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	<title>Comments on: A Year of Cool Comic Book Moments &#8211; Day 189</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Morse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, Rucka dealt with the previous boyfriend(s) as part of bringing her out of the closet.  People dating straight (and even marrying straight) before realizing and/or coming to grips with their homosexuality happens all the time, anyway.

Renee being outed didn&#039;t jar me or feel wrong or out of character, so I&#039;d have to say that Rucka handled it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, Rucka dealt with the previous boyfriend(s) as part of bringing her out of the closet.  People dating straight (and even marrying straight) before realizing and/or coming to grips with their homosexuality happens all the time, anyway.</p>
<p>Renee being outed didn&#8217;t jar me or feel wrong or out of character, so I&#8217;d have to say that Rucka handled it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  I&#039;m not sure if I think the lesbian retcon is good or bad or a little of both.  But the more I become aware of which comics Rucka wrote the less I seem to like him as a writer.  He&#039;s very... average, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  I&#8217;m not sure if I think the lesbian retcon is good or bad or a little of both.  But the more I become aware of which comics Rucka wrote the less I seem to like him as a writer.  He&#8217;s very&#8230; average, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: The Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee Montoya, before Greg Rucka, was written straight ever since she turned up first in The Batman Adventures cartoon then the comics (Batman 475). She even had a boyfriend who died during the Clench/Contagion run in Batman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee Montoya, before Greg Rucka, was written straight ever since she turned up first in The Batman Adventures cartoon then the comics (Batman 475). She even had a boyfriend who died during the Clench/Contagion run in Batman.</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Rene we hadn&#039;t seen much of anything to suggest she wasn&#039;t gay. With Rictor, there wasn&#039;t anything to suggest he was gay, what happened was Jeph Loeb started writing X-force and somehow thought he was based on misreading (or skimming) the title before he started...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Rene we hadn&#8217;t seen much of anything to suggest she wasn&#8217;t gay. With Rictor, there wasn&#8217;t anything to suggest he was gay, what happened was Jeph Loeb started writing X-force and somehow thought he was based on misreading (or skimming) the title before he started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference between deciding Rene&#039;s gay versus deciding Rictor&#039;s gay (which I had completely forgotten about)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between deciding Rene&#8217;s gay versus deciding Rictor&#8217;s gay (which I had completely forgotten about)?</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me like he wanted a gay character, and Rene just fit the bill. It works in the way it does for Karma - there&#039;s no past behavior to contradict it. Unlike, say, characters like Rictor, who a writer just decides must be gay.

Sasha is a Mary Sue, and kind of annoying, but there have been worse, before and since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like he wanted a gay character, and Rene just fit the bill. It works in the way it does for Karma &#8211; there&#8217;s no past behavior to contradict it. Unlike, say, characters like Rictor, who a writer just decides must be gay.</p>
<p>Sasha is a Mary Sue, and kind of annoying, but there have been worse, before and since.</p>
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		<title>By: TGIF &#124; The Adventures Of Justine LugNutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGIF &#124; The Adventures Of Justine LugNutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How long ago did Montoya get outed as a lesbian? I’m guessing it was once they started fleshing out her character more, but was she gay from the get-go or tdid hey just never brought it up one way or the other? Most of what I remember about Montoya is either her just showing up with Bullock after Bats had done his thing and her supporting role in the animated series.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She was written as straight before Rucka, but she was gay as soon as Rucka started writing her (that is to say, as soon as he began writing her, he felt that she was gay and that&#039;s how he wrote her, even though he did not &quot;out&quot; her for some time after he started on the Bat-titles). 

And do note that when Rucka started writing her,  he did not know about any past stories saying otherwise, so it was not like he thought he was &quot;changing&quot; anything - he thought he was the first writer to deal with Renee&#039;s sexuality, and he felt strongly that she was gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How long ago did Montoya get outed as a lesbian? I’m guessing it was once they started fleshing out her character more, but was she gay from the get-go or tdid hey just never brought it up one way or the other? Most of what I remember about Montoya is either her just showing up with Bullock after Bats had done his thing and her supporting role in the animated series.</p></blockquote>
<p>She was written as straight before Rucka, but she was gay as soon as Rucka started writing her (that is to say, as soon as he began writing her, he felt that she was gay and that&#8217;s how he wrote her, even though he did not &#8220;out&#8221; her for some time after he started on the Bat-titles). </p>
<p>And do note that when Rucka started writing her,  he did not know about any past stories saying otherwise, so it was not like he thought he was &#8220;changing&#8221; anything &#8211; he thought he was the first writer to deal with Renee&#8217;s sexuality, and he felt strongly that she was gay.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read this storyline, but even the little I read of her during Infinite Crisis era made me sick of her.  I kept thinking, &quot;Who is this chick and why is she being given such prominence?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read this storyline, but even the little I read of her during Infinite Crisis era made me sick of her.  I kept thinking, &#8220;Who is this chick and why is she being given such prominence?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just look up what a character being &#039;Mary Sue-ish&#039; means.  And that&#039;s my lesson learned for the day.

How long ago did Montoya get outed as a lesbian?  I&#039;m guessing it was once they started fleshing out her character more, but was she gay from the get-go or tdid hey just never brought it up one way or the other?  Most of what I remember about Montoya is either her just showing up with Bullock after Bats had done his thing and her supporting role in the animated series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just look up what a character being &#8216;Mary Sue-ish&#8217; means.  And that&#8217;s my lesson learned for the day.</p>
<p>How long ago did Montoya get outed as a lesbian?  I&#8217;m guessing it was once they started fleshing out her character more, but was she gay from the get-go or tdid hey just never brought it up one way or the other?  Most of what I remember about Montoya is either her just showing up with Bullock after Bats had done his thing and her supporting role in the animated series.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I liked Sasha at the time, but yeah, I’ve definitely felt that she was way too much of a pet character from that point on.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do like Rucka&#039;s writing, but it seems to me whenever he&#039;s on a company owned book (which is always these days), he has a clear stand out pet character.
One of the most annoying aspects of Gotham Central, for me, was that he only ever wanted to write about Montoya.</description>
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I liked Sasha at the time, but yeah, I’ve definitely felt that she was way too much of a pet character from that point on.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I do like Rucka&#8217;s writing, but it seems to me whenever he&#8217;s on a company owned book (which is always these days), he has a clear stand out pet character.<br />
One of the most annoying aspects of Gotham Central, for me, was that he only ever wanted to write about Montoya.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m pretty sure I didn&#039;t read that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m pretty sure I didn&#8217;t read that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Sasha at the time, but yeah, I&#039;ve definitely felt that she was way too much of a pet character from that point on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Sasha at the time, but yeah, I&#8217;ve definitely felt that she was way too much of a pet character from that point on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the storyline, Sasha&#039;s character (haven&#039;t read anything with her since, except an Infinite Crisis Special, Final Crisis Special, and Checkmate 1), and the reasoning behind her discovering Bruce&#039;s identity. The ending was a bit weak (although I liked the final confrontation well enough), but there were some high-quality issues in the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the storyline, Sasha&#8217;s character (haven&#8217;t read anything with her since, except an Infinite Crisis Special, Final Crisis Special, and Checkmate 1), and the reasoning behind her discovering Bruce&#8217;s identity. The ending was a bit weak (although I liked the final confrontation well enough), but there were some high-quality issues in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that was an awesome scene in the storyline and at the time... but taken on it&#039;s own, it falls flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that was an awesome scene in the storyline and at the time&#8230; but taken on it&#8217;s own, it falls flat.</p>
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		<title>By: stealthwise</title>
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		<dc:creator>stealthwise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T, it just felt like Bordeaux was a walking plot device shoe-horned in specifically for the arc, and that while she got her ass handed to her a few times, she still seemed TOO good at what she did, to the point where once she discovers Bruce&#039;s identity, he simply starts training her as an apprentice.  It felt, well, I hesitate to say it, but almost Mary Sue-ish in terms of how abruptly she appeared and integrated herself into the Bat-world, only to be pulled away and then later used in future titles.  Maybe I&#039;m just too irritated at the lack of non-powered, non-crime involved supporting cast members there seem to be in current superhero titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T, it just felt like Bordeaux was a walking plot device shoe-horned in specifically for the arc, and that while she got her ass handed to her a few times, she still seemed TOO good at what she did, to the point where once she discovers Bruce&#8217;s identity, he simply starts training her as an apprentice.  It felt, well, I hesitate to say it, but almost Mary Sue-ish in terms of how abruptly she appeared and integrated herself into the Bat-world, only to be pulled away and then later used in future titles.  Maybe I&#8217;m just too irritated at the lack of non-powered, non-crime involved supporting cast members there seem to be in current superhero titles.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moment should have been &quot;He didn&#039;t do it. He&#039;s the goddamn Batman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moment should have been &#8220;He didn&#8217;t do it. He&#8217;s the goddamn Batman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m usually okay with spoilering stuff from old arcs, this is specifically a whodunnit (well, at the end - Murderer is more like a prelude to what we eventually got with Gotham Central... and I guess it&#039;s more technically a whodidntdunnit). It&#039;s been 75 years or so since Murder on the Orient Express, but I&#039;m not going to spoil that ending, either. Just kinda seems to miss the point.

I thought Sasha fit in just fine as Bruce&#039;s bodyguard. It&#039;s like Karl Kesel&#039;s reasoning for adding in Rosalind Sharpe to the DD books during his run - it&#039;s always good to make sure you have someone who DOESN&#039;T know the hero&#039;s secret identity, which the Batbooks were very much lacking at the time. And given the tone of the Batbooks at the time - Dick was a police officer, the Birds were still in the more espionage-ish era, etc. - Sasha&#039;s bodyguard character seemed to fit in just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m usually okay with spoilering stuff from old arcs, this is specifically a whodunnit (well, at the end &#8211; Murderer is more like a prelude to what we eventually got with Gotham Central&#8230; and I guess it&#8217;s more technically a whodidntdunnit). It&#8217;s been 75 years or so since Murder on the Orient Express, but I&#8217;m not going to spoil that ending, either. Just kinda seems to miss the point.</p>
<p>I thought Sasha fit in just fine as Bruce&#8217;s bodyguard. It&#8217;s like Karl Kesel&#8217;s reasoning for adding in Rosalind Sharpe to the DD books during his run &#8211; it&#8217;s always good to make sure you have someone who DOESN&#8217;T know the hero&#8217;s secret identity, which the Batbooks were very much lacking at the time. And given the tone of the Batbooks at the time &#8211; Dick was a police officer, the Birds were still in the more espionage-ish era, etc. &#8211; Sasha&#8217;s bodyguard character seemed to fit in just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murray, you lucky dog.</description>
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