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Vote for the Top 25 “Versus” Countdown!

The Top 100 Comic Book Battles Countdown was a blast, but you know what, looking at the Top 25, I noticed that the list did not have a single battle between the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom, the X-Men and Magneto, Batman and the Joker, Superman and Lex Luthor or Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus.

That’s probably because those characters have SO many good fights that they all split the vote (I know that happened with the two notable Wolverine and Sabretooth fights).

But these are the rivalries that everyone knows! These are the rivalries that keep people coming back for more! These are the rivalries that film franchises are built upon!

So I’ve decided to have a new countdown of just the Top rivalries that you folks like to see repeatedly – who do you like to see fight the most? Spider-Man and Green Goblin? Hulk and Wolverine? Batman and Joker? The Fantastic Four and Dr. Doom? Superman and Batman?

Vote for your top 10 top (and by top, I mean your favorite) comic book rivalries by 11:59 Eastern on January 21st, and we’ll reveal the Top 25 in a special feature on CBR soon after (and a little bit later, I’ll fill in the rest of the Top 100).

Simply list your top ten (and please pick 10 – less than ten and I won’t count any of your votes) from your top choice to your bottom choice, in the comments below (please include the word ACBC in the comment, that way your ballot will appear invisible to other readers).

Your top choice will be given 10 points, your second choice 9, etc.

Here are the following guidelines:

1. Vote for a specific rivalry from a comic book.

2. The match-up has to have occurred at least twice – so Hulk and Thor is okay, but not, say, Superman versus Thor – this list is for the fights that keep coming up over and over again because the fans keep clamoring for them! This is to celebrate Rogues Galleries (as well as those hero fights that are so fun to see, like Hulk versus Thing and Superman versus Batman).

3. List ten choices.

4. Remember, please include the following word: ACBC – on your ballot. It will make it so your ballot appears invisible to other readers, so only I can read it (and count your vote secretly).

Most importantly, have fun!

Now vote! :)

77 Comments

wasn’t maestro send back to real time in the main series after future imperfect so there were two match ups, more is you include brain fights

Speaking of these countdowns:

I am currently using the ‘greatest runs’ list to build up my comic library and I wodnered if we had done one for limited series and I had just forgotten.

I’d love to see one of these for limited series. Except I think we all know what the number 1 would be. Not a reason not to do it but still.

I’m guessing that a lot of people will shy away from the big rivalries, as many of them can feel a little played out, and aren’t held as dearly as they might have previously been.

I expect this top 25 to be quite eclectic.

I tend to agree. Since this is subjective, it’s really easy to feel like Batman vs, Joker is played out and leave it out.

I think I’m also going to have a lot more in the way of what interests me now as opposed to all-time favorites. Right now Stark (or Fury) vs. Osborn and Hercules vs. Ares are more interesting to me than… I don’t know Spider-Man vs Green Goblin and Thor vs Loki.

This is the toughest one yet. I’m not going to let the “played out” factor sway me. Just because there have been a bunch of crappy Batman vs Joker stories doesn’t mean I’m not always eager for another good one.

And I’m reminded of the time a letter writer complained about the “played out” Orion vs Darkseid fight and Walt Simonson rather pointedly pointed out that it was the first timed they’d fought.

Technical question: Does the antagonist have to be a person? Could someone vote for Superman vs Natural Disasters? Soldiers vs Dinosaurs?

Also: Is a vote for Superman vs Batman the same as a vote for Batman vs Superman?

Seriously.

Can we have a broad one like:
“One person takes on an entire team and wins in less than two pages”?

I can think of a few of those, but each only occured once… e.g. Kev vs. the Authority, Batman vs the rest of the JLA, Deathstroke vs. JLA…

WHOO SPIDER-MAN VERSUS THE SHOCKER

I think one of the problems with this is it does get teidious when the FF has beaten Doom for the 50th time. I love it when they end up fighting other heroes. Lex has gone against Batman a few times, and those stories were a little bit more interesting.

I’m voting under the assumption that licensed comics that were self-contained and separate from other versions of the properties (most notably Transformers and GIJoe) are permissible.

Also, I’m assuming any votes involving Stegron the Dinosaur Man will be thrown out, since we all know already that he is the greatest foe in any comics universe. =)

I’m going to say “no” to fights against stuff like “Depression” “Natural Disasters” “Bruce Banner vs. his Purple Pants” etc.

But otherwise, yeah, all comic books, even licensed ones, count.

Snake-Eyes vs. Storm Shadow is fine.

And it doesn’t have to be superheroes!

Jesse Custer vs. the Grail, for instance, would be a good one.

Lord Paradise, that’s one of my votes too!
Shocker rules!

“Paste is the ULTIMATE weapon!”

the villain former known as Paste-Pot-Pete

My favourite match-ups have been teams against their greatest foes. eg Avengers vs. Ultron mainly because
each time there will be different players in the mix to keep the re-match interesting . ” How will this team beat Dr.X ?”
A shame it couldn’t be top 15 picks. Well next time Flash vs. Gorilla Grodd and Capt.Marvel vs. Black Adam

You know, as a Flash fan, I’m surprised there weren’t that many classic one on one battles with my all time favorite villain Captain Cold. If any, his best one-on-one match ups were with either Zoom or Grodd. With The Reverse Flash, it’s legacy vs legacy. And it’s quite personal. Professor Zoom killed Barry’s wife and Zoom killed Wally’s kids. Both murders were eventually undone though.

The best Flash vs Grodd fight in recent memory was the one back in 2001 when Grodd hurled a car at some college kids through an apartment!

Wolverine vs The Hulk never gets OLD!

Damn!

RIVALRIES!!!

Why didn’t I think of that term!?!? That describes this a whole lot better than “match-ups”!

Thanks for the link, stealthwise! I’ll use that term when I discuss this in the future!

And sure, I’d imagine that most of those would be in the Top 25 – a lot of the match-ups are pretty clear – it’s just a matter of who ranks where that is the fun of it all (plus surprises, of course)!

Submitted for your approval, to my left, wearing assorted insectoid bits, one Mister Anton Arcane.
And to my right, wearing mossy green, a muck-encrusted mockery of a man.

They were born to rumble.

Grendel vs Argent!!!!

Is there any chance we could get the number of points and first place votes each rivalry gets? I liked that about the top 100 comics list, but it was absent from the top battles.

Also, The Great Machine vs. Jack Pherson.
It’ll never make the top 25, it just might have a chance at the top 100.

I’m curious to see which will rank higher, Batman/Superman or Batman/Joker.

Can we post our top ten here with comments as well as submitting them to the vote?

Can we post our top ten here with comments as well as submitting them to the vote?

Nah, keep the ballots secret, please!

I agree. Secret ballots are more fun.

I will say that my #11 was Captain America vs Nazi Sleeper Robots.

Brian,

my votes are still up on the comments.

I get that you are saying no to things like Batman vs. natural disasters.

But, what about something ike Juggernaut vs. telepaths? I loved how Juggernaut, who was never portrayed as all that brilliant, continued to update and evolve his equipment and style in order to combat his main weakness: telepathy. Could also apply to Captain American vs. the US government.

Or, what about inanimates, like Silver Age Superman vs. random kryptonite mcguffin?

Theno

Hey, what about the Hulk vs. Bruce Banner? I can’t think of a specific great “fight” between them, but the rivalry has been a fundamental part of the comic since day one.

Tom Fitzpatrick

January 9, 2009 at 3:59 pm

I would think that the MOTHER of ALL rivalries regarding Comic books would BE:

WB vs FOX over the WATCHMEN movie.

;-)

Nah… Alan Moore vs. DC ;-)

Batman versus The Joker
Spider-Man versus Doctor Octopus

Nick Fury vs. Marvel Universe haha

I’m so, so sad I forgot to put Black Bolt vs Maximus on my list.

People, don’t make the same mistake I did! :(

nothing more tense than a good winter soldier/captain america tale.

WOAH!
TONY STARK vs. BOOZE!!!

Tom Fitzpatrick

January 11, 2009 at 2:26 pm

The Minutemen vs. The Trust.

No way could I be arsed coming up with ten of these, if not just on ideological grounds – the notion that comicbooks are just extended fight scenes between superheroes is part of the reason people keep portraying comic fans as autistic weirdoes.

ahh…Superman v. Kryptonite, i totally should have put that.

Also — Spidey v. JJJ. Negligent omission.

In terms of “friendly” rivalries, Wolverin Vs Cyclops never gets old for me.

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John Byrne versus Jim Shooter.

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You can laugh now.

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Jack Kirby and Joe Simon versus Stan Lee and Uncle Marty Goodman.

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Rob Liefeld versus…..THE WORLD!!

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Don’t you think it’s ODD the words ROB and LIE are the key parts of his name?

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When I did my list I put a 10 in front of my top choice and went backwards to one so that when the votes were counted it would be easier to see who should get the 10 points. But looking at everyone else’s list I wonder if I did this completely wrong.

When I did my list I put a 10 in front of my top choice and went backwards to one so that when the votes were counted it would be easier to see who should get the 10 points. But looking at everyone else’s list I wonder if I did this completely wrong.

Yeah, but it’s okay, now I know, I will edit it so I know what you mean! :)

Tom Fitzpatrick

January 12, 2009 at 6:21 am

How about Neil Gaiman vs Todd McFarlane over Miracleman?

Wouldn’t it be more interesting to read about the top comic book creator rivalries? Like Todd McFarlane vs. Neil Gaiman…

John Byrne vs. Everyone

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Sweet Victory! I started a TREND.

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jean grey vs. emma frost.

“No way could I be arsed coming up with ten of these, if not just on ideological grounds – the notion that comicbooks are just extended fight scenes between superheroes is part of the reason people keep portraying comic fans as autistic weirdoes.

So, then don’t vote for extended slugfests. Vote for rivalries that aren’t physical. One of mine is Kingpin vs The Rose, because they fought by moving pawns and by tricking Spider-Man and Daredevil into doing their work for them.

Another one on my list is Betty vs Veronica. A more classic feud in comic books you aren’t likely to find.

I agree that there is more to comic books than people in fancy costumes punching each other. Help prove it by voting for the rivalries you enjoyed.

Theno

Wolverine Vs Sabretooth

The Thing vs. The Hulk
Drax vs. Thanos

I like the tragic ones.

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Good, clean common sense versus Bad-Writer Bob Harras.

Teen-age Tony Stark? “Plotting” X-Men with “dialogue writers”? The Who-Cares Avengers? The Red-What’s-His-Name Thor?

THAT’S what I’m talking about.

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my vote goes to the punisher and lex luthor. The reason is you never see them in the same room together. They must hate each other!!!

Erik Larsen vs Marvel! That’s right, I said it. And it’s true!!!

Also, Spiderman vs Green Goblin, and New Genisis vs Darkseid

Gambit vs. Wolverine

Awesome, awesome war of words, wits and brawn.

Even the Ultimate X-Men fight was awesome.

Image Comics vs. release dates
Superheroes vs. staying dead
Brian Michael Bendis vs. text bubbles
Rob Liefield vs. feet and hands
Grant Morrison vs. coherent crossover events
Marvel Comics vs. light-hearted heroic themes
DC Comics vs. strong movie franchises (Batman excluded)
Frank Miller vs. stories without testosterone
The comic book industry vs. digital comics
Chris Claremont vs. mutant stories that don’t involve time travel

Batman vs. The Joker

Doesn’t get better than that.

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I second that emotion:

Image Comics vs. release dates
Superheroes vs. staying dead
Brian Michael Bendis vs. text bubbles
Rob Liefield vs. feet and hands
Grant Morrison vs. coherent crossover events
Marvel Comics vs. light-hearted heroic themes
DC Comics vs. strong movie franchises (Batman excluded)
Frank Miller vs. stories without testosterone
The comic book industry vs. digital comics
Chris Claremont vs. mutant stories that don’t involve time travel

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Batman Vs. Darkseid… there’s 2 I’ve seen now, so does that count? hehe…

wacker vs larsen

Force of July vs The Outsiders. Cringe in fear!

The biggest challenge is not when the heroes face off against their evil counterparts, but when we try to justify how their powers could function in the real world. This is the reason I invoke a “one time miracle exception” to the laws of nature when describing the science behind these heroes (in my book The Physics of Superheroes – who says this isn’t the Marvel age of shameless plugs?). So, my list would include:

Flash vs. Conservation of Energy
Cyclops vs. Conservation of Momentum
Hulk vs. Tensile Strength of Pants
Prof. X vs. Decay Range of Electromagnetic Waves
Spider-Man vs. Radiation Poisoning
Ant-Man vs. Conservation of Matter
Sub-Mariner vs. Aerodynamic Lift (ankle wings? really?)
Human Top vs. Conservation of Angular Momentum
Black Bolt vs. Pressure Waves
and
Silver Age Superman vs. Reality

Of course, I am more than willing to suspend my disbelief for each and every one of these heroes. For all they have done for us – it’s the least we can do!

Vic Chalker vs Name Withheld

;-)

Theno

spider man vs synister syndicate

Lobo vs Guy Gardiner
Miracleman v Kid Miracleman

ACBC

1. Batman vs. The Joker
2. Spider-Man vs. Green Goblin
3. X-Men vs. Magneto
4. Daredevil vs. Kingpin
5. Superman vs. Lex Luthor
6. Fantastic Four vs. Dr. Doom
7. Hulk vs. Thing
8. Teen Titans vs. Deathstroke
9. Captain America vs. Iron Man
10. Flash vs. Zoom

Cap v. Red Skull
Flash v. Rogues
Spidey v. Venom
Avengers v. Masters of Evil
Shang Chi v. Fu Manchu
FF v. Skrulls
Gl v. Sinestro
Bats v. Joker

“I’m going to say “no” to fights against stuff like “Depression” “Natural Disasters” “Bruce Banner vs. his Purple Pants” etc.”

That’s a bummer. I still say Tony Stark vs. Jack Daniels is one of comics best rivalries and one of it’s greatest storylines.

[…] Comic Book Resources is putting together a list of the top 25 comic book rivalries of all time and the voting is open to the public. Here are some of the details from CBR: […]

Silver Surfer vs. Mephisto
Hulk vs. Thing
Thanos vs. Life (the universe)
Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
Magneto vs. Prof. X
Spidey vs. Green Goblin
Avengers vs. Ultron
Hulk vs. The Leader
Thor vs. Loki
FF vs. Dr. Doom

ACDC-3rd time of trying
Flash v Rogues
Flash v Prof.Zoom(Thorne)
Serpent Society v.Capt.America
Gentleman Ghost v.Hawkman
Secret Society of Super Villains v.J.L.A.
Masters of Evil v.Avengers
Thing v.Hulk
Scorpion v.Spiderman
Aliens v.Predators
Daffy Duck v.Elmer Fudd

Superman vs Everyone(‘s Favorite Character)

Let’s face it, Superman is the baseline. And people love to say that their favorite character or villain could beat him up. Who’s stronger, Superman or Hulk? Who’s faster, Superman or Flash? Who’s smarter, Superman or Batman? He’s the best, the original, so if your guy can beat him up, well then he must really be something… right?

Is this list still going to happen? It sounded like a lot of fun!

Can someone point me in the direction of the master list for the top comic book rivalries, please?

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