Comments on: Top 100 Comic Book Battles: 75-71

By: Scavenger

Scavenger — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:49:13 +0000

“JLA/Avengers was surprisingly quality; exactly what you WOULDNâ€™T expect from such a crazed clusterfuck of characters.”

But exactly what you would expect if you get Busiek and Perez and say “go to it!”

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:22:57 +0000

That Batman Year One fight was my #2 vote. I’m really surprised it came in so low.

By: KMFPL

KMFPL — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:54:31 +0000

I had that JLA/Avengers battle in my Top Ten, and the one top image in an awesome battle is that pic of Superman holding Thor’s hammer and Cap’s Shield.

DC and Marvel just WISH that any of their Event books had climactic scenes half as good as that one…

By: sgt rawk

sgt rawk — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:26:41 +0000

I dunno … JLA/Avengers looked pretty and I’m sure Kracklin’ Kurt Busiek did his best but … aw, heck. It was fun. Sappy, stupid, sugary fun. It ain’t Pinter, it ain’t even David Mamet but it was fun.

But Cap vs Batman? And you cheated us? Come on. Cap woulda won. Hands down, even if Bats cheated, Cap woulda won. Cap never gives up. And Bruce doesn’t know what the Super-Soldier Serum is or can do.

And Superman was a dick in that book. So at least they got the characterization right.

By: Mullon

Mullon — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:32:17 +0000

I’m not sure the LoEG one really counts as a fight.

By: Ant

Ant — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:30:31 +0000

My personal favorite moment in the JLA/Avengers is when Batman and Cap square off and decide, without a single punch being thrown, that they are too evenly matched and a fight would be pointless.

By: P_B

P_B — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:49:35 +0000

Yeah, the reason there are multiple versions of the characters in that picture is because there are multiple versions of characters that actually appear in Fight #71.

By: Jbird

Jbird — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:44:34 +0000

My favorite moment in that Perez book is when someone shouts “Look out, Captain Marvel!”

And both of the competing properties are saved, issuing a simultaneous “Thanks!”. It’s this great little soccer in the trenches on Christmas Eve moment.

JLA/Avengers was surprisingly quality; exactly what you WOULDN’T expect from such a crazed clusterfuck of characters.

By: Matt D

Matt D — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:05:13 +0000

I’m going to bet that there was more sheer thought put into the Sacrifice fight than any other fight on this entire list, for good or ill. I saw Rucka talk about it at a con once. One of those panels I wish was recorded. Ah well.

By: scott

scott — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:02:26 +0000

Oh, hey, what about Krona v. Galactus? For that matter, Darkseid v. Galactus in The Hunger was pretty insane.

By: Beta Ray Steve

Beta Ray Steve — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:10:48 +0000

I cannot understand why DC doesn’t give Perez and Busiek the JLA for a good, long run. I can’t remember the last team that went for just one year on JLA.

By: Ethan Shuster

Ethan Shuster — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:12:44 +0000

Ah, nothing like a giant Perez group shot!

Also, I never realized that the Batman Begins “swarm of bats” routine showed up in Year One. Though I have heard that the movie was somewhat inspired by the story.

By: Joey

Joey — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:09:15 +0000

Nevermind I see him. Aztek is at 1 O Clock from thing. Then the Clock King at 5 O Clock from him. At 7 O Clock is the guy you are talking about.

By: Joey

Joey — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:05:18 +0000

Brian Mac, I think that is Clock King from Justice League Antarctica.

By: Matt Bird

Matt Bird — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:00:59 +0000

I had never heard anybody praise that JLA/ Avengers book, but when the trade was re-published a few weeks ago, I picked it up and read it– and wow! It’s fantastic! It’s so good at mining all the elements that are most FUN from the histories of both teams. I’m glad to see it getting some praise here.

It’s funny how much both teams have changed in the few short years since it was published, and not for the better. In some ways, the book becomes a tribute to the end of two eras of greatness, and who better to draw such a valediction than Perez, who has a strong history with both teams. And he really goes all out.

That Batman Year One fight is so great as well. It’s become very knee-jerk to call Miller a fascist, but that story is greatly enriched by Batman’s compassion for the homeless who are callously endangered by the cops. Miller’s work, at least at the time, was not easy to nail down politically one way or the other.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:20:00 +0000

You know, i’ve seen that image of the cover JLA/Avengers a bunch of times before, and this is the first time that i notice Sandman (Marvel) is the ground that the top row of heroes is standing on.

By: Brian Mac

Brian Mac — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:05:39 +0000

Holy cow, not only do we get to stare at that awesome bit of Perez art, but Kurt Busiek himself turns up to explain it. (I figured that Eric Masterson was the answer to the multiple Thors.)

Hey, is that Retro I see in there? About 1:00, just in front of the Thing, being held up by Justice’s TK field, blond guy, green cape? Wow, that’s really including everybody…poor guy died before he even joined the JLA.

This book is on my Christmas list; if I don’t get it, I’ll definitely pick it up before New Years.

By: Ortiz

Ortiz — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:56:53 +0000

JLA/Avengers is not just one of the best crossovers in history, is one of the best minis, I’ve re-read it several times, the final fight is incredible, when Captain America is leading the combined team with telepathic orders, thanks to the Martian, an almost in every panel the team changes, but Cap is capable to do it perfectly. Oh man, I think I’m gonna read it again. Peace.

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:02:27 +0000

I’ve read four out of five of those. And nothing says “kick-ass” than random Leaguers and Avengers popping in and out of a battle against an army of villains and henchmen organizations. Also: Batroc getting a kick in on Batman and Superman going electric for a few panels.

By: Lord Paradise

Lord Paradise — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:44:41 +0000

The League vs. Martians was great, but not a “fight” in the way I would qualify.

=XD <<<< Two smiley faces squished together, or just Choronzon reacting to that scene with all the blood?