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I’d Have Had Salvation Run Tie Into Final Crisis
Or at least some other storyline.
Because otherwise, what an odd little story in the middle of nowhere (“The villains all go on to a prison planet for….some reason. Then we never speak of it again!”).
Matt Sturges and Bill Willingham, respectively, did what they could with it, but boy, it was a bit like being cast into the wild to fend for yourselves. I would have reined it in a bit.






17 Comments
stealthwise
March 15, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Much like most people, I never read it, but it sounded kind of like Secret Wars minus the heroes.
jazzbo
March 15, 2009 at 12:10 pm
It kind of tied into FC, didn’t it? Isn’t Salvation Run where the villains take Martian Manhunter captive, which then leads into FC #1? I didn’t read any of FC after the first issue, so maybe I missed something that explained that wasn’t the case.
Michael Rawdon
March 15, 2009 at 12:13 pm
And how about Death of the New Gods? It was better (much better!) than Final Crisis, but seemed to have no relationship to it.
Brian Cronin
March 15, 2009 at 12:14 pm
At some point in the story, they do capture him, but he escapes by the end.
So no, it doesn’t even tie in with that really. It’s just not connected to anything. It’s so weird.
Dick Lindsay
March 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I thought he was left weakened on the salvation run planet and that was how he was eventually captured. I seem to remember him being boom tubed back from there at the end of the issue of JLA with Libra and the human flame in it but I could be wrong.
Brian Cronin
March 15, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Yeah, he was left weakened at the end of Salvation Run.
But by himself.
They needed an issue of JLA to explain how he got from Salvation Run to Final Crisis #1.
Smug19
March 15, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Wait a sec.
Batman made a reference about Salvation Run in Final Crisis issue 2
So it is tied together somehow……………………..
Dick Lindsay
March 15, 2009 at 12:55 pm
True, does it count as a tie in if it’s a strongly related tie in to an (unofficial?) tie in? I guess not
Wasn’t the villan protest in final crisis #1 also somewhat of a reaction to salvation run? I can’t really remember.
chad
March 15, 2009 at 1:19 pm
actulley Martin Man hunterunder batman’s orders was posing as Blockbuster and got betrayed by Cat woman during the story. and the only way it could be a fc tie in is if Dark siede made the planet his first target and so the villians had to team up for a crisis makes the villians of the dcu a force to be feared
Blackjak
March 15, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Absolutely agree with you, Brian. Instead of tying Checkmate, Suicide Squad, Catwoman and a whole bunch of others into Final Crisis… they just sort of… I dunno really…
Heck, they were ALMOST going to tie it in using JLA, but suddenly jerked us out into some lame issue which sort of explained why they wouldn’t tie-in…
Dick Lindsay
March 15, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I think it’s a good job they didn’t tie everything in to final crisis. Love it or hate it I’d find it hard to argue anybody really had thier finger on the pulse of final crisis, even the tie in books that did exist didn’t seem to paint a consistent picture of what was going down. Factor in the delays FC saw and I think it was probably a wise move on DCs part.
Omar Karindu, back from an Internet Thogal ritual
March 15, 2009 at 3:11 pm
It ties in painfully vaguely in that Darkseid is manipulating the Salcvation Run experiment and the villains, resulting in their feuds playing out and something like the Society re-forming at the end. Then Libra can come in and take that revitalized group over.
Of course, it would have made more sense to simply take the Society’s existence in some form for granted and not waste everyone’s time with a miniseries, but there you are.
Axel M. Gruner
March 15, 2009 at 5:16 pm
But it had agreat Dylan quote!
Jason B.
March 15, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Boy, remember when that one guy said that ‘Salvation Run’ was better than ‘Final Crisis’? That sure was crazy.
Brian Cronin
March 15, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Wait, you saw that, too?
I thought I just hallucinated that.
HammerHeart
March 16, 2009 at 11:29 am
“Salvation Run” was extremely fun IMO. I greatly enjoyed it, unburdened by minor concerns such as “continuity”. Nowadays continuity is an anvil tied around the writers’ and readers’ necks, and I applaud any series that utterly ignores continuity in favor of telling a fun story. “Salvation Run” was one such series.
Lynxara
March 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Here’s hoping Salvation Run is generally being perceived as out-of-continuity now. I recall quite a few villains who still had plenty of storytelling potential dying rather gruesomely in it, and not for any clear story-enhancing reason.