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Paging Jedi Master Baytes…

So, I was doing a bit the other week about the somewhat salacious origin of the name of the rock group The Lovin’ Spoonful, and it made me think about mainstream comic books, and whether there are examples of writers doing the same thing with comic book characters, similar to the Jedi Master Baytes from the Star Wars comics (that was never intended to actually make it past editorial).

So, can you think of any examples like that in comics? And I mean in places where they would stand out if known, not humor comics like Hitman or even Preacher. I mean places like typical superhero comics or the aforementioned Star Wars – real mainstream stuff.

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Wasn’t being tormented by school bullies and called Master Bates, the thing that sent Kid Marvelman (AKA Kid Miracleman) over the edge?

@Gopher: I think it was the raping, rather than taunting, by said bullies that set him off…

Didn’t somebody actually introduce a character named “Clint Flicker” once?

And I don’t know if it would qualify, but there was a villainess in a couple issues of Young Justice called “The Mighty Endowed,” whose power was basically that she had hypnotically huge, er, tracts of land (so large, in fact, that she couldn’t stand up without some external means of support).

Not comic related…but on the subject of dodgy names…what about the film “Young Man with a Horn,” with Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall and Doris Day? I don’t think it would be given the same title today if it were to be remade!!!!!

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 1, 2009 at 2:39 pm

In an ostensibly serious (even grim ‘n’ gritty) crossover between their books, Luke Cage, Terror, Inc., and Silver Sable battled…Priapus, the Greco-Roman god of big erections. He was trying to obtain the power of…wait for it…the Carnal Serpent.

There was the famous Captain America ‘WANK’ sound-effect, though that would be meaningless to non-Brits…

Sodam Yat may count.

I think it was Mark Millar that came up with clint flicker but I may be wrong.

Sodam Yat totally counts!

Doing a little research, I don’t think it was Millar. It was probably the fact that I first saw the clint flicker idea at his message board that got me confused.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 1, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Another one I’d forgotten — Gerry Conway named a one-off villain in Marvel Team-Up #31-2 Dr. Ludwig von Schtupf. For those who aren’t Jewish (or haven’t seen Blazing Saddles), “schtupf” is basically the F-bomb.

Annoyed Grunt

June 1, 2009 at 5:10 pm

Does “Giant Sized Man-Thing” count?

There was a demon called “Master Baytor” in Hitman.

I find this kind of in-jokes stupid. It’s like the writers are going “yuk-yuk-yuk I slipped a bad word past the editors (and many readers)!” Yeah, that’s mature. Try an obscure historical or literary reference, then I’ll impressed.

Stephane Savoie

June 1, 2009 at 8:55 pm

There was a 90s Green Lantern villain named FLICKER. And, yes, the ink in my issue ran slightly, and every time I saw him name I did a double-take.
And let’s not forget the Spider-Man villain The Shocker.

I’m not sure if non-Europeans got it, but the name “Ebeneezer Badde” in Morrison’s Klarion the Witchboy miniseries is a reference to this song:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebeneezer_Goode

…which itself is a drug pun referring to Ecstacy (“E’s are good”). So basically “Ebeneezer Badde” = “E’s are bad”. Which is kinda odd, as it doesn’t seem to fit Morrison’s general stance on drugs, nor does the pun have anything to do with the character.

MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE: THING AND MAN-THING for the win.

I have a feeling this is exactly what you’re looking for:

Archie Meets Goatse:
http://www.the-isb.com/?p=1539

SFW, I swear.

“And I don’t know if it would qualify, but there was a villainess in a couple issues of Young Justice called “The Mighty Endowed,” whose power was basically that she had hypnotically huge, er, tracts of land (so large, in fact, that she couldn’t stand up without some external means of support).”

Ah, that famous David wit.

I read every issue of Demon and Hitman, but I don’t remember them ever using the word Master in front of Baytor’s name. I think it was always just left out there like the second shoe that never drops.

And I totally don’t get the Sodam Yat joke. Is he from New Orleans?

There was that one-off villain in Web of Spider-Man. A Daily Bugle staffer named Hugh G. Rexion became supervillain the Hungman. Diamond hard with an array of trick nooses and lariats (electrical, heat, cold, etc.) Cool villain, but lost his powers and went soft after letting off one final blast of energy. Very unsatisfying issue.

sodamy

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 2, 2009 at 2:25 pm

I remember the Hungman, T. He wasn’t a one-off, as he later returned as one of the Domination League in an issue of one of the failed New Warriors revivals. The other members were the Cougar, the Ringer, and Gamecock.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 2, 2009 at 2:31 pm

And an example I can’t think of as unintentional was the arc and later TPB, Moon Knight: The Bottom.

Sodam Yat doesn’t sound like Sodomy to me. Now, if they had called him Sodom Ee, then it would’ve worked.

At first I thought Sodam Yat was supposed to be a pun on “sodomite”, but I can’t think of any dialect where you’d pronounce it like that. Maybe it really was unintentional.

In my head, Sodam Yat always sounded like “So damn, yat!” like so damn what…

Though I get the “Sodomy at…” I think that may be people reading too much into it…

“Clint” was always dodgy in the badly printed era… Especially when shouted…

Wasn’t it banned for years along with a number of other words in case of prnter/letterer accidents? LIke flick?

Hand down the best unitentional example of this is NOVA the human rockets alter ego

Richard Rider….or Dick Rider to his reeeeeeeeeeeal good friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i win …..

There was a female version of MODOK called SODAM (Special Organism Designed for Aggressive Manuevers), who was later changed to MODAM, presumably because the original name sounded too suggestive.

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