Comments on: Top 100 Comic Book Battles: 80-76

By: latorture

latorture — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:18:13 +0000

nice nice... wait what about venom and the punisher in VENOM - funeral pyre #3 even if PYRE realy isent a great marvel character and not realy a super hero adding him would of been sweet cuz, in funeral pyre THE PUNISHER AND VENOM have a REAL REAL rough time beating PYRE... like pyre kicked the snot out of both ofem for like ever.... and best of all AFTER VENOM AND PUNISHER LEFT PYRE WAS NOT DEAD!!!! he was laughing, now thats somthing i cant get enough of....

By: danjack

danjack — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:42:34 +0000

Man, i have read that FF #352 issue several times. i always get confused by it, so i keep re-reading it. Ultimately, i did get it and it blew me away. i love the concept and having the cover be a part of the internal story is a great part of it. Normally, i don't like the cover to be a part of the internal story, but this was so kool that i had no problem with it. Also, the dialogue between Reed and Doom is great. Truly a great battle!

By: Trinten

Trinten — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:38:51 +0000

The Fury sounds alot like the Nimrod Sentinel. Adapts to new attacks/situations, and repairs itself each time it's damaged in a way that makes the attack ineffective.

By: Scott MacIver

Scott MacIver — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:32:25 +0000

I'm shocked that the Champion/Thing fight rated this low.

It's such a good single issue.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:49:04 +0000

Lord Paradise, it would have been cool to see what happened between the time Xavier went with the Shi'Ar and Nova's attack, but think of the dramatic impact it had without seeing the events in between. We see Xavier beamed up, knowing he is possessed by Cassandra, but not knowing what exactly will happen. A few issues later, we abruptly see Nova in full control with much of the Imperial Guard believing that mutants have a plague and must be exterminated. Since Nova is a telepathic we don't have to see her corrupt the Shi'Ar minds because we already knew she could do it, and much of what she did behind the scenes was outright said or implied anyway (like violating Lilandra). The only shame is that Grant didn't make the battle larger by including more Guardsmen and the other X-Men living in the mansion that he seldom acknowledged. Otherwise, epic story.

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:38:28 +0000

Marvel should do like they did for John Byrne's Fantastic Four and release the earlier stories of such runs in a Visionaires "volume 0" AFTER publishing the stuff the run is remembered for.

Note that the Thing story was copied almost verbatim for a Monkey cartoon (a Dexter's Lab spinoff).

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: James

James — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:10:28 +0000

Walt Simonson's run lasted for two more issues (up through #354). The final two tell a very funny story concerning the Time Variance Authority (a shadowy group of bureaucrats monitoring time misuse), whose leader seems to be modeled after writer Mark Gruenwald. Both are terrific and cap his work on the book perfectly. Another great thing about issue #352 - there are two stories that run parallel through the issue. There is the Reed/Doom fight through time, and then there's the other three members of the FF in Doom's castle, in "real" time. If you read the second story of Ben, Johnny and Sue conventionally from the start of the book to the end, Reed and Doom pop in and out, out of sequence of their fight. That's how I read the issue the first time, confused as to what the heck was going on until I figured out the time-code sequence for the Reed/Doom story.

By: phil from Germany

phil from Germany — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:57:20 +0000

For what reason was the Hulk barred from figthing the Champion?

By: Iron Maiden

Iron Maiden — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:58:52 +0000

Eeeks, wish you could edit these things. Meant to say that it isn't clear at what point Kristoff took Doom's place in the battle but he definitely took the hit from the TVA and was presumed dead. He got better though, in DeFalco's run.

By: Iron Maiden

Iron Maiden — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:56:30 +0000

I am glad that Timeslip battle from the FF made it.... Time magazine even wrote about it a while back in their "When the Fantastic Four Lived up to Their Name." I even pointed out the article to Simonson on another MB. http://www.time.com/time/columnist/arnold/article/0,9565,104312,00.html

Oh, and Reed didn't deck Doom. What happened was that at one point towards the end, Doom has his ward Kristoff was standing in for him and he's also the one that gets zapped by the TVA.

By: Jbird

Jbird — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:26:25 +0000

Just now re-reading that X-Men arc. It's so weird how writers are just now getting back around to where Morrison took things during his run - starting with Whedon, more or less.

By: Roman

Roman — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:54:44 +0000

Wow, I'm amazed other people actually voted for Simonson's FF! I think I had it at #4 or so, and I remember it mostly because Reed just decks Doom at the end, defeating him. Simonson really made Reed cool again, undoing all the damage Byrne had done.

By: GarBut

GarBut — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:15:31 +0000

The Champion: totally worth it. Look at 'im! And fair enough--I guess ma did actually raise me better, teaching me that the holidays really aren't about vulgar displays of power. Thx Brian,
G

By: Lord Paradise

Lord Paradise — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:01:15 +0000

I think most of the coolness of the Cassandra Nova fight was really the X-Men vs. Imperial Guard, and then Cassie taking down Gladiator.

I wish Morrison had shown us more of Nova and the Shi'Ar. We don't get to see anything between Nova-possessed Xavier being beamed up and the Empire is doomed so let's kill mutants cause they carry a plague okay now? Aside from that, excellent storyline.

By: Matt Bird

Matt Bird — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:38:45 +0000

Hey, there's my #1: Captain Britain. Given how hard it is to find that story here in the states, it's impressive that it finished as hight as it did. I get the feeling that everybody who had it on their list had it at #1. As well they should. I know that the Cassandra Nova story and the Thing story are favorites on this blog, but boy oh boy I'm not a fan of either. It's a shame that the Simonson Visionary Volumes didn't make it up to that story, but not surprising. Who is in charge of picking material for those things? Probably someone with severe OCD: The Simonson FF volumes are ruined by the fact that they felt obliged to include begin with some earlier clean-up issues he wrote and then some horrible Rich Buckler "Act of Vengeance" issues that Simonson barely contributed to. Why not just start with the good stuff after Simonson was doing the art and starting his own storyline? Likewise with the Roger Stern Spider-Man Visionary Volume. It feels compelled to begin with the PPTSSM stuff that's not very good. Why not skip to the beloved Romita Jr. ASM run? Unsurprising, they never even got to that stuff, presumably because anybody who bought the first volume must have wondered what all the fuss was about. You can just picture some super-nerd assistant editor stamping his feet and saying "NO! We have to be COMPLETE!"

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:19:47 +0000

Done, GarBut!

By: choirsoftheeye

choirsoftheeye — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:14:38 +0000

Wow, lot of Marvel on this list.

By: GarBut

GarBut — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:06:58 +0000

Can you PLEEZE post a picture of what The Champion looks like? Preferably taking one to the jaw courtesy of Aunt Petunia's fave nephew?

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:46:17 +0000

That's what I was thinking - that they didn't have the Timeslip battle.

Get on it, Marvel!!!

By: E.D.

E.D. — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:14:18 +0000

There're two "Fantastic Four Visionaries: Walter Simonson" trades, but they only cover up through #346.