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A Year of Cool Comic Book Moments – Day 109

Here is the latest cool comic book moment in our year-long look at one cool comic book moment a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Today we take a three-part look at three notable cool moments from the Wonder Woman graphic novel by Greg Rucka and JG Jones titled Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia

Enjoy!

The Hiketeia is an ancient Greek ritual where a person completely offers themselves up to another person for protection, and in turn, that person MUST give protection to the person making the request.

In this original graphic novel, a woman commits a series of homicides in Gotham City. Batman is tracking her down but the woman manages to escape to the Themyscirian embassy where she invokes the Hiketeia to Wonder Woman.

This leads to the following awesome scene where you have the dogged pursuit of Batman countered by the dogged adherence to her customs of Wonder Woman.

What happens when an irresistible force such as Batman’s pursuit of justice meets an immovable object such as Wonder Woman’s convictions?

Something like this…

(Click on the above double-page spread to enlarge)

Stunning artwork by Jones mixed with an intriguing concept by Rucka make this an awesome moment. I’m debating between the punch or Batman actually leaving as “the” moment. I guess the punch just stands out too much NOT to have that be “the” moment.

Part 2 tomorrow!

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Wonder Woman pwns Batman! Badass!

ONE PUNCH!!!!

lol

About time. Batman as an irresistible force of nature gets SO tired (Morrison JLA, I am looking at you). When he actually chooses to instead argue his case and does so well, as he did here, he is much more impressive.

Of course, it would be even better if HE were the one to suggest discussing the matter later and leaving of his own accord, but I guess the host hero is supposed to make a better impression after all.

The moment to me is when Diana says, “You CAN’T go through me, Batman.”

i remember that moment and how it showed that batman and wonder woman fighting are like two rhinos crashing into each other. for after all two of dc best fighters fighting each other nothing better

The whole graphic novel is the moment.

I like the fact that he tries to get past her, tries to throw a punch. That alone says something.

I have this story and I don’t get WHO this “Batman” imposter is by the end of it. There aren’t enough clues given throughout, I suppose, to make it clear, but the Batman I’m familiar with isn’t such a stock “law and order” type of guy, and is instead one reasonable enough to actually get all of the facts and sit down with his friends/colleagues to get to the bottom of each case (see: Dennis O’Neil’s/Steve Englehart’s/Alan Davis’s run, Len Wein’s Untold Legend of the Batman, Batman: The Animated Series). The ending to that story was a complete cop-out as well, with Diana being effectively absolved of responsibility and any aftermath after Danielle kills herself.

I think JG Jones is an excellent artist, but in my opinion Diana’s punch is a bit of a fail on his part.

Yeah, the thrust of her arm just doesn’t sing….it feels really limp and not at all forceful.

I actually think the moment is when Batman chooses to throw the Batarang knowing full well that Wonder Woman is going to catch it.

I would almost pick Diana’s hand on Batman’s chest as the moment. I think it’s the most effective panel in the whole sequence. And I’m not sure if I agree that Batman would choose to fight Diana rather than to try every other angle at getting what he wants beforehand.

This looks pretty good. Maybe I’ll have to check out Rucka’s run on the title. Was this concurrent with that? Anybody a big fan of the run?

I wouldn’t have known Batman was leaving if you hadn’t said so. WW punches him out from right to left. When he jumps back up a building going from left to right, I assumed he was going back for more. I guess WW’s position on the balcony is supposed to reverse the direction everything’s traveling, but that’s tough to ascertain quickly. Or is everything going in a consistent direction? That looks like a park behind him, so I guess he’s swinging on a building next door to the embassy. Either way, it doesn’t make it very apparent he’s leaving. It might be clear in the comic If there was an establishing shot of the street before this excerpt.

As it is, it looks good, but it’s poor storytelling–aspiring artists take note!

stealthwise/Da Fug–There are probably federal prosecutors in Gotham that Bruce Wayne could influence into starting extradition proceedings. I don’t know how good a Batman comic that would be, though!

That’s the point, Dan, this isn’t a Batman comic, it’s a comic intended to play to the strengths of Wonder Woman (and fair enough, there are far too many out there that make her look weak or ineffective). I just don’t like how Batman is portrayed in the story, as he comes across as a thuggish jock throughout, which isn’t Batman to me, or to many other people.

@ stealthwise: Batman often gets like that when dealing with other super-heroes. It’s his way of looking tough when surrounded by people who can break him with a thought. Look at how he dealt with Keith Giffen’s Justice League.

@ BDaly and Gavin: Wonder Woman can knock Superman on his ass with one punch. If she hit batman like that, the Bat wouldn’t get back up. Ever. Her punch looked weak because for her it was. She pulled it big time to avoid doing Batman any real harm.

Awesome story. I look forward to the other moments!

Interesting concept, and jg jones, like you said. I’ll make sure to check this gn out.

Good guy versus good guy s done so often.

I hate stories where the good guy has to “protect” the bad guy from geting what’s coming to them, for whatever plot device that gets invoked.

If Wonder Woman beleived that this woman was innocent, and was protecting her while attempting to clear her name- fine. Then WW could have a reasoned discussion with Batman about it, and he might even be willing to investigate it to verify the truth.

As it appears- WW is getting used, and this Amazon ritual is shown as more important than what’s right, or just. And if the bad girl kills herself in the end, then Wonder Woman doesn’t have to make a choice of breaking this invoked bond for the greater good. That would be dramatic.

Instead it looks like we get a story that preaches tolerance, and presents the idea of “don’t judge others values because they are different than ours”. Which is not a bad moral, just don’t set up the story so that the other we’re not judging is a mass murderer.

What comes to mind, is the current middle east situation. There is a distinction between accepting a different religion, and those who would use said religion as justification for violence and terror against others. I am tolerant of the difference in faith. I have a zero tolerance policy of terrorists.

Which gets to my whole problem with Wonder Woman as presented so often- oh, look, someone who has a different viewpoint, what can we learn from her, because obviously she is so much wiser than we are? Wouldn’t it be novel if WW learned that something in “man’s” world was superior to the way she knows? SO that learning goes both ways. Otherise it becaomes kinda preachy.

Or am I reading way too much into this?

Man, remember that one moment where Chris Priest did something funky and cool with Wonder Woman, probably because he realized that “serious” Wonder Woman comics are fucking stupid? I forgot my point, but serious Wonder Woman comics are fucking stupid, so there’s that.

I do agree with Boatman. Wonder Woman as preachy moral superior is pretty well beaten in to the ground. However, Batman’s kinda breaking laws himself by jumping in to the embassy. Last I heard, embassies are supposed to belong to the country they represent. American law wouldn’t supersede the laws of the Amazons there.

I do have a compliment for the art, though…Wonder Woman’s not wearing armor or brandishing a weapon. That’s a pretty good start.

@Boatman – I take it you haven’t read the story but it’s not as cut and dry as this scene might lead you to believe. WW was tricked by the girl into Hikatea, the other part of which is that the sublicant MUST obey the wishes of her protector no matter what; such is the price of protection. There’s actually an interesting scene later where Batman invokes Hikatea to Wonder Woman like the girl did.

WW did not know before this scene what the girl had done but even after finding out, she knew that she was still obligated to uphold the Hikatea oath and provide protection. Once given she cannot revoke Hikatea and she cannot violate it – the women you see in the final panels are Greek Furies who enforce Hikatea. Fail to live up to the responsibilities of the oath and they will rip you apart. This story uses morals as a pretense but it’s really about responsibility, choices and (avoiding) their consequences.

Batman is a jerk here but the world’s greatest detective was led off track by a determined girl who committed murder in his city which I’m sure didn’t go down well with him. Besides Rucka KNOWS Batman (at this point having written for more many years in Detective Comics) and I took his reaction in this scene as his disappointment in not being able to stop her from killing before it was too late. That’s self-reflective IMO – I know I don’t need to remind you of why he is Batman in the first place. Plus his bluster is a tactic. This is Wonder Woman he is facing after all.

Good idea, bad execution, but hey, nice art. If I had to pick a moment…hard to say. Maybe the hand on the chest?

Tough luck. He was trying to take her by suprised bataran and everything. He knows that he can’t fight her head on… it’s like trying to fight superman head on.

The moment for me is when Batman unironically uses The Law as an argument to bring a woman to the cops when he – a vigilante who cannot, no matter how much Jim Gordon wants him to, be legally sanctioned as a law-enforcer – violates every goddamn law in breaking into an embassy – which is sovereign territory of the nation who own the embassy.

That punch’s awkwardness is probably down to the rule of comics which dictates women always have to have their hips thrust back in at least an impression of sexiness.

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