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Whatever You Think About Captain America: Reborn…

The first issue has three pretty cool covers (all these courtesy of the piece up on CBR right now where Joe Quesada talks about Captain America: Reborn #1 with Jonah Weiland and Kiel Phegley).

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41 Comments

No, it has two cool covers and a pic of Cap taking a shit

It’s funny, with the Quesada interview AND DC solicits going up, CBR must be getting barraged with traffic right now.

Dave pretty much nailed it. The Q one is lame, especially considering how dumb it’ll look as a cover since you’ll only see half of it (assuming it’s a wrap-around).

Christ, can Joe Quesada ever do “understated”?

I mean, right after wasting all that time on his Spider Man cover with a damn coffee house logo, now Cap taking an inordinately strenuous bowel movement? Bah. Pure pap.

I hope he’s taking a shit on Red Skull’s face

“No, it has two cool covers and a pic of Cap taking a shit”

Don’t be gross. He’s passing a kidney stone.

I’ll be getting this in trade, like all of Brubaker’s Cap, but if I had to pick, I’d go with Cassaday’s. Hell, I kinda wish he was drawing the series.

Duff Mcwhalen

June 15, 2009 at 2:43 pm

I really like the Quesada cover. Especially since it doesn’t feel like an image I’ve seen before.

Duff Mcwhalen

June 15, 2009 at 2:44 pm

not that the other two are bad.

I think the first one is good. Quesada’s one is strange, he did one like it on one the Wolverine:Origins books that was way better. It was Wolverine close up beyond the borders of the cover. Same basic idea, except Cap is knealing here for some reason. Alex Ross’ one is strange, but given the super heroes he worships I’ll skip it. Is cap exploding there or something?

The Ugly American

June 15, 2009 at 3:02 pm

It’s like he’s stretching in one pic with all this radiation shooting from his crotch, and in another, he’s squatting to take a dump.

Great job, artists!

The Ugly American

June 15, 2009 at 3:03 pm

And great job to you too, ME, for checking to see if anyone else pointed it out.

You guys already caught the poo-action, but still suffice to say radiation-crotch-man is still a little weird.

The Ugly American

June 15, 2009 at 3:05 pm

And Dr. Light is standing behind Cap in the other pic, giving him a full Dibny.

The phrase “full Dibny” makes me uncomfortable on many levels, yet I can’t seem to stop laughing.

Captain America might be kept young on the outside from the Super Soldier Serum, but he’s still an old man inside, especially in the bowels and prostate…

“And Dr. Light is standing behind Cap in the other pic, giving him a full Dibny.”

Well now that’s just wrong.

CBR has been keeping me busy all day with so many news. I’ll need to get back to the real world eventually.

As for the covers, I would have liked something by John Romita Sr. instead of these three.

Mr. Cronin, did you ever post the guide you mentioned as in progress in Comic Book Legends Revealed #186 that would show us various album covers drawn by comic artists?

Hey, now….we’re not allowed to be anti-Quesada on this site any more, folks……the man has a column here now :)

Mr. Cronin, did you ever post the guide you mentioned as in progress in Comic Book Legends Revealed #186 that would show us various album covers drawn by comic artists?

I don’t think you’d be surprised to know that said guide is extremely large. :)

So it’ll be up eventually, but it’ll take awhile.

Maybe I should do some sort of limitation on how “big” of a name you have to be for me to count?

I should mention that I’ve really liked Joe Q’s Spidey covers, but there’s no denying that the pose of this Cap figure is more than a little perplexing…..I do like where his style has gone to otherwise, tho.

Wow, I thought Cap was taking a knee from a Ball shot. I guess I missjudged poop face for “ouch my nuts!” face.

I guess I’m in the minority: I really like the Quesada cover. The first to images looks like your generic Captain America cover. Plus Quesada seems to downplay the silly scale mail look in favor of the classic “chainmail under the tights look.”

The Ross cover is absolute CRAP! What happened Alex, tight deadline? Attend too many anarchist rallies this week? Get too caught up in worshiping Obama as the second coming? I think Cap in Queseda’s cover is having an explosive bowel reaction to the to white piece of toilet paper preceding it.

OK, that’s it; I’m using my last initial from now on so people don’t confuse me with that guy.

I like the Ross cover. It’s like the reverse of the cover for the first chapter of RIP. Neat.

“Don’t be gross. He’s passing a kidney stone.”

BELIEVE ME, that is not how you pass a kidney stone.

“…except Cap is knealing here…”

IT’S ‘KNEELING’, but he isn’t kneeling, he’s squatting.

“…I thought Cap was taking a knee from a Ball shot.’

NO, HE obviously isn’t on either knee.

“…giving him a full Dibny.”

OH, SO wrong, yet, oh, so funny.

Picture #1: Prince Adam transforms into Captain America. “By the power of patriotism…I have the power!”

Picture #2: Captain America leaves his shield inside the Intrinsic Field experiment, with unpredictable results.

Picture #3: Captain America really needs to stop eating at Taco Bell.

I like Quesada’s cover. It’s an unusual pose, but it’s something we haven’t seen before. The Cassaday and Ross covers look like the usual “inspirational and iconic” poses that show up every other cover that they do. Not so much Cassaday, but this doesn’t stand out much from the other covers he’s done for Captain America in the past.

” I like Quesada’s cover. It’s an unusual pose, but it’s something we haven’t seen before. The Cassaday and Ross covers look like the usual “inspirational and iconic” poses that show up every other cover that they do. Not so much Cassaday, but this doesn’t stand out much from the other covers he’s done for Captain America in the past. ”

Quesada’s cover is the most appropriate, because it looks like Steve’s getting up from a really bad fall, mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. My only complaint is that Quesada draws Cap’s shirt as very fine fish scale mesh, instead of the more pronounced segments he’s had since Cassaday drew him. The pronounced chain mail made Cap’s costume go from generic superhero to awesome super-soldier, so I don’t like it when it’s removed.

What, no Kirby cover?

How many time HAS Steve “come back” since he died, anyway? There was the Grand Director, the Invaders . . . surely there must have been a Skrull one at some point in Secret Invasion, yeah?

oh yeah, definitely a Skrull Cap early on in the series.

I like the Joey Q cover. It reminds me of Arnie’s first appearance in Terminator!

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 16, 2009 at 8:16 am

My only complaint is that Quesada draws Cap’s shirt as very fine fish scale mesh, instead of the more pronounced segments he’s had since Cassaday drew him. The pronounced chain mail made Cap’s costume go from generic superhero to awesome super-soldier, so I don’t like it when it’s removed.

I’m generally of the opposite opinion — Cassaday’s scale-mail always made less visual sense to me, since it seemed like it should be restricting Cap’s movements tremendously. Not to mention that you’d think people would be shredding their hands trying to punch him.

The Joe Q cover depicts Captain America crapping out Marvels ideas for next years titles. They feed him a steady diet of old Marvel titles and he shits out ideas like re-dos of the clone saga and armor wars, not to mention the entire line of ultimate titles. Does Marvel do anything original anymore?

so was cap actually dead
im getting a little confused

“I’m generally of the opposite opinion — Cassaday’s scale-mail always made less visual sense to me, since it seemed like it should be restricting Cap’s movements tremendously. Not to mention that you’d think people would be shredding their hands trying to punch him. ”

My defense of it is more on the Rule of Cool than the inherent practicality– the thin, faint fish scales of the older Cap designs may have been more practical, but they didn’t add much to the visual look. It’s already impractical for Cap to be wearing bright red, white, and blue into battle; since we’re going with the paradigm that he’s already audacious, why not play it up and make it look like he’s wearing armor instead of tights?

See also; the reason I prefer Ultimate Mjolnir to the original hammer, why I like Batman having the bulky Frank-Miller pockets on his utility belt over the thin cylinders of old, and why I loathe when Iron Man is drawn in shiny tights instead of more pronounced plate mail. They’re already fantastical, so they could at least be visually impressive when doing so.

Quesada really likes drawing foreheads, huh? He’s always drawing the top of Spider-Man’s head, the top of Daredevil’s head, or the top of Captain America’s head.

Maybe the next event should be “Marvel Fiveheads”.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 17, 2009 at 5:42 am

It’s already impractical for Cap to be wearing bright red, white, and blue into battle; since we’re going with the paradigm that he’s already audacious, why not play it up and make it look like he’s wearing armor instead of tights?

Isn’t some of Cap’s Cool down to the idea of a guy who can fight gods and monsters with nothing but an impossible shield and his sheer toughness? To me, armoring Cap up makes him seem less amazing and increasingly obviates the need for that shield. It seems less to me like an audacious fantasy than the direct opposite of that — a misguided notion of what he’d “really” need to wade into combat. Ditto Batman’s belt pouches; it’s less impressive to me to see him with a big ol’ toolbelt than was the 1970s notion that Bruce Wayne’s money and Batman’s gadgets were so sleek and micro that he’d gotten around the need for oceans of storage space. Isn’t Batman more a stealth character than anything? A smaller, sleeker belt and the idea of stuff like little gas vials and collapsible boomerangs or microelectronics seems cooler to me.

the reason I prefer Ultimate Mjolnir to the original hammer,

Ad as when we’ve discussed this before, I find it especially annoying. It works if you buy into “bigger = better,” but the mythological Mjolnir was supposed to have an unusually short handle for a war-hammer. It’s why, prior to Ultimate Thor, pretty much any depiction of any Thor adaptation or universe-insertion anywhere has a short-handled hammer; the idea isn’t that the hammer is a Big Freakin’ Gun for the Bronze Age warrior, but that Thor’s so damn powerful and so damn tough that Loki’s sabotage of the hammer’s forging doesn’t matter. Dude’s a god, and the hammer’s a magical weapon — all giving it a shorter handle does is inspire him to chuck the thing at your head instead of bringing it down like a sledge.

It’s also about Thor not needing the safe distance a long-handled warhammer gives you in a battle; he just wades in and stands right there, either soaking up or not caring about getting hurt in melees, being a berserker in battle. The whole notion of Thor using the classic Mjolnier — “classic” here not merely meaning “Silver Age” — is that much is revealed about his insane bravery or battle-madness. He’s scary or tough or impressive because he’s using a weapon that looks suboptimal at first glance. Then he calls down lightnign with it and caves in your skull anyway.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

June 17, 2009 at 5:44 am

To clarify with a modern comics example, what’s cooler: Bullseye killing people with a machine gun, or Bullseye killing people with an innocuous or less-than-suited improvised weapon? It’s not about the hammer seeming powerful, it’s about the guy wielding it seeming skilled and ridiculously dangerous.

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