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A Year of Cool Comic Book Moments – Day 152

Here is the latest cool comic book moment in our year-long look at one cool comic book moment a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Appropriately enough, today we look at perhaps my favorite moment in 52!

Enjoy!

Okay, so as 52 Week 46, Black Adam’s family has just been murdered by the Four Horseman (created by the evil super scientists on Oolong Island) and he is now coming to get his revenge. Professor Veronica Cale was the main person in charge of the development of the Four Horsemen, so she has a particularly tough reaction to the situation.

What a great last panel.

In the future, I’ll show what happens when Black Adam reaches the scientists!

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I never understood why Black Adam just ran past her? Did he not believe her? Not hear her? Was he planning to return for her?

He probably didn’t want to give her what she wanted.

Tom Fitzpatrick

June 2, 2009 at 3:06 am

Or he didn’t care.

Morrow bidding on Reddy online is just too cool for words. The whole mad scientist rumble on Oolong Island was the funniest part of 52.

I’m going to guess that the speech that Cale gives to Will before banging him was written by Morrison. Talk about foreshadowing…

David Hackett

June 2, 2009 at 5:01 am

This was one of the best parts of 52 (shame it led into one of the worst parts: WWIII). Three different moments I picked out of this one:
– Cale laying out Final Crisis a year or so ahead of time (and tying into Seven Soldiers).
– Sivana’s feet up on the desk while everyone else loses it.
– The last sequence where Cale’s revealed to be as insignificant as she feared she was.

Plenty of other great 52 moments if this were to go on for a whole week.

52 was at times brilliant, at times unbearably awful.

The worst part f it all was that at the end of the 52 weeks, DC buried all of the amazing things to come out of it.

Why O Why did Countdown have to be so awful? I read this Morrison foreshadowing and find myself imagining a year of actual build-up that actually matched up with what Morrison was doing.

I’d go with Black Adam being an Ancient Egyptian an just presuming the men were responsible.

I’d say Sivana and Morrow were the winners here. Everyone else is panicking. Morrow doesn’t care and Sivana knows there’s no point in fighting.

Citizen Scribbler

June 2, 2009 at 8:19 am

It’s weird, though. Black Adam indiscriminately murders every man, woman and child in Bialya, so I still don’t get why he’d leave her alive either. The Bialya massacre was a really bad idea. That country was a great setting for lots of stories, and now I can’t understand how Black Adam seems to have been pardoned. He’s a mass murderer, people! He deserves to be executed- but, in Final Crisis, there he is, parlaying with the rest of the Marvel Family as if that never happened.

-Citizen Scribbler

I thought it would be revealed that Black Adam didn’t actually kill all the people in Bialya. That it was the Horsemen or someone else, but he felt responsible and that’s why he never denies it. But as far as I know that didn’t happen, and BA is considered the actual killer of millions of people. Kind of hard to redeem him after that.

Why in the WORLD did she carry a gun?

he was moving so fast blinded by vengence that he figured veronica was not worthy of his attention that and he proably did not hear her say she was the one who killed his family.

I’m with chad. Marvels don’t have super-hearing and she didn’t pose any kind of a threat. Maybe he figured he’d deal with her after shutting down all the mad-science gadgets.

Citizen Scribbler

June 2, 2009 at 1:01 pm

In that case, the scene might have worked a little better if, while storming past her he said- “What was that?!?” and she’s just like- “Nothing. Carry on…” . Or not…

-Citizen Scribbler

No, that would have gelded it. Instead of having her sense of responsibility deflated by the external force she was seeking to have validated it, she would have simply decided to hide from her responsibility at the last minute. Adam denying her the grandiose death she was looking for is a much more powerful moment than her denying it to herself.

The scene’s not about Adam; it’s about Dr. Cale.

I think she used the gun to kill the guard at the door in the first panel of the last page.

This issue is an amazing one. The moment you say you’ll be showing us next is my favorite from the world war 3 culmination, where we really see what mad science can do.

And yeah, the Final Crisis foreshadowing in 52 is really quite fun. The sequences with the Crime Bible and manheim we’re great. I remember one moment where the narration describes Darkseid and it’s just so much spookier than the ordinary way you would think about him. I forget how it went, something about a dark angel and a face of living granite?

I was wondering when 52 would get some time devoted to it. I also love the sequence where Buddy is talking about his big existential encounters from his former series, and how that scene plus the one where he learns to use the sun eaters and travel back to Earth, are almost word for word Morrison’s experiences in Kathmandu. But even better than that commentary is how Starfire rebuttals the entire thing and tries to frame Buddy’s perspective.

Best line of that sequence:

“…Where are my insectrons???”

Boy, can I relate! Not a day goes by that I don’t misplace my insectrons.

This was funny . This was good. No way am I going to try and collect 52. Thanks for the glimpse.

a little off topic, but can someone please explain to me the whole mark of cain thing from Final Crisis and how it relates to vandal savage?

I’m guessing it wasn’t something integral to FC proper, Geoff. It seemed like it was kind of tacked on to the whole Renee plot. That entire mini did, actually. It wasn’t bad, but it really doesn’t have much of anything to do with Final Crisis.

I’m on Week 51 day 3 right now so this is still fresh for me. God stuff.

Until something says definitively otherwise I’m going with the theory that Black Adam didn’t kill everyone in Bialya

Citizen Scribbler

June 3, 2009 at 6:14 am

It’s ok, Michael. Calm down. It was a J-O-K-E. I wouldn’t have really changed the scene that way.

I’m a way better writer than that. At least I’d better hope so, seeing as how I make a living off of it these days.

And DanCJ? That’s some pretty specious reasoning right there. They said they he killed them all right in the book! In several books! We saw all the bodies! People have mentioned since then the devastation and deaths in Bialya! How much more proof do you need? Don’t deny the Bialya Holocaust just because you’re fond of Talky Tawny The Tiger. ;)

-Citizen Scribbler

The book never said he killed them. The book just had people saying he killed them. It also had at least one character convinced it was one of the four horsemen who did it. Considering that the book never definitively answered the question, it’s still open. (unless it was definitively answered in the World War III mini)

I never believed Spoiler was dead either.

Citizen Scribbler

June 8, 2009 at 8:42 am

If everyone in the country actually IS dead, which they are, that’s some pretty damning evidence, I’d say. I think the book does show us him actually killing Bialyian people, but I haven’t been back to look in a while since it’s such a poorly written segment.

-Citizen Scribbler

It’s not damning evidence. We see him kill some leaders, but not the innocent people. We know they’re dead, but there is no real evidence that he actually did it.

Citizen Scribbler

June 9, 2009 at 7:05 am

How do you know those leaders weren’t innocent? By your own logic, since we never saw them actually do anything, they must be innocent. Therefore, when Black Adam killed them, which we saw, he was killing innocent people. That may not prove the Biaylian holocaust (despite all the witnesses you refuse to believe), but people have gotten the chair for killing less than a room full a people. Black Adam still deserves to die for his crimes. But the point is- it never should have been written that way in the first place. If you want someone to be a hero tomorrow, it is unwise to allow them to commit atrocities today…

There were witnesses, everybody says he did it, and he’s never denied it. I know you’re holding out for a Paralax solution, and it may happen someday and, for your sake, hope it does. But, as far as the DC universe currently stands, Black Adam is a genocidal maniac. I want Ted Kord to be alive again, but I waited until the time stream was screwed with by Rip and Booster before insisting that he probably wasn’t dead anymore.

-Citizen Scribbler

How do you know those leaders weren’t innocent? By your own logic, since we never saw them actually do anything, they must be innocent.

They might be, but they’re not the genocide we’re talking about.

Black Adam still deserves to die for his crimes.

Personally I don’t agree with capital punishment so no he doesn’t.

There were witnesses, everybody says he did it, and he’s never denied it.

There were? I thought everyone who could have witnessed it was dead?

Citizen Scribbler

June 10, 2009 at 4:04 am

It was viewed from afar, via satellite, super-vision, etc…

His murder of the generals certainly evidences a propensity for mass murder and genocide. What you’re suggesting is that, between those gruesome killings and the Biaylian genocide, he changed his mind on the subject.

Even if you don’t believe that a criminal who’s been murdering people for years and has the power of a Superman should be put down, it certainly doesn’t mean that he should be welcomed back into the superhero community.

Also, if Black Adam hadn’t killed all of those people why, then, were his divine powers removed from him?

-Citizen Scribbler

“Also, if Black Adam hadn’t killed all of those people why, then, were his divine powers removed from him?”

His powers weren’t removed. The gods laughed at Captain Marvel when he asked them to remove Black Adam’s powers. Cap changed Adam’s magic word so he wouldn’t know how to activate his powers.

It was viewed from afar, via satellite, super-vision, etc…

Was it? I don’t remember that being stated

His murder of the generals certainly evidences a propensity for mass murder and genocide. What you’re suggesting is that, between those gruesome killings and the Biaylian genocide, he changed his mind on the subject.

Erm…no. I’m saying that he’s perfectly happy to murder those he considers responsible such as the generals, but he might draw the line at the civilians who had nothing to do with it (and yes I am aware that some or most of those generals might have had nothing to do with it too)

Even if you don’t believe that a criminal who’s been murdering people for years and has the power of a Superman should be put down, it certainly doesn’t mean that he should be welcomed back into the superhero community.

I never said it did.

Citizen Scribbler

June 11, 2009 at 5:48 am

Ah, but MY point was that he shouldn’t be welcomed back into the superhero community.

I do recall it being mentioned several times that he was seen killing civilians.

And my other point about the powers being removed still stands. Changing the magic word and it being Captain Marvel who did it doesn’t change the reasons behind it- the Biaylian genocide.

-Citizen Scribbler

In that case I agree with your point. Black Adam was out of control and slaughtered people nastily and that in itself is enough reason to take away his powers.

I do recall it being mentioned several times that he was seen killing civilians.

You might be right on this. I read the books about a week ago and I don’t remember any concrete eye-witnesses to that happening. It looked more like a case of people putting two and two together to reach that assumption – with the comic seemingly going out of its way to avoid actually showing it.

Entertainer13

July 25, 2009 at 7:44 am

Best part of the whole sequence for me is always Sivana… but I’m a Marvel Family ham, so there you go.

This scene seems to have a lot of Morrison tics. Boy, DC editorial screwed up, didn’t they? Noone bothered to ask what all those hints were? If they did, they would’ve known, and we wouldn’t have had the continuity mess/fiasco of Countdown/Death of the New Gods/Final Crisis…

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