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Thank You, DC, for the Final Crisis HC
I have to give DC Comics a lot of credit. They made what I (and many other people, including the writer of the comic himself) felt was a bad decision when they announced that the Final Crisis hardcover would not include the Superman: Beyond two-parter that ended up being almost absolutely essential to the final story (not absolutely essential, but close to it).
They have now fixed their original mistake, and the Final Crisis hardcover WILL include the Superman: Beyond two-parter AND the Final Crisis: Submit one-shot. The only part missing now is the Last Rites Batman two-parter, and that's far from essential reading (and it was already reprinted in the Batman R.I.P. hardcover)
Congratulations, DC! You did done good.
Tip of the hat to Rohan Williams.
- Posted on February 17, 2009 @ 09:28 PM






38 Comments
Rohan Williams
February 17, 2009 at 9:36 pm
It's a very cool move on DC's part. I actually wasn't going to buy the Hardcover before (by leaving out S:B and Submit, it's like they were flagging an Absolute edition), but it's a must-have now, isn't it?
Andrew Collins
February 17, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Any word on the price now that it's grown by around 100 pages?
chad
February 17, 2009 at 10:21 pm
glad Dc fixed their mistake. otherwise they would have had the crisis hardcover would up gathering dust because fans got cheated out a key part the superman story.good for dc
Jbird
February 17, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Good, because it would have been incredibly stupid for them to do otherwise. Imagine picking up that trade as someone in five years who'd never read this event and trying to figure out what the hell was going on during the last half of the last book.
Bill Reed
February 17, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Awesome! I have all the singles. But awesome!
Generalzod33
February 17, 2009 at 11:13 pm
It's not a "mistake" unless its already occurred. So it SHOULD read "glad DC fixed WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN a mistake"...
Brian Cronin
February 17, 2009 at 11:18 pm
They solicited the first version.
Heck, the first version is still the version listed on their own website.
That was a mistake.
They corrected it thankfully, which is a great move by DC.
Cove West
February 17, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Unfortunately, now that they're offering the complete FINAL CRISIS experience, DC is now going to be charging readers the experience of a complete final crisis: $85,271.00 (plus tax), your left eyeball (for the 3-D, you understand), and supplementary annotations that can only be revealed after Grant Morrison has a threesome with your wife's skull and a cartoon coyote. And now all copies come with the final nine pages ripped out and replaced with a life-sized foldout advertisement for FINAL CRISIS: SECRET ENDING -- THE SEARCH FOR MORE MONEY ("coming soon, June 2003!").
Still, good on DC for some common sense on this.
Kelson
February 18, 2009 at 12:55 am
This is a very good move! I'd noticed that Submit was no longer in the Companion book, but hadn't gotten around to checking the FC collection to see if it had been put there.
Anonymous
February 18, 2009 at 2:06 am
Now all they need to do is fix the OMAC Project TPB
Tom Fitzpatrick
February 18, 2009 at 4:05 am
(cough)capitalists(cough)
joshschr
February 18, 2009 at 6:55 am
Will it come with 3d glasses?
Alonso
February 18, 2009 at 6:58 am
Glad to hear this. I was a bit miffed at this. I really enjoyed FC and wanted to be able to enjoy the collected edition as well. Now I can.
Has DC really done something right?
Sat
February 18, 2009 at 7:14 am
this is fantastic news, but will SB still be in 3D?
Greg Burgas
February 18, 2009 at 7:17 am
Considering that the Big Bad Guy that showed up at the end of Final Crisis was only seen prior to that in Superman: Beyond, I'd say it's not "almost" absolutely essential, it's absolutely essential, no almost about it.
DubipR
February 18, 2009 at 7:55 am
While I applaud DC for get this out fast, I hope they give me the 'real' Final Crisis HC, the one that Morrison told us to read the series (incl. Submit, Superman Beyond, and Last Rites).
Carl
February 18, 2009 at 7:55 am
So now will they publish an edition of The OMAC Project that includes Sacrifice?
Sluggo
February 18, 2009 at 8:25 am
What's the source for this? I see the listing on Amazon has upped the page count and the price by five bucks, but there are no details about what exactly is collected. And has been mentioned, DC's website still has the old version.
Also, I read a few issues of Grant Morrison's Batman run in the beginning, but lost interest. I'm thinking of picking up the RIP HC. Will I be completely lost or can I just jump in there?
Lynxara
February 18, 2009 at 9:19 am
The only Morrison bat-story that struck me as required reading for R.I.P. was Club of Heroes, which is also quite good. It helps to generally understand who Talia and Damian are, too, but if you're on the comics internet that's probably not an issue. Some people point to Batman 666 as necessary to "getting" the ending, but that involves a reading of it that I personally don't find convincing.
MarkAndrew
February 18, 2009 at 9:44 am
So now I'll definitely get this out of the library.
An' what was wrong with the Omac trade?
Paperghost
February 18, 2009 at 9:45 am
I'm still not sure how Last Rites isn't essential to the HC - without it, Batman is just suddenly running around with a gun with no indication whatsoever as to how he escaped in the first place. I thought the Last Rites story was a real good one and really drove home the struggle of his eventual escape - a real shame if its missing.
DubipR
February 18, 2009 at 9:52 am
Paperghost writes:
"I’m still not sure how Last Rites isn’t essential to the HC - without it, Batman is just suddenly running around with a gun with no indication whatsoever as to how he escaped in the first place. I thought the Last Rites story was a real good one and really drove home the struggle of his eventual escape - a real shame if its missing."
Last Rites falls inbetween Final Crisis 5 and 6, telling what happened between Batman's capture. It fits perfectly in there. Read FC in the order Grant told you to and the story unfolds better than you'll ever imagine!
Lynxara
February 18, 2009 at 9:57 am
I also have to say that if you've read Last Rites and know what Batman went through before he confronted Darkseid, it makes a lot more sense that the gun control superhero was willing to just shoot the guy. I get the feeling DC wants everybody who wants those issues to run out and buy the R.I.P collection, though...
Paperghost
February 18, 2009 at 10:34 am
"Last Rites falls inbetween Final Crisis 5 and 6, telling what happened between Batman’s capture. It fits perfectly in there. Read FC in the order Grant told you to and the story unfolds better than you’ll ever imagine!"
Uh.....yeah, I know that, hence "really drove home the struggle of his escape". My whole point was that it *needs* to be in the HC or else batman running round with a gun makes no sense.
Scud the disposable assassin
February 18, 2009 at 11:16 am
My question is what order are they going to print them in? You cant put SB at the end, i guess they would just splice it into the middle somewhere.
E.D.
February 18, 2009 at 11:56 am
It really should've included the Superman issues that fall between OMAC PROJECT #3 and OMAC PROJECT #4.
They wouldn't have made it any better, but they would've made it a little more comprehensible.
Lynxara
February 18, 2009 at 12:03 pm
@Scud:
Grant Morrison has mentioned an intended reading order for all of the Final Crisis stuff he wrote in interviews. If DC's smart, they'll collect the stories in the FC hardcover according to that. I believe the Morrison reading order would put Superman Beyond 3D between two issues of the main FC series, fairly early on.
Blackjak
February 19, 2009 at 7:18 am
OK. I have to ask.. Where can I find the intended reading order? I've got all the singles (inc. Last Rites) and was planning on re-reading the whole lot in one swoop this weekend.. (though I was also going to include Requiem and Resist...)
Anybody?
Lynxara
February 19, 2009 at 7:57 am
FINAL CRISIS # 1- 3
SUPERMAN BEYOND # 1- 2
SUBMIT
FINAL CRISIS # 4 – 5
BATMAN #682 – 683
FINAL CRISIS # 6 – 7
From http://www.newsarama.com/comics/010928-Grant-Final-Crisis.html
Blackjak
February 19, 2009 at 9:36 am
Brilliant!
Thanks Lynxara!
Sluggo
February 19, 2009 at 9:56 am
Again, what's the source for this? I still haven't seen anything official, so do we really know anything concrete yet?
Brian Cronin
February 19, 2009 at 10:01 am
As you mentioned, the page count went up by the page-count of SB #1-2 and Submit (and the price went up five bucks) while DC just re-solicited the Final Crisis Companion with SB #1-2 and Submit removed.
Res ipsa loquitur.
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Sluggo
February 19, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Well, I'll feel a whole lot more comfortable pre-ordering the hardcover once I know for sure this is what's happening. DC needs to do a press release changing the solicitation to clarify. Until then, it's just supposition and conjecture.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
February 19, 2009 at 5:48 pm
You were going to order it anyway...
Sluggo
February 19, 2009 at 7:48 pm
No, actually, I wasn't. I had decided not to, but knowing that the complete story might be collected in the book has rekindled my interest.
But thanks for playing.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
February 19, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Yes you were.
You wanna play it cool now, but your life would be empty without it.
You should just marry it already.
On a different note, am I going to understand my Batman RIP 'Deluxe Edition' (???) without Final Crisis?
Sluggo
February 19, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I already did marry it. It was a small ceremony. Just friends and family. And Bat-Mite.