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		<title>By: live wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>live wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ ian -

    &quot;You all remember Union, some shitty mid-‘90s superhero that no one remembers.

Ha.

That is a hell of a sentence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ ian -</p>
<p>    "You all remember Union, some shitty mid-‘90s superhero that no one remembers.</p>
<p>Ha.</p>
<p>That is a hell of a sentence."</p>
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		<title>By: steve pugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve pugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chad
tomorrow party was a pretty cool project, i was looking forward to working with Doe, but the financing fell through.
the character designs are still on my website&#039;s gallery, that was the only art work done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chad<br />
tomorrow party was a pretty cool project, i was looking forward to working with Doe, but the financing fell through.<br />
the character designs are still on my website's gallery, that was the only art work done.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I enjoyed Millar’s first arc on the book well enough. Ths second a little less. The third less so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just got annoyed with the characters talking about how much they had changed the entire world by stopping a dictator, whilst they then fought The Avengers, a super villain and a big bad robot and evil versions of themselves.
It was everything we&#039;ve seen before - and I get that was the point, but nothing new and exciting was done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I enjoyed Millar’s first arc on the book well enough. Ths second a little less. The third less so.</p></blockquote>
<p>I just got annoyed with the characters talking about how much they had changed the entire world by stopping a dictator, whilst they then fought The Avengers, a super villain and a big bad robot and evil versions of themselves.<br />
It was everything we've seen before - and I get that was the point, but nothing new and exciting was done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Nevett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Nevett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude -- Thanks.

Chris -- Yeah, Lorcan&#039;s old site for the book... I&#039;ll have to look around it a bit more. What I found funny about the book is that it came out originally as I was finishing high school and I assumed that parts were over my head and here I am, eight years later, far more educated and, no, it&#039;s not over my head, it just doesn&#039;t work.

FGJ -- I never really thought about the unknown writer aspect. I enjoyed Millar&#039;s first arc on the book well enough. Ths second a little less. The third less so. The Authority flirting with their limits became something a weird thing for Wildstorm and one I may get into when I get around to doing one of these posts on The Authority: Revolutions by Ed Brubaker and Dustin Nguyen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude -- Thanks.</p>
<p>Chris -- Yeah, Lorcan's old site for the book... I'll have to look around it a bit more. What I found funny about the book is that it came out originally as I was finishing high school and I assumed that parts were over my head and here I am, eight years later, far more educated and, no, it's not over my head, it just doesn't work.</p>
<p>FGJ -- I never really thought about the unknown writer aspect. I enjoyed Millar's first arc on the book well enough. Ths second a little less. The third less so. The Authority flirting with their limits became something a weird thing for Wildstorm and one I may get into when I get around to doing one of these posts on The Authority: Revolutions by Ed Brubaker and Dustin Nguyen.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the first issue, which scared me away, then grabbed the authority issue and scattered issues from the run in back issue sales.
At a buck an issue it&#039;s a good read, but at full price it asked too much of us - especially from a writer I&#039;d never heard of before.
An established name I may have stuck with, but with a newcomer there was no guarantee of a pay off.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you’ll recall, The Authority #13 was the first issue of Mark Millar’s run on the book with Frank Quitely where the group began applying their ideas more directly on the world, going after dictators and affecting direct change upon the political landscape. It was a natural progression for the book Warren Ellis had written for twelve issues.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If only they&#039;d done it for more than that one issue it would have been a great run...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the first issue, which scared me away, then grabbed the authority issue and scattered issues from the run in back issue sales.<br />
At a buck an issue it's a good read, but at full price it asked too much of us - especially from a writer I'd never heard of before.<br />
An established name I may have stuck with, but with a newcomer there was no guarantee of a pay off.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you’ll recall, The Authority #13 was the first issue of Mark Millar’s run on the book with Frank Quitely where the group began applying their ideas more directly on the world, going after dictators and affecting direct change upon the political landscape. It was a natural progression for the book Warren Ellis had written for twelve issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>If only they'd done it for more than that one issue it would have been a great run...</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Striker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Striker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually re-read this title not too long ago and found that I&#039;ve lost my enjoyment of this title. I think the monthly chats on the old Monarchy forum on the DC message boards helped me with all the all the madness that confused and baffled me.

I also agree that McCrea wasn&#039;t suited for this title, but I&#039;ve never been a fan of his style

I found an old Monarchy fan site that might help when reading this title 
http://members.fortunecity.com/themonarchy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually re-read this title not too long ago and found that I've lost my enjoyment of this title. I think the monthly chats on the old Monarchy forum on the DC message boards helped me with all the all the madness that confused and baffled me.</p>
<p>I also agree that McCrea wasn't suited for this title, but I've never been a fan of his style</p>
<p>I found an old Monarchy fan site that might help when reading this title<br />
<a href="http://members.fortunecity.com/themonarchy/" rel="nofollow">http://members.fortunecity.com/themonarchy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the Monarchy but I just couldn&#039;t make sense of all the madness. Still I couldn&#039;t help but think that I was missing something cool. It was pretty much what I felt reading Vol.3 of the Invisibles.

Great write-up,Chad. You&#039;ve made me interested in re-reading these books again Like you said, you got to respect the ambition despite the flaws</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Monarchy but I just couldn't make sense of all the madness. Still I couldn't help but think that I was missing something cool. It was pretty much what I felt reading Vol.3 of the Invisibles.</p>
<p>Great write-up,Chad. You've made me interested in re-reading these books again Like you said, you got to respect the ambition despite the flaws</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Nevett</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/07/05/reread-reviews-the-monarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-727206</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Nevett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t find a place or reason to discuss Condition Red. That&#039;s a big fault of this title: a lot of characters that don&#039;t do anything beyond serving one specific role. It&#039;s hard to discuss characters like that. I don&#039;t mind that idea, but it doesn&#039;t work as well in a team book...

The defeat of Chimera is a bit too &#039;regular fight scene,&#039; you&#039;re right.

Hadn&#039;t thought about McCrea&#039;s designs, but you&#039;re right, they are rather strong -- except for adult Happy Hank Bendrix who looks... I&#039;m not sure I know how to describe that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn't find a place or reason to discuss Condition Red. That's a big fault of this title: a lot of characters that don't do anything beyond serving one specific role. It's hard to discuss characters like that. I don't mind that idea, but it doesn't work as well in a team book...</p>
<p>The defeat of Chimera is a bit too 'regular fight scene,' you're right.</p>
<p>Hadn't thought about McCrea's designs, but you're right, they are rather strong -- except for adult Happy Hank Bendrix who looks... I'm not sure I know how to describe that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wrote it, noticed what I wrote, thought it was funny, left it that way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I appreciate that.

More than I appreciated &lt;em&gt;The Monarchy&lt;/em&gt;. I read that series in full four or five summers ago, as part of an &lt;em&gt;Authority&lt;/em&gt; binge. And, man, those first few issues were a head-scratcher, a confounding series of clues and set-ups that, thankfully, eventually merged into something. Bram was a welcome addition to the cast; in a series where events were purposefully put just at the edge of clarity and sanity and comprehension, his sad sack life was something to cling to, something that made perfect sense. Was his arc -- a loser hero being forced to become something he wasn&#039;t, forced to transcend -- a microcosm of the book itself? Taking a bunch of cast-off and knock-off characters and pushing them beyond the tropes of the genre, to become something...else? Except it devolves into a big fight scene at the end anyway. Eh...

As much as McCrea was absolutely, entirely, fundamentally the wrong artist for the book, I do have to give him credit on his character designs. They were all sleek, efficient, and distinct. 

I was a bit surprised that you didn&#039;t mention Condition Red in your review. But, then, I guess he never did much in the series. He was just the guy who had the same name as Grifter&#039;s dead brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wrote it, noticed what I wrote, thought it was funny, left it that way.</p></blockquote>
<p>I appreciate that.</p>
<p>More than I appreciated <em>The Monarchy</em>. I read that series in full four or five summers ago, as part of an <em>Authority</em> binge. And, man, those first few issues were a head-scratcher, a confounding series of clues and set-ups that, thankfully, eventually merged into something. Bram was a welcome addition to the cast; in a series where events were purposefully put just at the edge of clarity and sanity and comprehension, his sad sack life was something to cling to, something that made perfect sense. Was his arc -- a loser hero being forced to become something he wasn't, forced to transcend -- a microcosm of the book itself? Taking a bunch of cast-off and knock-off characters and pushing them beyond the tropes of the genre, to become something...else? Except it devolves into a big fight scene at the end anyway. Eh...</p>
<p>As much as McCrea was absolutely, entirely, fundamentally the wrong artist for the book, I do have to give him credit on his character designs. They were all sleek, efficient, and distinct. </p>
<p>I was a bit surprised that you didn't mention Condition Red in your review. But, then, I guess he never did much in the series. He was just the guy who had the same name as Grifter's dead brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Nevett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Nevett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote it, noticed what I wrote, thought it was funny, left it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote it, noticed what I wrote, thought it was funny, left it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; You all remember Union, some shitty mid-‘90s superhero that no one remembers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ha.

That is a hell of a sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> You all remember Union, some shitty mid-‘90s superhero that no one remembers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha.</p>
<p>That is a hell of a sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Nevett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Nevett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one point, a book with Steve Pugh called &quot;The Tomorrow Party&quot; was announced for Image, but it never materialised. No idea why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point, a book with Steve Pugh called "The Tomorrow Party" was announced for Image, but it never materialised. No idea why.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it didn&#039;t sell because it wasn&#039;t very good?  Oh, I kid.

You actually got me interested in picking up the rest of this series.  I re-read issue #21 a few years ago and STILL couldn&#039;t understand the confounded thing, and I know I bought a few issues of the ongoing but lost interest.  I agree with you that McCrea wasn&#039;t really suited for it, though.  He was a big reason why I bought it and he was also a big reason why I stopped buying it.  I don&#039;t think I reached issue #5, but I don&#039;t have my long boxes in front of me, so I can&#039;t be sure.

Whatever happened to Young?  I remember that when this book came out, a lot of people were touting him as the next big thing.  That didn&#039;t work out too well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it didn't sell because it wasn't very good?  Oh, I kid.</p>
<p>You actually got me interested in picking up the rest of this series.  I re-read issue #21 a few years ago and STILL couldn't understand the confounded thing, and I know I bought a few issues of the ongoing but lost interest.  I agree with you that McCrea wasn't really suited for it, though.  He was a big reason why I bought it and he was also a big reason why I stopped buying it.  I don't think I reached issue #5, but I don't have my long boxes in front of me, so I can't be sure.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to Young?  I remember that when this book came out, a lot of people were touting him as the next big thing.  That didn't work out too well.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Nevett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Nevett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;ll take an ambitious, interesting failure of a book over almost anything... sometimes, even a masterpiece.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yeah.
It&#039;s like... &quot;So THAT&#039;S what was going on...&quot;
When I started reorganizing my collection, this was one of those runs I pulled together and reread all in one sitting, and I still found it strange, unsettling, and grasping at genius.  The Monarchy, like The Establishment, is an artifact of Wildstorm&#039;s experimental, fearless period, when they really let creators have a whack at their universe&#039;s fringes to tell unAuthority series.

Honestly, I liked the Monarchy, for all that it confused and baffled me.  I preferred the science hero version of Happy Hank Bendix to the one that returned in the Authority a few years later... if you can&#039;t stay dead, at least come back interesting, right?

This was a lot more entertaining and thoughtful than much of what we&#039;ve seen coming from the Wildstorm universe ever since they blew it up.  Even in its failure, it had ambition and character.  Ah well.  

I met Doselle Young at a convention a few years back.  I knew the name was familiar, but it wasn&#039;t until later than night when I snapped my fingers and made the connection.  And that&#039;s it: the Monarchy, for better or worse, left that lingering, subtle impression on me. 

I second the suggestion to check it out.  It&#039;s not perfect, but by God, it&#039;s interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell yeah.<br />
It's like... "So THAT'S what was going on..."<br />
When I started reorganizing my collection, this was one of those runs I pulled together and reread all in one sitting, and I still found it strange, unsettling, and grasping at genius.  The Monarchy, like The Establishment, is an artifact of Wildstorm's experimental, fearless period, when they really let creators have a whack at their universe's fringes to tell unAuthority series.</p>
<p>Honestly, I liked the Monarchy, for all that it confused and baffled me.  I preferred the science hero version of Happy Hank Bendix to the one that returned in the Authority a few years later... if you can't stay dead, at least come back interesting, right?</p>
<p>This was a lot more entertaining and thoughtful than much of what we've seen coming from the Wildstorm universe ever since they blew it up.  Even in its failure, it had ambition and character.  Ah well.  </p>
<p>I met Doselle Young at a convention a few years back.  I knew the name was familiar, but it wasn't until later than night when I snapped my fingers and made the connection.  And that's it: the Monarchy, for better or worse, left that lingering, subtle impression on me. </p>
<p>I second the suggestion to check it out.  It's not perfect, but by God, it's interesting.</p>
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