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A Year of Cool Comic Book Moments – Day 84

Here is the latest cool comic book moment in our year-long look at one cool comic book moment a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Today we look at a neat entrance during a fight between the Avengers and Count Nefaria.


In this classic conflagration between the Avengers and Count Nefaria that took place in Avengers #164-166, the good Count has suddenly become one of the most powerful beings on Earth, and he decides to use this newfound power against the Avengers.

After beating them badly once, he returns for Thor. The Avengers are there to fight him once again before the Mighty One finally makes the scene in a dramatic page.

The story and art are courtesy of Jim Shooter and John Byrne (and the last page is definitely THE moment of it all)…

Such great artwork by Byrne.


I’ve always wondered why Iron Man’s armor is often drawn to show all the lines and curves of his muscles… If it’s metal, shouldn’t all the surfaces look smooth? Or is the armor elastic or something?

One of the first 30 or so comics that I read as a kid. Awesome stuff.

Tuomas – this was still back in the day when high-tech armor meant small, light, and thin, instead of huge, heavy, and highly explosive.

1) Can we have some love for Jim Shooter! As a writer, he was usually pretty midlist (and sometimes horrible — see Avengers #200) but once in a while he transcended and did something really cool. I’d say this trilogy qualifies.

2) Byrne’s artwork is good, but not up to his highest standards — page 26 (for instance) is decent but uninspired. Mind, this may have been the inking.

3) Note that this whole thing is basically “Avengers versus Superman”.

Doug M.

This is one of my earliest comics experiences, and I love it! Great pick!

These Shooter issues are ones I remember fondly. I like how this trilogy even tied into the Korvac Saga (with the recurring subplot of Thor arriving unexpectedly to turn the tide against Graviton, Ultron, and lastly Nefaria).

Amazing how this one story in particular pretty much shot Nefaria into the ranks of a heavyweight villain, even though he generally didn’t have powers and was a pretty average villain (although he did kill an X-Man, I suppose).

I’m not sure which is uglier: the costume that Wonder Man was wearing at the time, or that same costume without the shirt…

awsome moment . for loved the era when beast was an avenger not to mention the look on nefaria’s face when
Thor arrives and looks not happy

If there’s one thing Thor’s good at, it’s making an entrance. And also busting heads.

One small correction, this was in Avengers 164-166 I believe.

I’m really enjoying this series, thanks for posting these.

“I’ve always wondered why Iron Man’s armor is often drawn to show all the lines and curves of his muscles.”

These days, it isn’t. But back in the day (and still for a lot of superheroes), pencillers just drew a naked human body for the superhero, added any accoutrements from the model sheet (like Superman’s cape, or those things on Iron Man’s shoulders and hips), and let the colorist sort the rest out.

I say thee yay! One of the greatest super-hero battles of all time!

Which I believe was never reprinted anywhere, by the way. Avengers at the time was easily my favorite comic – and no other comic can boast having had George Perez and John Byrne alternating on the art! Why hasn’t most of this run been reprinted?

Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

I think one of the worst “lazy artist” comics I’ve read was some issue of Transformers, where Galvatron was super angry, and the artist drew him a tongue and some spit coming out of his mouth. Why the hell would a robot have a tongue, let alone spit?

” These days, it isn’t. But back in the day (and still for a lot of superheroes), pencillers just drew a naked human body for the superhero, added any accoutrements from the model sheet (like Superman’s cape, or those things on Iron Man’s shoulders and hips), and let the colorist sort the rest out. ”

And this may be one of the reasons why it took Iron Man so long to become anything more than a B-List character. If the armor isn’t drawn with a metallic texture and weight, Tony just looks like a guy in a wetsuit and a cheap robot mask; about as iconic as Invincible’s costume ( which is, at the very least, textually referenced as being an iconic but generalized super-suit ).

That’s a really over-written fight scene–“Ah! Got him square with a full power double repulsor zap!…Got to evade those deadly laser beams!” But that is a cool title–“Day of the Godslayer!”

Iron Man’s costume was supposed to be pretty flexible, right? Like chain mail, I thought. Wasn’t this during the time he carried it all folded up in a briefcase? It would have to be pretty darn flexible to do that.

Shooter’s run on the Avengers was great, in my opinion. This was one heck of an issue. Great choice.

I think the moment is when Cap utters his immortal line: “Yellowja–?!”

Yeah. Iron Man´s armor could be folded up in a briefcase (even the helmet!). The red parts were rigid and the yellow ones were flexible like clothes.

I guess that suitcase did weigh a ton.

Wow, back when Byrne could still draw.

who’s inking Byrne here? is it Rubenstein?

The inks on this run of Avengers (about #157-170) were by Pablo Marcos. It took me a few years of re-reading them before I noticed that was the common thread that made the Sal Buscema issues look a lot like the George Pérez issues and the John Byrne issues.

Classic stuff. Marvel should do a hardcover or Visionaries trade reprinting these issues along with Byrne’s second Avengers run (#181-191) from later on. I know they just released the first half of those recently, but a complete volume is a must.

Random Stranger

March 26, 2009 at 4:44 pm

That whole fight is great. If it’s the one I’m thinking of then Nefaria gets a great moment while fighting Thor and even the Vision gets a bit of awesomeness in there.

My memory of this is vague, but here goes. The original Marvel Handbook (roughly contemporary) said that Iron Man’s armor was a combination of lots of things, including a “ceramic alloy” that was able to be worn as tight as Spandex but was stronger than steel. At least, that’s how I remember it.

Does anyone have the Handbook from that time? Now I’m really curious exactly what it said and I don’t think I have the original any more.

There have been a LOT of different armours. At least one of the “flexible as cloth” ones would harden after he put it on, and an electromagnetic field was automatically applied from the gauntlets, boots and torso to make it bulletproof.

In another sense, the muslces showing through the armour is just an artistic convention, like the way the eye and mouth slits on his faceplate change position and orientation to express emotion. There are countless examples of this, it used to happen all the time. Have a look at some of Gene Colan’s work in the Essentials, for instance.

Now this is bad ass. The Shooter/Byrne/Perez run is one of my favorites ever. As powerful as he is, you KNOW Nefaria is crapping in his pants in those last 2 panels.

Great story! The next issue was fantastic too. In the end, Vision stopped Nefaria by dropping on him at his highest density from a mile up. Also, I think that issue featured the first time a villain stopped Thor’s hammer with his bare hand! (At least that I’m aware of)

Actually, it was the Vision that kicked Nefaria’s ass. He flew high above Nefaria and then altered his density to as hard as diamond and dropped himself on Nefaria like a bunker-buster bomb.

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