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Random Thoughts! (June 16, 2009)
- by Chad Nevett
- in Random Thoughts
Last week's edition was all kinds of big with around twenty of my musings on things no one else cares about, so I'm betting this week's will be even bigger. Although probably not. *shrugs* Whatever. It's random thoughts time! Get excited!
Random Thought! While I respect and admire Jason Aaron for trying to come up with a reason for why Wolverine is always so busy, his explanation that it's because Logan is too afraid to be alone with his thoughts now that he remember his entire past doesn't really explain anything prior to a few years ago. Why was he so busy in the '90s? Hmm?
Random Thought! Despite being Canadian, I've read very few Alpha Flight comics and have almost no affection for the property.
Random Thought! Last week's beginning to the "Deadpool: Dial R for Retard" series idea I had once amused some and offended many. This week, I present the rest of it... MINUS the two six-part "Deadpool Sex Slave Search" storyarcs. They're in very, very poor taste (although I do like a couple of the titles in the first one). I'll sum them up quick: the first has Deadpool hitting on six women from the Marvel Universe; the second is Spider-Man themed because Deadpool thinks he stole his costume design or some other lame reason. But, whatever, on with the rest of the plots!
Issue 12: The sixth story is double-sized and called “The Punisher Is A Fucking Pussy Douchebag!” and is about what happens when Deadpool is hired by the mafia to assassinate the Punisher.
Issue 13: The seventh story is called “Professional (Or, How Mr. Fantastic Hired Deadpool To Assassinate Deadpool)” and is about how after their recent encounter, Deadpool has replaced Namor in Sue Richards’ little flirty threats to Reed. So, Reed decides to hire Deadpool to assassinate himself. Deadpool, of course, takes the job and sets about killing himself. This proves difficult at first because of his healing factor, but eventually he does succeed and kill himself.
Issue 14: The eighth story is called “20 Pages Of Deadpool In A Coma After He Comes Back To Life In The First Two” and is about just what the title says.
Issue 15: The ninth story is called “I Want My Money, Bitch!” and features Deadpool getting out of his coma and going after Reed Richards to get his fucking money, because he did the job. Reed never said no resurrections.
Issue 28: The tenth story is called “Issue Twenty-Eight” and has Deadpool being sent to the future by Reed Richards. He arrives in issue twenty-eight to find that he isn’t on Earth anymore and no one knows where he’s gone. Except now they think that he’s back, so he tries to go and get his money again, which this Reed Richards has no problem giving him as he managed to make a shitload in the time year that’s passed since he sent Deadpool into the future and the story continues from there, in the future.
Issue 29: The eleventh story is called “Deadpool Tries To Kill His Kid Again But The Little Brat Won’t Go Down” and has Deadpool trying to kill his kid again, who can now talk and walk and shit. Introducing, the Merc With A Mouth Jr. and the return of Widdle Wade!
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Issue 36: The thirteenth story is double-sized and called “Wolverine For A Day!” and is about Deadpool and Wolverine being forced to switch places for a day. Wackiness ensues as Wolverine is hired to kill Professor Xavier by Magneto and Deadpool is forced to teach a bunch of young mutants about saving people and shit. At the end of the issue, Deadpool is sent back to the time of issues fifteen/sixteen where he left by . . . Deadpool! He’s been around the whole time and has been influencing events like a master manipulator because, well, he’s already lived through it once. But how? Why?
Issues 16-27: The fourteenth story is a 12-part, one-year arc called “Exiled On Marvel Street” where Deadpool becomes a member of an Exiles team that’s made up of just alternate versions of Deadpool. There are four other versions of himself, including one that is basically exactly like him (which will confuse both the readers and the artist), a version of him where he was never in the Weapon X program and is a normal human being, a version where he’s a cyborg killing machine, a version where he’s a pacifist superhero and a version where . . . he has no sense of humour! Every issue is a one-off story where they arrive in a new reality at the beginning and leave at the end, off for their next adventure. At the end of it all, it’s revealed that the man behind it all was Beak who just didn’t know what to do in order to fix things in the multiverse.
Issue 37: The fifteenth story is called “And Now Back To Our Scheduled Program . . .” and picks up just after Deadpool sent himself back in time. Deadpool is hired to kill the President of the United States, but must make it look like the entire Cabinet killed him Julius Caesar style. Luckily, thanks to his recent trip through the multiverse, Deadpool has the gift of telepathy, but he also has no control over reading minds and may just go insane!
Issues 38-39: The sixteenth story is a two-parter called “‘Insane In The Membrane’ Is A Song That I Can’t Get Out Of My Fucking Head! GAH! Make It Stop!” and has Deadpool committed to a psych ward because he hears voices. His telepathy wears off by the end of the first part, so Deadpool now has to find a way to escape from the home for the criminally insane, which was built to house the most dangerous psychos in the world.
Issues 40-45: The seventeenth story is a six-parter called “Fugitive Protection Program” where Deadpool must live as a redneck in Georgia until the heat over his escape dies down. Finally, a story where Deadpool is the smartest one in our cast of characters!
Issues 46-48: The eighteenth story is a three-parter called “Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect Two Hundred Dollars” and has Deadpool put in prison after he gets caught in issue 45. The story culminates to his execution in issue 48 where they literally have to keep killing him because he keeps coming back to life until it’s suggested by Reed Richards that he just be sent to another dimension where he’ll never escape from.
Issue 49: The nineteenth story is called “Things To Do In Dimension X When You’re Bored To Death” and has Deadpool on a zombie-infested Earth in Dimension X having the time of his life until he gets bored with killing.
Issue 50: The twentieth story is a hundred-paged issue called “100 Pages Of Solitude” and has Deadpool all alone on Earth in Dimension X after killing all of the zombies. An in-depth look inside Deadpool to figure out exactly what makes him tick. We delve deep down below the surface, look at his past, and the point where he goes insane and then beyond insane. Or just 100 pages of Deadpool sitting on top of a few zombies, quite bored. This is where Deadpool changes. He shifts from being a comedian to just being deadly and brutal. This shift will best be seen in the following story and relaunch of the series.
Issues 51-54: The twenty-first story is called “Dr. Deadpool” and has Deadpool rescued by Dr. Doom, so he can use Deadpool to kill Reed Richards. Once back on Earth, Deadpool sends Dr. Doom back to Dimension X and takes over as ruler of Latveria. He rules with an iron fist, often walking the streets killing random people, until Silver Sable and her group is hired to depose him. They fight and shit, and it ends with Deadpool killing Silver Sable and taking over her group of mercenaries. Issue 54 is also the last issue of the book, which becomes Deadpool & The Kill Squad after this, starting again from issue 1.
Oh, where to start... Notice how in issue 14 I totally forgot that my plan was to have each issue be 11 pages... While I like the title "Wolverine for a Day," I wish I'd thought up the title "Weapon X-Over" for that issue. I still love the title "Exile on Marvel St." Yes, I know Exiles did a story with a whole team of Logans, but that's boring and obvious. A team of Deadpools? That's... well, slightly less boring and obvious. I do love the scope of that 100-page issue... I have no idea how I would fill it, honestly. Next week, I may post what little I have for "Deadpool & The Kill Squad," but that may offend everyone, because it's very, very bad. What was I thinking?
Random Thought! The CBR countdown and coffee stain all make sense now!
Random Thought! Okay, regarding Alpha Flight (as I wrote that first random thought a few days before this one and it's been on my mind a bit), I know it may seem weird that I've never really dug that book (except for the first year of the Steven Seagle run, which was mostly because of the unique voice/approach he took) and, yet, as I mentioned in a past random thought, I sent in an "Ultimate Alpha Flight" pitch to Epic all those years ago. That seems like a conflict, doesn't it? Not really when you think about what the Ultimate line was meant to be: streamlined versions of those comics that take place in the 21st century. One of the reasons I never dug Alpha Flight is that it never really reflected the Canada that I know, and I've never been one to be impressed just because they mention a city I'm familiar with. I honestly don't know if the book has even been written by a Canadian before (aside from John Byrne, of course... but even what I've read of his run makes me cringe) and I wanted to change that. Mostly by avoiding dumb stereotypes. And tiny guys named Puck. Hell, that's why I even changed the name, because 'Alpha Flight' always seemed... well, awful. A 'flight' is a military unit related to the air force, naval air service, or army air corps. I didn't know that until looking it up whereas most people know what peacekeepers are -- and Canadians in particular have a strong understanding of them and their Canadian origin. Not to go on too much, but I figured I'd clear that up for the two people who put those two random thoughts together and wanted to know what's going on there.
Random Thought! And, apologies to anyone who hates it when I talk about myself here. When it comes my thoughts on reviewing, it's because I'm a pretty self-conscious/self-aware guy who is often thinking about what I do, why I do it, how I do it, etc. I did a post over at GraphiContent on my reviewing habits, getting into the stats of how many reviews I do each month, what the average ratings are, what books get reviewed the most, what publishers... mostly because I'm curious about that stuff. Self-analysis is one of my obsessions. Well, that and this is me talking about comics from my perspective, so the topic of me is bound to come up. But, yeah, if you don't like that, I do try and make these posts varied enough that there's something for everyone.
Random Thought! I've been playing that Civil War Online game when I could this week and, damn, it is some fun stuff. As I mentioned last week, it's a small strategy-type battle game centred around Civil War. You pick a side and then fight battles over territory. There are a few characters that are specific to one side and then a larger pool that are open to both. I'm anti-registration and my most common team is Captain America, Spider-Man, Storm, and Thor. I'm not a fan of non-flyers, non-distance fighters, though that has cost me in a few battles. That said, my record roughly breaks down to a ratio of two wins for every one loss, so I must be doing something right. My favourite battle to date was one where I won with only Spider-Man left with 2 health points (out of 100) left. I recommend checking it out if you didn't last week.
Random Thought! Lou Reed is the coolest man alive. Fact.
Random Thought! Convention season is coming up and I have no plans to go to any for various reason, the main one being that I don't really like conventions. I've been to two: I went to Chicago in 2003 and, then, one in Toronto in 2005. We're dealing with the extremes in the two: the large and small shows. Chicago was a great experience in that it was me taking a bus from London, Ontario to Chicago and sleeping on the couch of a guy I knew through Millarworld. Needless to say that I was a little nervous in case he turned out to be a violent pervert intent on doing unspeakable things to me -- but he wasn't. We made arrangements to meet up with various other Millarworld posters and that was, by far, the best part of the whole trip. Actually, meeting people from the online world is the one and only reason I have at this point for going to conventions (maybe providing CBR some content if they want it being another). I sat through a couple of panels and found them boring; I have little interest in meeting creators as all I have to say is "Hey, I like your work!" and don't care too much about autographs or sketches; buying books is nice, but I can do that at home...
The second con was with a friend and his girlfriend (who met up with a friend of hers and left us to the convention) and was smaller in scope. That one was cool since I had just gotten a position at my university's paper as one of the Arts & Entertainment editors, so I managed to get myself a press pass, and did a couple of interviews (B. Clay Moore and Chip Zdarsky) for the paper. Yes, I have met and talked with Chip Zdarsky. Now, he was a violent pervert intent on doing unspeakable things to me, but I stayed on the convention floor in plain sight, ignoring his suggestions that we go somewhere "more private" to talk. And while I enjoyed that experience, too, it didn't thrill me too much. I did get to sit in on a Warren Ellis panel, though, which was great. I also got him to sign my copy of Come in Alone (one of the few autographs I actually ever wanted).
But, ultimately, cons just don't appeal to me except for meeting people I know from online. I know I want to attend the New York one at some point for the sole purpose of meeting Tim Callahan, but that's about it.
Random Thought! Hey, look! Steve Rogers is coming back! The most obvious pay-off to this huge build-up! Definitely worth alienating retailers, Marvel!
Random Thought! That's not a slight against Ed Brubaker as his Captain America work has been great and I have complete faith that this story will be great, too. I actually found it interesting to see Tom Brevoort say that the original plan was to bring Rogers back around issue 30 of Captain America, but they pushed it back when they saw how popular the story was. See? It was already planned, so I'm trying to ignore all of the Marvel media hype crap surrounding this and just enjoy the story.
Random Thought! Spider-Clone book! Spider-Clone book! I'm gonna read the hell out of that Spider-Clone book! YAY! *does a little happy dance*
- Posted on June 16, 2009 @ 02:00 PM






39 Comments
Greg Burgas
June 16, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I think you meant to write, "I know I want to attend the San Diego one at some point for the sole purpose of meeting Greg Burgas, but that’s about it." Yeah, that's it.
Michael P.
June 16, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Not being into Alpha Flight just shows that you have taste and a sense of discernment.
Cass
June 16, 2009 at 2:25 pm
YES!!! I thought I was gonna lose it, since nobody on the entire Internets has said mum about this phenomenal oddity! And it's written by Howard Mackie, no less. HOWARD MUTHA FUCKIN MACKIE! That's sooo terrible, this is gonna be a train wreck which ten years from now they'll need another mini to explain/retcon (written Terry Kavanagh, of course), but still, it's gonna be the greatest thing. I hope they release some with hologram covers.
Adam
June 16, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Interesting. I've gotten my Canadian wife to read comics, but she too has little interest in Alpha Flight. She takes some pride in knowing that one of Marvel's top heroes is Canadian, but that's it. I think she is slightly insulted by the original team being so stereotypically Canadian.
Come to think of it, how would we Americans feel if Marvel's premeire team were made up of Captain America, the Texas Twister, the Punisher, Mickey Mouse, Britney Spears, and Shamu the Whale?
Bill Reed
June 16, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Puck is the best member of Alpha Flight.
Neal K
June 16, 2009 at 2:44 pm
"Lou Reed is the coolest man alive. Fact." Did Bob Dylan die and no one told me?
As for your desire to meet Tim Callahan, somehow I pictured the two of you hanging out together all the time. I'm not sure why I would assume you know each other in real life, but for some unknown reason, I did. Somehow I thought of you as the Batman and Robin of the comics blogging world....
Apodaca
June 16, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Those Deadpool pitches are by far, the dumbest, worst, most infantile things I've ever seen on this website.
I'm sure Deadpool fans would have loved them.
Stephen
June 16, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Another Canadian who doesn't care much for Alpha Flight. I think the thing is that Canada's got such a fluid and ever-changing sense of national identity (partially due to our own nature, partially because we're such an immigrant-focused country) that a concept that may have had traction in the late 70s when AF was created is completely foreign to modern Canadians. The idea of a strictly peacekeeping force is an interesting one - a superhero team that can go into places where American teams can't because American teams would be hated by the country's inhabitants - but even then that would be at odds with our current government's view on the issue.
Geez, I could probably write papers on why the concept doesn't work these days. Still, it got us a Byrne art version of Trudeau, and that's not all bad.
Chad Nevett
June 16, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Greg -- Okay, I meant that, too.
Cass -- Yes! And who was the fourth writer at the time? I can't remember! I'm so ashamed.
Bill -- No.
Neal K -- I'll accept that people think it's Bob Dylan, but Lou Reed is cooler.
Stephen -- The concept is fluid and also different in various parts of the country, which I've never seen the book really capture. And, if you look at Canadian military endeavours compared to US military endeavous, a Canadian superhero team SHOULD act differently, especially is government-run. I remember one part of my idea was actually a member nominated by each political party as a sign of unity or some crap like that.
Brian Cronin
June 16, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Tomorrow's Music Legends Revealed has a cool Lou Reed one in it, Chad.
T.
June 16, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Only if Iggy Pop has died and I never heard about it.
Argo Plummer
June 16, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I am an American, never been to Canada, and I love Alpha Flight and own an almost complete run of all four (I believe) series. I am a sucker for 80's John Byrne, although AF is not his best work, I really like James Hudnall's writing (although John Calimee's art is atrocious), I love Steven Seagle, and by that time I might as well own them all. Plus, I don't believe I have paid more than 50 cents for any issue. Yeah, I know they are mostly crappy comics, but I love them all the same. Don't we all have crappy comics in our collection that we love for inexplicable reasons?...OK, maybe just me...don't judge me...
Mike Loughlin
June 16, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Lou Reed's the coolest man alive? Only because Joe Strummer died.
Ultimate Matt
June 16, 2009 at 5:02 pm
You know, I actually thought those deapool pitches were pretty creative. I'd read those. I have a really dumb, lowbrow sense of humor, though.
TimCallahan
June 16, 2009 at 5:31 pm
You could go to San Diego and meet Greg and me simultaneously. Your life would probably just explode.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
June 16, 2009 at 7:33 pm
My only problem with Deadpool is that you miss the obvious when he goes to get the money from Reed - it doesn't reference the classic Power Man story where Cage want his two hundred bucks from Doom, and has to quell a slave uprising to get it.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
June 16, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Lou is still innovating, Iggy is just coasting.
Chad Nevett
June 16, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Brian -- Nice!
Tim -- There are a few big reasons why I wouldn't want to go to San Diego: I don't function well in heat; it's insanely crowded and I hate people; it's expensive. That said, it's on the list of things to do eventually.
FGJ -- When I wrote those ideas out, I didn't know about that Power Man story. The parallels are coincidental. Were I to write the story now, there would be allusions, of course.
Brad Curran
June 16, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Is it wrong that I loved your Deadpool pitches except for the part where he kills Silver Sable? That that was what offended me?
Fabian
June 17, 2009 at 1:25 am
So what's your screen name on Civil War online? I need to challenge you
TOM
June 17, 2009 at 4:46 am
Iggy Pop does car insurance adverts in the UK... tha is not, i repeat NOT cool!
Blackjak
June 17, 2009 at 5:41 am
I agree with TOM... That removed any credibility he had in my eyes...
and as for John Lydon's butter adverts....
Cass
June 17, 2009 at 6:09 am
DeMatteis, the best of the lot, no question, so not surprising he has nothing to do with the new mini. There was also Jurgens on Sensational Spider-Man, whose holographic first issue #0 - a brilliant marketing ploy not far removed from Cap #50 followed by Cap #600 - I own two copies of, one to read and one, of course, to sell. I believe it fetches upwards of 58 cents on eBay.
T.
June 17, 2009 at 6:31 am
Iggy did so much innovating so early he could afford to coast for decades and Lou will still be playing catch up.
He's so cool he can do car insurance ads. That's truly going against the grain and not giving a fuck what people think. I put that in the plus column.
Aaron
June 17, 2009 at 6:48 am
I would read the fuck out of your Deadpool series.
Chad Nevett
June 17, 2009 at 6:55 am
Fabian -- I'm chevett.
Cass -- I remembered that, like, five minutes after I commented.
Oh, and thanks to anyone who said nice things about any of this post. I am a bit worried about those who enthusiastically support that Deadpool stuff, though...
John Cage
June 17, 2009 at 7:32 am
Re: Apodaca -- I've been a fan of Deadpool since finding the fourth issue of the Joe Kelly run at a supermarket back in the day, and I thought those pitches were pretty awful. Not that I don't like some good old stupid humor with Deadpool (the stumbling around with an arrow through his head tickled me) but those outlines are terrible.
By the way, did anyone catch what the name of the Ultimate Alpha Flight team was? I must've missed the earlier mention, and all I can tell from this is that it replaces Flight with Peacekeeper. I'd prefer Marvel keep the name Alpha Flight though for any revamp. Sure it doesn't make sense, but then people have been asking exactly what the Avengers are trying to avenge for years. So long as it sounds good, I suppose. Then again, I am the kind of fan who geeks out when I see towns I recognize get mentioned (I showed all of my friends the Radius handbook entry that revealed he was born in my hometown of Hamilton), so what do I know?
Have a good day.
John Cage
Capt USA
June 17, 2009 at 7:43 am
There are bits and pieces of your Deadpool pitch that would be hilarious, a lot of it is offensive but some of the stuff you have could be so offensive that it has to see print (I'm talking about the trying to kill his own baby from the first few issues, and to do the Reed Richards pitch I could see Deadpool getting a hold of a dimensional spanning device and putting out advertisements in multiple dimensions so that it won't be our Reed Richards doing the hiring, but the concept at it's base makes sense. Of course a dimension jumping Deadpool could be cool on so many levels)
Agree with you on Brubakers Captain America, I love his storyline, but keep hoping at some point in time he realizes that Cap has other enemies besides the Red Skull and Aim. (It's funny someone on here did a review about Captain America and the Mark Gruenwald version, where he claims that you couldn't find an issue of Gruenwalds without mentioning the Serpent Society, well Brubaker has written 50 issues of Captain America and I'm pretty sure the Red Skull has been a force in about 40 of them.
Brud Lee
June 17, 2009 at 8:43 am
Random Thought! The CBR countdown and coffee stain all make sense now!
As does the fact that the section of the website was opened late!
Robin
June 17, 2009 at 10:34 am
T, Lou does music, Iggy Pop's doing car insurance ads in the UK.
Michael M
June 17, 2009 at 10:39 am
I dunno. More with the stupidity and offensiveness? Does this column exist for any particular reason other than so this guy can amaze us with the stuff he thought up ten years ago, possibly while drunk? I was hoping he'd have gotten the point after last week:CBR is not the place for offensive failed comedy... that's Cracked.com. Do we really need a column that revels in painfully juvenile, misogynistic humor? (Not to mention the toilet humor, disrespectful attitude towards the disabled and gays...) Admitting it's stupid and submoronic even as you share it doesn't make it any less unacceptable overall.
What is the point of this column? I could go on my own blogspace and deliver the exact same content, as could any of us, and the only difference is, we wouldn't be backed up by the reputation and resources of CBR. If there's no point other than to fling random stuff at the wall ...
Chad Nevett
June 17, 2009 at 11:18 am
Michael -- What's the point? To entertain, to share, to amuse, to... well, whatever. That it doesn't do those things for you isn't ideal, but I can't expect it to appeal to everyone. Others seem to enjoy it and that's good enough for me. Even the Deadpool stuff gets just as many positive comments as negative...
T.
June 17, 2009 at 11:40 am
Lou can do music from now until the year 2399 and Iggy can die today and Lou will still not catch up in awesomeness.
P. Boz
June 17, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I'm still with you on the Deadpool pitches. I've never even owned a comic with Deadpool in it.
And I'm confused as to why everyone is convinced that people over 50 are the coolest people in the universe.
danjack
June 17, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Hey Chad,
i love your Deadpool stuff, and hope you keep it coming. i would totally read it, but as it will never get published, i will settle for reading your story outlines here. They always make me laugh, because i understand that ITS FANTASY! Please everyone who doesn't like them either stop commenting or just turn your computer off. i don't want you on the same internet as me, as i am a highly discriminating user and those who don't get it make me feel dirty and clammy.
If you disagree with me, you must be wrong. Thanks for coming and please let the door hit you on the ass on your way out!
DFTBA
Apodaca
June 17, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, and Iggy Pop all stopped being cool 30 years ago.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
June 18, 2009 at 12:28 am
Couldn't bring yourself to say it about Bowie though, could you Dan?
Iggy is awesome, it's true, but was hit and miss after the Stooges.
Lou had the Velvet Underground, then his solo stuff - Berlin, inventing heavy metal etc and is still going today.
Iggy's last album had him teaming up with that punk band thhat has the lead guy who was dating Avril Lavigne in it.
If he needs them on HIS album..........
Brad Curran
June 18, 2009 at 11:11 am
"Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, and Iggy Pop all stopped being cool 30 years ago."
Who made you the arbiter of that, exactly? When did that happen? Why was I not informed?
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