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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Weekend Couch Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Weekend Couch Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a mildly interesting historical curiosity &#8212; this is the first appearance ever of the Batcave, an idea the comics promptly stole for themselves right down to the grandfather-clock entrance. Also this is the movie that prompted the comics to slim down the originally plump Alfred the butler to match his screen incarnation, as played by William Austin (Brian tells you more about that here.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a mildly interesting historical curiosity &#8212; this is the first appearance ever of the Batcave, an idea the comics promptly stole for themselves right down to the grandfather-clock entrance. Also this is the movie that prompted the comics to slim down the originally plump Alfred the butler to match his screen incarnation, as played by William Austin (Brian tells you more about that here.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks dan.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number 2 was Pat Broderick I believe.  It came up a bit recently in the forums.   IIRC Ellis and Broderick have very different versions of what happened.

It would make an interesting legend if we can get the full story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 2 was Pat Broderick I believe.  It came up a bit recently in the forums.   IIRC Ellis and Broderick have very different versions of what happened.</p>
<p>It would make an interesting legend if we can get the full story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just spent the last two days reading your whole archive.  Very cool.  I have a couple for you, although I am not sure if they exactly qualify.

1)  Dave Sim has mentioned in a couple places a planned issue Cerebus #301, to be created by the Swamp Thing team of Alan Moore, Steve Bissette and John Totleben.  He states that the issue is dead in the water due to a &quot;Don&#039;t darken my door&quot;  sort of situation between those three or some such.  What was/is the status or plan behind that proposed issue?  I thought it sounded like a great idea.

2)  Warren Ellis has stated he got an established penciller fired off of one of his earliest Marvel jobs for deviating from his script.  I have guessed this may be Doom 2099, but I just don&#039;t know enough about Marvel to know.  Seems extreme, especially if it was a 2099 property.

I hope these are helpful.  I am especially interested in Cerebus #301, so I hope you find something interesting out.

Thanks
Mateo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just spent the last two days reading your whole archive.  Very cool.  I have a couple for you, although I am not sure if they exactly qualify.</p>
<p>1)  Dave Sim has mentioned in a couple places a planned issue Cerebus #301, to be created by the Swamp Thing team of Alan Moore, Steve Bissette and John Totleben.  He states that the issue is dead in the water due to a "Don't darken my door"  sort of situation between those three or some such.  What was/is the status or plan behind that proposed issue?  I thought it sounded like a great idea.</p>
<p>2)  Warren Ellis has stated he got an established penciller fired off of one of his earliest Marvel jobs for deviating from his script.  I have guessed this may be Doom 2099, but I just don't know enough about Marvel to know.  Seems extreme, especially if it was a 2099 property.</p>
<p>I hope these are helpful.  I am especially interested in Cerebus #301, so I hope you find something interesting out.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Mateo</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Comic Book Legends Revealed #206</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Comic Book Legends Revealed #206</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, in discussing how the various film and television versions of Alfred (Batman&#8217;s butler) have af..., commenter Buttler remarked: We have Lynda Carter to thank for ending the powerless I Ching era of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,
Book arrived last night from Amazon.co.uk!
Looks great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,<br />
Book arrived last night from Amazon.co.uk!<br />
Looks great!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraser,

I think if Flash had more than one season the relationship with Tina would have developed, much like on Lois &amp; Clark. Unfortunately, CBS put the show in a timeslot that seemed designed to kill the show quick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraser,</p>
<p>I think if Flash had more than one season the relationship with Tina would have developed, much like on Lois &amp; Clark. Unfortunately, CBS put the show in a timeslot that seemed designed to kill the show quick!</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  don&#039;t count Tina as Barry&#039;s girlfriend in the TV show: They had exactly one kiss and came off much more like hero/sidekick. She did get a little possessive when PI Megan Lockhart started sleeping with Barry but that seemed as much about not being the only one trusted with Barry&#039;s secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  don't count Tina as Barry's girlfriend in the TV show: They had exactly one kiss and came off much more like hero/sidekick. She did get a little possessive when PI Megan Lockhart started sleeping with Barry but that seemed as much about not being the only one trusted with Barry's secret.</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, in pre-Crisis JLA Flash(Barry Allen) had a romance going with Zatanna. Meanwhile, in his own book he was engaged to and planning a wedding with Fiona Webb who, as of her wedding day, did not know Barry was Flash. This indescretion was never dealt with in either book…though it might be why the JLA got exiled to Detroit without the heavy hitters.&quot;

Quick, someone alert Geoff Johns so he can retcon that before it soils Barry Allen&#039;s saintly reputation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Also, in pre-Crisis JLA Flash(Barry Allen) had a romance going with Zatanna. Meanwhile, in his own book he was engaged to and planning a wedding with Fiona Webb who, as of her wedding day, did not know Barry was Flash. This indescretion was never dealt with in either book…though it might be why the JLA got exiled to Detroit without the heavy hitters."</p>
<p>Quick, someone alert Geoff Johns so he can retcon that before it soils Barry Allen's saintly reputation!</p>
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		<title>By: JB Grantham</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/04/30/comic-book-legends-revealed-205/comment-page-2/#comment-718360</link>
		<dc:creator>JB Grantham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the screen tests for Adam West and Lyle Waggoner for the Batman 60&#039;s tv show, Aunt Harriet is referred to as &quot;our housekeeper, Mrs. Cooper&quot;.  I thought that was interesting, as the show was still in the casting process, and apparently the producers had not yet decided that she would be Dick&#039;s &quot;Aunt Harriet&quot;.  Alfred is not even mentioned in the screen test scene;  it&#039;s possible that Alfred was not a character on the show at this point in production.

For the screen tests, go to http://www.batfriend.com/home.htm, and find the video pages.  Fascinating website!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the screen tests for Adam West and Lyle Waggoner for the Batman 60's tv show, Aunt Harriet is referred to as "our housekeeper, Mrs. Cooper".  I thought that was interesting, as the show was still in the casting process, and apparently the producers had not yet decided that she would be Dick's "Aunt Harriet".  Alfred is not even mentioned in the screen test scene;  it's possible that Alfred was not a character on the show at this point in production.</p>
<p>For the screen tests, go to <a href="http://www.batfriend.com/home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.batfriend.com/home.htm</a>, and find the video pages.  Fascinating website!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long-time reader - just wanted to say the book is awesome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-time reader - just wanted to say the book is awesome</p>
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		<title>By: Squashua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squashua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the prices at comicspriceguide.com compares to #1 ($10), Howard the Duck #2 ($4) is not that rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the prices at comicspriceguide.com compares to #1 ($10), Howard the Duck #2 ($4) is not that rare.</p>
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		<title>By: steven C</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 12:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was that even remotely true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was that even remotely true?</p>
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		<title>By: steven C</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 12:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a kid I ( when I say &quot;I&quot; I mean the gang of kids that used to hang out at the comic store every weekend) was once told by my local comic book store owner that Howard the Duck #2 was rare because a delivery truck carrying thousands of copies got into an accident on the Brooklyn bridge and the copies were destroyed in the resulting fall into the East River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a kid I ( when I say "I" I mean the gang of kids that used to hang out at the comic store every weekend) was once told by my local comic book store owner that Howard the Duck #2 was rare because a delivery truck carrying thousands of copies got into an accident on the Brooklyn bridge and the copies were destroyed in the resulting fall into the East River.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 11:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, at the time Guy Gardner wasn&#039;t the second-string GL, either; he was the official Green Lantern of Earth at the time. (If I recall correctly; I know it changed a lot, back in the day, as there were a lot of things in flux, what with the Guardians going away, coming back, going away, coming back...)

If you look at the characters involved in the initial Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League, almost all of them had their own series at the time. Superman wasn&#039;t in it because of Byrne&#039;s contractual agreement with DC at the time, and Wonder Woman was considered &quot;new&quot; to the DC Universe then, but they had what were considered big names apart from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, at the time Guy Gardner wasn't the second-string GL, either; he was the official Green Lantern of Earth at the time. (If I recall correctly; I know it changed a lot, back in the day, as there were a lot of things in flux, what with the Guardians going away, coming back, going away, coming back...)</p>
<p>If you look at the characters involved in the initial Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League, almost all of them had their own series at the time. Superman wasn't in it because of Byrne's contractual agreement with DC at the time, and Wonder Woman was considered "new" to the DC Universe then, but they had what were considered big names apart from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 09:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kamino;

At the time Giffen&#039;s JL started Blue Beetle and Booster Gold were both headlines as each had thier own monthly series. However, Giffen was not obligated to make them behave the same way they did in thier own books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamino;</p>
<p>At the time Giffen's JL started Blue Beetle and Booster Gold were both headlines as each had thier own monthly series. However, Giffen was not obligated to make them behave the same way they did in thier own books.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamino Neko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamino Neko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 02:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Re: the Avengers: I think a strong writer can do wonders with 2nd-stringers who aren’t constrained by what is happening in their solo title.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Another, perhaps more striking, example is the Giffen/DiMatteis Justice League - initially, all big headliners except Batman and Green Lantern were off-limits, so they deliberately chose a second string Lantern, and made a very good, and very popular, team book composed almost entirely of B and C list characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Re: the Avengers: I think a strong writer can do wonders with 2nd-stringers who aren’t constrained by what is happening in their solo title.</p></blockquote>
<p>Another, perhaps more striking, example is the Giffen/DiMatteis Justice League - initially, all big headliners except Batman and Green Lantern were off-limits, so they deliberately chose a second string Lantern, and made a very good, and very popular, team book composed almost entirely of B and C list characters.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!  I knew the Hall of Justice was based on Union Terminal! I have lived in Cincinnati my whole life and every time i see Union Terminal I tel everyone it looks like the Hall of Justice from Superfriends and they tell me i am crazy....well...i am, but that is beside the point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  I knew the Hall of Justice was based on Union Terminal! I have lived in Cincinnati my whole life and every time i see Union Terminal I tel everyone it looks like the Hall of Justice from Superfriends and they tell me i am crazy....well...i am, but that is beside the point...</p>
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		<title>By: Cej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the Avengers: I think a strong writer can do wonders with 2nd-stringers who aren&#039;t constrained by what is happening in their solo title. Roger Stern&#039;s Avengers are some of my favorites. He made me care about such C-listers as Black Knight, Doctor Driud, and (female) Captain Marvel. He even developed the Wasp from a flighty, annoying character into a strong woman who could lead the Avengers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Avengers: I think a strong writer can do wonders with 2nd-stringers who aren't constrained by what is happening in their solo title. Roger Stern's Avengers are some of my favorites. He made me care about such C-listers as Black Knight, Doctor Driud, and (female) Captain Marvel. He even developed the Wasp from a flighty, annoying character into a strong woman who could lead the Avengers.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kamino:

Clearly, Dick ended up with Bruce because Bruce was filthy-stinkin&#039; rich!  Once Aunt Harriet discovered this she jumped on the ole gravy train (the old gold-digger).  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamino:</p>
<p>Clearly, Dick ended up with Bruce because Bruce was filthy-stinkin' rich!  Once Aunt Harriet discovered this she jumped on the ole gravy train (the old gold-digger).  <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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