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A Year of Cool Comic Book Moments – Day 96

Here is the latest cool comic book moment in our year-long look at one cool comic book moment a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Here’s the second of five cool moments from Mark Waid and Ron Garney’s Captain America run!

Enjoy!

These are the first few pages from Captain America #445, which is where Waid and Garney actually had Cap return (Cap’s body was breaking down due to the Super Soldier Serum expiring, as it was never intended to be working over fifty years later. A cure was found, but the Red Skull stole it – he then has a bunch of goons steal Cap’s near-death body and put him into cyrogenics while they pumped Cap’s body with the cure) – I absolutely love three things about this scene in particular…

1. The drama building up to double-page spread

2. The use of cryogenics as a throwback to Cap’s Silver Age return (classic!)

and, of course,

3. How awesome Ron Garney draws the double-page spread (which is definitely THE moment here).

Click on the double-page spread to enlarge it! And marvel at the awesomeness of it!

34 Comments

So does cap have two empty graves in Arlington or did they reuse this one when he died again?

Cool moment btw.

I guess this is why the more recent Brubaker death did not impact me as much. How many times had Cap died by the time the Waid/Garney years arrived? And is that Bill Clinton carrying the casket? And witness Jack Monroe, now also pushing up daisies, but back then he had been Steve’s longtime partner for over a decade. Maybe in another 20 years we’ll witness a Nomad revival.

My head is spinning.

Another awesome moment from this run. Eagerly anticipating the rest.

“Level Red… Level White… and holding,” – that’s pretty awesome.

Wait, I can’t tell what is happening. I haven’t read this run, so how is he being brought to life…?

I added an explanation, Goh, although I dunno if the facts of the story really are any more understandable than being completely in the dark. ;)

I’d tell you how Cap came back, but it’d spoil one of the better twists from this arc.

By the way — does anyone know if the new collection of the Waid/Garney run includes #444? I have the trade with issues #445-448, and it always bugged me that #444 wasn’t included.

Have a good day.
John Cage

Yes it does. It also has issues 450-454 also. Its a pretty decent collection.

Any chance you will shift over to the Gruenwald run on Cap? It was A LOT better than this run.

(It was the 90’s…what can you do?)

Mike Loughlin

April 7, 2009 at 5:48 am

He was brought back…. with SCIENCE!!!!

“(It was the 90’s…what can you do?)”

I know what you mean. No matter how much I enjoyed Waid’s writing on Cap (and it was good) that art just looks soooooooooooooooooo dated!

Funny, how work most artwork from the 70’s or 80’s can still stand up today, but work from nearly any mainstream (Marvel/DC) 1990’s title just looks so bad.

Odd choice of pallbearers. I’d think that some combination of the original Avengers, Rick Jones, Nick Fury, and the Falcon would have made more sense. (Or was Iron Man a teenager at this time? And was Nick dead?)

Also, Clinton as a pallbearer? Fail.

Finally, I never got the concept of the Super-Soldier Serum wearing off. My understanding was that the serum was a glorified steroid that rapidly developed Cap from a puny human to a peak one. I’m no biologist, but I’d think that even if the steroid “wore off,” Cap’s body had already been redeveloped to the point where it wouldn’t affect him.

Anyway, nice two-page spread.

cool moment so creepy that the red skull was saving his worse enemy as the nation mourned without a body . as cap shows he is back and no doubt mad over owing his life to the skull

Patrick Joseph

April 7, 2009 at 7:24 am

I just read this run in it’s entirety a couple of months ago and really enjoyed it. I can appreciate why some people are criticizing Garney’s art efforts, but comparing it to his later stuff it’s pretty obvious that he is versatile enough to match whatever style is most commercial at the time. His design and cartooning sense shines through regardless of what stylistic sheen sits on top of it.

Annoyed Grunt

April 7, 2009 at 9:04 am

The Thing as a pallbearer kind of makes me laugh since he could carry the coffin himself without any problems.

“Also, Clinton as a pallbearer? Fail.”

Why did you use a lame nerdy critique to describe the president carrying Captain America’s casket? What wrong with that?

I quite liked Bill Clinton as a pallbearer. Having the current president as a pallbearer for America’s hero seems quite reasonable. Plus Clinton’s “I Feel Your Pain,” mindset makes him a perfect choice. Sure, the Avengers might be a better choice, but I could see the president edging out more logical choices.

I more question Scott Summers appearance as a pallbearer.

“The Thing as a pallbearer kind of makes me laugh since he could carry the coffin himself without any problems.”

It reminded me of the Identity Crisis line about how Hawkman could Ralph’s coffin himself, but that didn’t matter because people would have fought over the honour.

But… Cyclops, seriously? Or is that supposed to be Nomad or Rick Jones or… geez, anyone but Cyclops?

(And I *like* Cyclops. It’d be as weird as having, say, Rick Flagg as one of Batman’s pallb

My bet is that what they were going for was the fact that Cap’s funeral would be a bit of a PR thing, so it would put the X-Men in good to have their leader be one of Cap’s pall bearers (and Cap certainly wouldn’t object to the notion of his funeral helping mutant relations). That’s the same reason why I imagine the current President and the current leader of the Avengers were each pall bearers.

Now I have no clue why Quicksilver, the Thing and random guy was there, though.

Odd choice of pallbearers. I’d think that some combination of the original Avengers, Rick Jones, Nick Fury, and the Falcon would have made more sense.

Actually, Bill Clinton was the only pall-bearer that made any sense. He was the sitting U.S. President at the time and it isn’t like the guy is named Captain France. On the larger issue, it would be hard to imagine a less logical collection of Marvel heroes to carry that casket. You would think that Nick Fury, Rick Jones and the Falcon would be mandatory. The other two slots could be almost any Avengers except the two they chose. Black Widow was a Russian agent after all. Maybe they picked Ben Grimm because he did have a secret identity, but how does that explain Scott Summers. It is pretty hilarious.

Nice moment at the end though. Waid has a good feel for Cap.

“Why did you use a lame nerdy critique to describe the president carrying Captain America’s casket? What wrong with that?”

OK, instead of “fail,” how about “I don’t care for that”?

Not having the issue in front of me, I don’t know how the funeral went exactly. But I’ve never heard of the President of the United States acting as a pallbearer at a military funeral. (Again, I assume that Cap was supposed to be getting military honors, given that he’s a memebr of the U.S. army and that he’s being buried in Arlington.) Military honor guards are highly trained and regimented, and have to perform the ceremony in extremely specific steps. In reality, Clinton’s schedule wouldn’t give him the time to prepare for such a regimented ceremony.

Also, caskets are REALLY heavy, even when empty. (I recall that Cap’s body disappeared, so I suspect this casket is empty.) I agree with an above commenter that the Thing could probably carry the load by himself…but he’s only carrying one side, so the other is really off-balance. I know Clinton was a runner, but I don’t know that he was also in shape enough to comfortably carry a casket as casually as he appears to be doing here.

Giving the eulogy, I’d have no problem with. Clinton gave a speech at Superman’s funeral, and I didn’t take issue with that. (Looking at this again, I wouldn’t have minded if Clinton gave the speech in lieu of the fictional 5-star general…who’s got to be retired, since the U.S. hasn’t had a 5-star since the 1950s.)

OK, I take it back: it says “Statesman’s” funeral, not military. Now I wish it had been a military one….

The Thing as a pallbearer kind of makes me laugh since he could carry the coffin himself without any problems.
Well yes, but how would it look, with Ben Grimm carrying the coffin to the grave under one arm like a sack of groceries?

Re the art – at the time, people _loved_ this art, it was a critical and popular success. I don’t see anything wrong with it today. What are the defects meant to be, apart from the fact that it was fashionable a decade ago? Just curious.

Another excellent moment, of course! It seems just about every issue in this run has at least one candidate, from memory.

Maybe it’s me but I still love Garney’s art. Is it the action panels people are having a trouble with? Bet it’s the action panels.

I find it interesting how often Garney’s art changes gears in just a few pages. There’s some Frank Miller/Klaus Janson in there, but the splash is more or less photorealistic (in the superhero muscles-with-muscles sense), and the pallbearer panel reminds me of… something, though I can’t seem to figure out what. The layout on the 3rd page seems kind of like Howard Chaykin too. Very strange stuff. Nice to look at, though.

At the time, I thought Clinton’s presence was a cute shot at the competition: sure, Clinton spoke at Superman’s funeral, but he one of Cap’s pallbearers.

As for Quicksilver, he was part of Caps Kooky Quartet back in the day, and he’s instantly recognizable out of costume. Not my first choice (Hawkeye, anyone?), but it makes sense.

I actually found the splash page to have the least realistic art. The muscles seem anatomically incorrect, the shading is inconsistent, and Captain America has that gaping-mouth facial expression that was everywhere in the 1990s. The most realistic and least Image-y art was the shading on the Thing’s suit and on Captain Ameirca’s head as the cure starts to work. I also liked the bold perspective on the coffin. But those ersatz Jim Lee noses make everyone–but particularly Bill Clinton and the Black Widow–look like they’re in an animated Kleenex commercial.

BTW, why did the Red Skull cure Captain America? I assume there was a reason–like he had a plan to control Captain America, or (less wise) he wanted to fight Captain America and wanted it to be a real fight with his enemy being in good health.

LouReedRichards

April 8, 2009 at 10:43 am

The Image look and the decline in overall quality led me to abandon most mainstream comics in the early 90’s.

Waid and Garney’s Cap was one of the few comics that pointed to brighter days ahead.

Garney stood out because, while he may have had a few of the 90’s affections in his art, he largely concentrated on letting his art tell a story. His art had an energy and cartoonish joy that the Image guys (and even more so – their legion of imitators) just could not seem to convey, no matter how many damn cross hatched and speed lines they put in.

BTW: I read Cap through the Gruenwald years, I don’t really see what all the charm is in them though.
To me they read as pretty bland stuff.

Oh! that’s Nomad, from the glasses, I also thought it was Cyclops, being the 90’s I thought the artist was required to have an X-Man, (preferably Wolverine and usually covers, or is that now?), Ghost Rider or The Punisher , in every book drawn it may have been a standard contract thing at the time. At second look I thought it may be Matt Murdock who had missed a hair cut appointment , but who would have a blind pall bearer? But what about Bill’s nose did he knock back a couple before the ceremony. As for the super soldier serum was it added back in? If I remember right wasn’t the “SSS” taken out of Cap in a blood transfusion when they were removing the drugs he had been exposed to, in the story line “Streets of Poison”. how about one side of the casket is an American President the other a Russian spy, Or as Bill might put it a Hot Russian Lady Spy.
later!

i loathed Mark Gruenwald’s run on Cap, so i vote for no mention of it anywhere on this [or any other] website.
As far as i’m concerned, those issues never happened.

[…] http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/04/06/a-year-of-cool-comic-book-moments-day-96/But I’ve never heard of the President of the United States acting as a pallbearer at a military funeral. (Again, I assume that Cap was supposed to be getting military honors, given that he’s a memebr of the U.S. army and that he’s being … […]

“My bet is that what they were going for was the fact that Cap’s funeral would be a bit of a PR thing, so it would put the X-Men in good to have their leader be one of Cap’s pall bearers (and Cap certainly wouldn’t object to the notion of his funeral helping mutant relations). That’s the same reason why I imagine the current President and the current leader of the Avengers were each pall bearers”.

PR for who? The X-men weren’t ‘out’ by that point, to most people, Scott would’ve just been a normal human teacher(?) at the Xavier Institute/School for Gifted Youngsters…

Pretty sure the pallbearer in the red glasses is Dane Whitman, the Black Knight – prominent and longstanding member of the Avengers at the time, and his eyes were in the habit of going all red-energyish at that point. Still not sure who the random brown-haired guy is.

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