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	<title>Comments on: Comic Book Legends Revealed #204</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In retrospect, it might have been a better idea to wait a couple of weeks. The &quot;Scott leaves Maddie and lies to Jean&quot; story arguably damaged Scott&#039;s character permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In retrospect, it might have been a better idea to wait a couple of weeks. The "Scott leaves Maddie and lies to Jean" story arguably damaged Scott's character permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: lizzbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizzbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these articles! Coincidentally, Kurt Busiek just gave an interview where he talked about his part in resurrecting Jean Grey for &lt;i&gt;X-Factor&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tfaw.com/blog/2009/04/27/kurt-busiek-marathon-man/?qt=Robot6_090427&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these articles! Coincidentally, Kurt Busiek just gave an interview where he talked about his part in resurrecting Jean Grey for <i>X-Factor</i> <a href="http://www.tfaw.com/blog/2009/04/27/kurt-busiek-marathon-man/?qt=Robot6_090427" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Retcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major Retcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why does that method of torture sound familiar?&quot; 

Ian, I think they used a similar method on &quot;Hannibal&quot;, the &quot;Silence of the lambs&quot; awful sequel. IIRC, the vilain planned to kill Lecter using some kind of killer pigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Why does that method of torture sound familiar?" </p>
<p>Ian, I think they used a similar method on "Hannibal", the "Silence of the lambs" awful sequel. IIRC, the vilain planned to kill Lecter using some kind of killer pigs.</p>
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		<title>By: Turkish Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turkish Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So J. Jonah Jameson was right after all about that  meancing Spider-Man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So J. Jonah Jameson was right after all about that  meancing Spider-Man!</p>
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		<title>By: Shiai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Vampirella, Harris has announced that the Quarterly is done with (at least for now), but that a &quot;Second Coming&quot; will occur in September, as part of Vampi&#039;s 40th anniversary commemoration.  More details will apparently be forthcoming in May.

http://www.vampirella.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Vampirella, Harris has announced that the Quarterly is done with (at least for now), but that a "Second Coming" will occur in September, as part of Vampi's 40th anniversary commemoration.  More details will apparently be forthcoming in May.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vampirella.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vampirella.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, for whatever it&#039;s worth, both Shooter and Layton have acknowledged they were pretty close friends and colleagues at the time-- while I&#039;m sure Layton was not thrilled at having to re-do the issue, it didn&#039;t seem to impede their working relationship at Marvel through the end of Shooter&#039;s tenure (I know they had a pretty dramatic falling-out after that, according to interviews both men have given). And as someone who loved Marvel comics during Shooter&#039;s tenure, I wouldn&#039;t mind having him back there as an editor or a writer (maybe he could take over &lt;I&gt;The Avengers&lt;/I&gt; from Bendis, a writer  I like who is horribly miscast on that book).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, for whatever it's worth, both Shooter and Layton have acknowledged they were pretty close friends and colleagues at the time-- while I'm sure Layton was not thrilled at having to re-do the issue, it didn't seem to impede their working relationship at Marvel through the end of Shooter's tenure (I know they had a pretty dramatic falling-out after that, according to interviews both men have given). And as someone who loved Marvel comics during Shooter's tenure, I wouldn't mind having him back there as an editor or a writer (maybe he could take over <i>The Avengers</i> from Bendis, a writer  I like who is horribly miscast on that book).</p>
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		<title>By: Mars Bonfire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mars Bonfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that Jim Shooter&#039;s top priority was to get comic books out on time - every time, all the time in the 70s and 80s. The same for Dick Giordano at DC. Only because Marvel and DC&#039;s main income came from news-stand distribution. Nationwide distributers would not be too happy with any publisher that could not guarantee product out on time as promised. This, of course, did not apply to series that were direct sales only to comic shops - Camelot 3000 12 monthly issues took over two years to appear.

I can&#039;t speak for the US; but in the UK, we don&#039;t have newstand distriubtion for Marvel and DC anymore. You have to go to comic shops to buy the monthlies, annuals and mini-series. Comic shops are a bit more forgiving (or have no choice?) regarding late shipping. So maybe the comic companies are a bit more relaxed and not too worried if a book is late? No fear of Marvel or DC being dropped by a nationwide distributer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that Jim Shooter's top priority was to get comic books out on time - every time, all the time in the 70s and 80s. The same for Dick Giordano at DC. Only because Marvel and DC's main income came from news-stand distribution. Nationwide distributers would not be too happy with any publisher that could not guarantee product out on time as promised. This, of course, did not apply to series that were direct sales only to comic shops - Camelot 3000 12 monthly issues took over two years to appear.</p>
<p>I can't speak for the US; but in the UK, we don't have newstand distriubtion for Marvel and DC anymore. You have to go to comic shops to buy the monthlies, annuals and mini-series. Comic shops are a bit more forgiving (or have no choice?) regarding late shipping. So maybe the comic companies are a bit more relaxed and not too worried if a book is late? No fear of Marvel or DC being dropped by a nationwide distributer?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Cadigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Cadigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A movie which shows Captain America as a good guy and Spider-Man as a bad guy... sounds like it was financed by the Daily Bugle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A movie which shows Captain America as a good guy and Spider-Man as a bad guy... sounds like it was financed by the Daily Bugle!</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can’t have it both ways…either he ok’s the final work…or he ok’s the work in progress. &quot;

It seems like, if a book is so important that it has to meet a specific release date (even in the case of a #1 issue, where the fans aren&#039;t actually waiting for it yet), the editor should read it before there are only two weeks left.  He should be on the ball enough and know enough about what they&#039;re doing so that he doesn&#039;t have to scrap the whole thing and give them two weeks to start over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Can’t have it both ways…either he ok’s the final work…or he ok’s the work in progress. "</p>
<p>It seems like, if a book is so important that it has to meet a specific release date (even in the case of a #1 issue, where the fans aren't actually waiting for it yet), the editor should read it before there are only two weeks left.  He should be on the ball enough and know enough about what they're doing so that he doesn't have to scrap the whole thing and give them two weeks to start over.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked up the Vampirella flap, and found a pretty direct set of answers from Fangoria&#039;s associate editor Troy Brownfield in an interview at Comicmix from October 2008.

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/11/07/inside-fangoria-graphix/


&quot;CMix: It sounds like the two ends of the operation weren’t talking to one another.  Is that how the Vampirella fubar occurred?
 
TB: That bit of ancient history was very much a cart-before-the-horse situation.  We knew that there was an attempt at a deal in the works.  As for the announcement, well, Scott was on stage at one of the Fangoria Weekend of Horrors conventions.  He had Michael Madsen, Amber Benson, Dee Snider . . . a number of people up there with him.  One of the executives pulled Scott aside as he was emceeing and said, basically, “Hey, don’t forget to tell ‘em we got Vampirella!”  Scott basically did a “Really?  Cool”, turned around and announced it.

A couple of days later, that’s all over the internet, and Harris is saying, “Hey, wait!”  On Scott’s side, he’d been told it was good.  As it turned out, it wasn’t quite a done deal.  Fortunately, Harris Comics and Vampirella editor Bon and Scott (hey, Bon Scott!) talked way back in February of ‘07 and the air between them is totally clear.  It’s not dissimilar, in some respects, to the controversy surrounding The Phantom this year.  In point of fact, the situation went on much longer in the blogosphere than it actually did in practical, realistic terms.  Which, as they say, is showbiz.&quot;

It&#039;s funny that they mention that it went on much longer online.  How long do these guys (both Fangoria and Harris) have to keep answering that question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked up the Vampirella flap, and found a pretty direct set of answers from Fangoria's associate editor Troy Brownfield in an interview at Comicmix from October 2008.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/11/07/inside-fangoria-graphix/" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/11/07/inside-fangoria-graphix/</a></p>
<p>"CMix: It sounds like the two ends of the operation weren’t talking to one another.  Is that how the Vampirella fubar occurred?</p>
<p>TB: That bit of ancient history was very much a cart-before-the-horse situation.  We knew that there was an attempt at a deal in the works.  As for the announcement, well, Scott was on stage at one of the Fangoria Weekend of Horrors conventions.  He had Michael Madsen, Amber Benson, Dee Snider . . . a number of people up there with him.  One of the executives pulled Scott aside as he was emceeing and said, basically, “Hey, don’t forget to tell ‘em we got Vampirella!”  Scott basically did a “Really?  Cool”, turned around and announced it.</p>
<p>A couple of days later, that’s all over the internet, and Harris is saying, “Hey, wait!”  On Scott’s side, he’d been told it was good.  As it turned out, it wasn’t quite a done deal.  Fortunately, Harris Comics and Vampirella editor Bon and Scott (hey, Bon Scott!) talked way back in February of ‘07 and the air between them is totally clear.  It’s not dissimilar, in some respects, to the controversy surrounding The Phantom this year.  In point of fact, the situation went on much longer in the blogosphere than it actually did in practical, realistic terms.  Which, as they say, is showbiz."</p>
<p>It's funny that they mention that it went on much longer online.  How long do these guys (both Fangoria and Harris) have to keep answering that question?</p>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forget to talk about that in 3 dev adem, spider-man can clone himself. Everytime cap killed him a clone popped out.

Turkey made tons of rip-off movies.  Batman, superman, he-man, tarzan and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forget to talk about that in 3 dev adem, spider-man can clone himself. Everytime cap killed him a clone popped out.</p>
<p>Turkey made tons of rip-off movies.  Batman, superman, he-man, tarzan and others.</p>
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		<title>By: thebhamgunslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>thebhamgunslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, another great one.  I&#039;ve been addicted to your column for a year now.  Always very interesting and entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, another great one.  I've been addicted to your column for a year now.  Always very interesting and entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: John Trumbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Trumbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Brian!  Informative as always.  

A bit of that first X-Factor cover was used as an action shot in Cyclops&#039; Deluxe Marvel Handbook entry.  Always wondered where that shot came from.

I&#039;d really love to hear more about the first version of X-Factor #1 &amp; why it was rejected.  Was it just the resurrection of Jean Grey that affected everything so much or was there some other reason?  

The pages in Fantastic Four #286 that dealt with Jean&#039;s resurrection were also heavily rewritten &amp; redrawn (by Chris Claremont &amp; Jackson Guice) shortly before release.  John Byrne has the original version of those pages up at his website.  I&#039;d put up a link, but his site&#039;s not loading for me right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Brian!  Informative as always.  </p>
<p>A bit of that first X-Factor cover was used as an action shot in Cyclops' Deluxe Marvel Handbook entry.  Always wondered where that shot came from.</p>
<p>I'd really love to hear more about the first version of X-Factor #1 &amp; why it was rejected.  Was it just the resurrection of Jean Grey that affected everything so much or was there some other reason?  </p>
<p>The pages in Fantastic Four #286 that dealt with Jean's resurrection were also heavily rewritten &amp; redrawn (by Chris Claremont &amp; Jackson Guice) shortly before release.  John Byrne has the original version of those pages up at his website.  I'd put up a link, but his site's not loading for me right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God I&#039;d love to have Jim Shooter back on that wall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God I'd love to have Jim Shooter back on that wall</p>
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		<title>By: Saturday Super Special: Out of My Mind for 25 April 2009 &#171; Out Of My Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturday Super Special: Out of My Mind for 25 April 2009 &#171; Out Of My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Watch: &#8220;The Avengers&#8221;; Marvel Comics&#8217; nightmare: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Watch: &#8220;The Avengers&#8221;; Marvel Comics&#8217; nightmare: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea I want to see the original first ish</description>
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		<title>By: Pablo Hidalgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo Hidalgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Regarding the &quot;lost art&quot; of X-Factor #1, examples of this first pass made its way into the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition, which was publishing concurrently with the launch of X-Factor. Check out the Cyclops art in issue #3. I always wondered where that art came from, and assumed it was commissioned for OHOTMUDE, but now I see that the first pass cover art was the source of one of the pieces.

ph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Regarding the "lost art" of X-Factor #1, examples of this first pass made its way into the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition, which was publishing concurrently with the launch of X-Factor. Check out the Cyclops art in issue #3. I always wondered where that art came from, and assumed it was commissioned for OHOTMUDE, but now I see that the first pass cover art was the source of one of the pieces.</p>
<p>ph</p>
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		<title>By: red Ricky</title>
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		<dc:creator>red Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Would be interesting to hear Shooter’s side of the story, Brian.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I bet Shooter&#039;s side of the story would go something like this:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...you want me on that wall, YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!!!   
Honestly Quesada, I don&#039;t know what the hell kind of an outfit you&#039;re running here.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<i>Would be interesting to hear Shooter’s side of the story, Brian.</i>
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<p>I bet Shooter's side of the story would go something like this:</p>
<p><b><i>"...you want me on that wall, YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!!!<br />
Honestly Quesada, I don't know what the hell kind of an outfit you're running here."</i></b></p>
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		<title>By: Reno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two weeks for a double-sized issue. Makes you wonder why some artists nowadays can&#039;t even meet a monthly deadline.

Oh, andf if yoi like 3 Dev Adam, I suggest hunting down a copy of James Batman, a mash-up between James Bond and Batman (It&#039;s a Philippine movie from the 1960s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks for a double-sized issue. Makes you wonder why some artists nowadays can't even meet a monthly deadline.</p>
<p>Oh, andf if yoi like 3 Dev Adam, I suggest hunting down a copy of James Batman, a mash-up between James Bond and Batman (It's a Philippine movie from the 1960s).</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a comics customer in the 80s, I only knew about Shooter&#039;s work from the quality of the books Marvel put out- and those were pretty good days. Sure, there were Marvel &quot;insider&quot; mags such as MARVEL AGE, but they always spoke of the behind-the-scenes stuff in rosy terms, and I wasn&#039;t naive enough to assume that was always true; at most Shooter got riffed over his being so tall. So maybe he was a dick, or maybe not- but as noted above, he got the work done, which was his job. I&#039;m not saying that having a healthy relationship with your employees isn&#039;t important, but the opposite -giving them too much leverage- is also bad, as we can see from the abuses &quot;Big Name&quot; stars commit these days.

Speaking of odd foreign superhero movies, I vaguely remember seeing a movie in VHS titled &quot;The Supermen&quot; or somesuch, with several guys wearing Superman-like costumes, except they had no powers (other than the costumes being invulnerable). It was a goofy, very low budget affair. I think it was Italian. Anybody know what I&#039;m talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a comics customer in the 80s, I only knew about Shooter's work from the quality of the books Marvel put out- and those were pretty good days. Sure, there were Marvel "insider" mags such as MARVEL AGE, but they always spoke of the behind-the-scenes stuff in rosy terms, and I wasn't naive enough to assume that was always true; at most Shooter got riffed over his being so tall. So maybe he was a dick, or maybe not- but as noted above, he got the work done, which was his job. I'm not saying that having a healthy relationship with your employees isn't important, but the opposite -giving them too much leverage- is also bad, as we can see from the abuses "Big Name" stars commit these days.</p>
<p>Speaking of odd foreign superhero movies, I vaguely remember seeing a movie in VHS titled "The Supermen" or somesuch, with several guys wearing Superman-like costumes, except they had no powers (other than the costumes being invulnerable). It was a goofy, very low budget affair. I think it was Italian. Anybody know what I'm talking about?</p>
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