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I’d Have Rogue Re-Join the X-Men

It’s so odd to me that Rogue is not on the X-Men. She’s one of the most famous members of the team, the team does not exactly have a ton of famous female members left (basically Storm and Emma Frost), so why keep off Rogue, who is a good character, to boot!

So I’d put Rogue back on the X-Men.

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I agree. I want my Southern Belle back!

How about we have:

Wolverine
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Storm
Rogue
Iceman
Beast
Angel
Gambit
Professor X

And JUST THEM on a team? I think it could work. Just all the famous ones.

Rogue isn’t on the X-Men?

The problem with Rogue is that she’s suffering from Cypher syndrome. Without the Ms. Marvel powers, (and with the Sunfire powers forgotten about because it was abhorred by fans) Rogue has honestly become difficult to write into fights which are still a major part of X-Men comics. I’d be interested if Carey has her do anything but be a foil for Gambit or Mystique in the coming year, without attempting to change her status quo.

If I could add my own I’d of March, I’d have Rogue absorb M’s powers to get her back onto the field, and to give M something to do outside of being snarky.

Rogue isn’t on the X-Men?

Weird, right?

She should return…I’m sick of Emma and Storm’s barely there

“The problem with Rogue is that she’s suffering from Cypher syndrome. Without the Ms. Marvel powers, (and with the Sunfire powers forgotten about because it was abhorred by fans) Rogue has honestly become difficult to write into fights which are still a major part of X-Men comics”

Yeah, pretty much. I also think that, while being great on the beginning, I think Mike Carey ended up damaging the character more than he helped. She hasn’t done anything in nearly two years, and now is away from the X-men, so she can’t do anything even if other writers want to.

It seems like once the current arc of X-Men Legacy is over, Carey will be reconfiguring the concept of the book, and there’s a pretty good possibility that the series will take on a Rogue-centric focus for the new incarnation.

I think Rogue fell by the wayside when she lost her Southern punkgrrl spunk and toughness from the Smith, JR JR and Silvestri days and under Lee in the 90s became this kind of Southern debutante Playboy pinup girl primping and pining over cheeseball Gambit and just acting really inconsistent and really girly. I lost interest in her after she became joined at the hip with Gambit storywise. For a while every story seemed to be her being caught between Gambit and Mystique and her self-pity. Now on top of everything else I never seem to know what her powers are.

I half figured that Rogue/Gambit would be the new premise for the book that is currently Legacy. But that’s just a gut feeling and to be honest, I was really surprised when the start of their storyline didn’t have a sales bump.

Rogue/Gambit fans are incredibly loud about the fact they’re Rogue/Gambit fans. Apparently that does not translate into sales, though.

Okay, I like the theme of this series of posts. Very appropriate.

i would love Rogue back on the team for just Emma as the only female around now the x_men need some balance as for her ever getting the powers of ms. Marvel back she could always cross paths and steal them again.

Rogue’s character got pretty much ruined once she got turned into “Gambit’s girlfriend” in the 90s. It would be nice if Brubaker or Fraction could rehabilitate her ,though.

… wait, if Rogue isn’t on the X-Men, what is doing? Slumming it with a B-list team or just kind of floating around in continuity limbo?

Carey is doing some solo stuff with her in X-Men Legacy.

I’m sure she’ll be back in the X-Men within the next 6 months. The character was tremendously damaged during the ’90s and Mike Carey’s been fixing that, albeit slowly, for the last few years. In a few months his storyline with her comes to its conclusion and I’m sure she’ll be right on over to San Francisco after that.

So you’d like Rogue to stop being featured in Legacy so she can stand in the background of Uncanny?

That clearly must be the only reading of what I wrote, so I guess yes.

Hey, at least they haven’t made her an Avenger…

Put Rogue on the X-men, and Claremont on the X-men, and John Romita Jr and Dan Green for artwork on the X-men, and I’d be reading it.

Actually, I’d love to see Rogue on the Avengers…

Rogue needs to get some good powers. I would say have her drain Ms. Marvel again, but Bendis has somehow done the impossible and made me interested in her. Maybe The Sentry?

I think Rogue fell by the wayside when she lost her Southern punkgrrl spunk and toughness from the Smith, JR JR and Silvestri days and under Lee in the 90s became this kind of Southern debutante Playboy pinup girl primping and pining over cheeseball Gambit and just acting really inconsistent and really girly. I lost interest in her after she became joined at the hip with Gambit storywise.

I think you pretty much summed it up there. She became a pin-up sexpot, dressing up in ridiculous Daisy Duke-via-porn outifts because it fit the artist’s idea of ‘southern girl’ along with the ‘all women in comics must look and act like Playboy Bunnies!!” sensibillities of the 90′s.

I don’t think anyone suffered as much under that as Rogue. (Possible exception being Psylocke who became Ms Crotchshotty McButtfloss in those days)

]For a while every story seemed to be her being caught between Gambit and Mystique and her self-pity. Now on top of everything else I never seem to know what her powers are

Sadly I agree with that as well. Mike Carey started out great (and I don’t blame him for the delays, since that was obviously not his choice) but now once again, a Rogue story is steeped into those same three elements again: Self pity, Gambit, and Mystique. Frankly the Mystique part bugs me the most. (Evil mommy issues. I GOT it already!) And the notion that she might let Raven’s personality take over fills me with some dread in terms of Mike’s promised ‘new direction’.

Eh. Never cared for her; she was never much more than either a punching bag for Danvers or a bad accent joined at the hip with an even worse one. Far as adding another female to the cast, better someone rescue Kitty Pryde from that incredibly passive-aggressive status quo Whedon left her at the end of his ASTONISHING run. I mean, seriously, not one of the big brains gathered at the end of that arc even bothered to check on her…?

Rogue’s never been all that important to me.
I remember when the first movie came out, a friend’s girlfriend complained that there was nothing about Rogue’s relationship with Mystique, and that the characters had changed so much, and was taken aback when I replied that those elements were ones I considered too latter-day to care much about.

The movie made the character tolerable with the infusion of Kitty Pryde character-function DNA.

I suppose she could be made bearable in the comics, but only if she never, ever, shares so much as a panel with Gambit ever again. Gambit himself, furthermore, should not only be killed off (again) in the most hard-to-reverse manner imaginable, but should first be turned evil, miswritten, ruined or otherwise rendered unusable to a degree that renders him pretty much impossible to repair.

Yeah, once a bunch of people started writing Rogue/Gambit as soulmates, the character pretty much died. the powers revamp was a total failure, especially when they became mostly a deus ex machina to solve whatever problem cropped up. I had high hopes when she started leading her own team (interesting group with Cannonball, Sabretooth, Iceman), but then Gambit showed up again and Rogue became lame.

Seriously, Rogue has been a great character and very poorly used for most of the last 15+ years. remember how awesome she was during the first Genosha story?

I used to like Rogue once upon a time, but I’ll agree with everyone who’s saying the character has been ruined. And for me, it wasn’t even the Gambit stuff – the X-Men have been more a soap opera than anything else for as long as I’ve been reading them. Although it did always bug me that she was always whining about not being able to kiss and touch other people, considering that the presence of someone who actually wanted to kiss her – even if he couldn’t – officially made her social life much better than mine, and I didn’t have superstrength and flight to balance it out. Especially considering that power nullifying devices seem to litter the ground whenever the plot requires them. And unless Gambit has a serious latex allergy, there was just no excuse for the level of angst those two put out. But I digress.

The beginning of the end for Rogue in my estimation was when her powers and characterization started getting ridiculously inconsistent. Aside from artists and writers getting sloppy about the flesh-to-flesh thing (something that was always a problem for Rogue), people stopped losing consciousness when she absorbed their powers more often than not, and sometimes even kept using their powers (sounds like nitpicking, but it actually invalidates a major plot point of the story where Rogue first gains the X-Men’s trust by saving Colossus). Then Claremont started going nuts with her when he returned to the book. Suddenly she was the team leader despite being on a team where virtually every other member was more qualified just because she was Claremont’s new favorite (it made about as much sense as making Kyle Rayner the leader of the Morrison era JLA), then out of nowhere he made her fast enough to literally catch bullets (and not just one – I remember a panel during the egregious Neo plotline where her arms are just a blur around her as she catches every single bullet being fired from an aoutomatic weapon on full auto at close range). By the time she was manifesting the powers of everyone she’d ever touched all at once, it found it impossible to recognize the character I used to like, or to care.

Doh! I forgot about fixing the major flaw I noticed when I was 7. For the love of god, give her a little watch that lets her turn her powers on and off at will or something. The best thing Claremont ever did for her was take her powers away in X-Treme X-Men, but then that improved the character so much that they gave her her own series and felt they had to repower her. Thanks for the reminder, ZZZ.

I’m only half kidding about this: why not have her drain Jessica Jones’ powers? That way Jessica gets to be a normal person, which she seems to want at least some of the time, and Rogue gets her flight and superstrength back. Of course, once upon a time that would have meant Jessica would have to spend months if not years in a coma and be a blank slate when she woke up, but thanks to the miracle of Rogue’s powers becoming wildly inconsistent Sunfire was up and around in no time, so there’s no reason Jessica can’t have it the same way.

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