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		<title>By: DazedGenoshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DazedGenoshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m torn on the Nazis in cartoons issue, on the one hand I think its irresponsible to insist small children be exposed to such a brutal historical subject before they&#039;re mature enough to properly understand it for the sake of the integrity of a comic book story. Yet at can&#039;t help but shake the feeling its a touch insulting and an example of bat$h!t hyper-political correctness. Seems to me the Germans would rather have Nazis specified from &quot;generic Germans&quot;; not all Nazis were German, not all Germans were Nazis, and doing so implies the opposite of the reality of the situation. 

That said, it looks like the soon to be released Cap. America film is going to do the same thing as the current Avengers &#039;toon (i.e.- Hydra in place of Nazis); a move I find baffling. It seems a touch insulting to those who died in the war, and I fear might be a deciding factor in the success or failure of the movie (read- contributing to people hating it; I hear people bash X-Men 3 for much less). What REALLY honks me off though is the modern condemnation of &quot;propaganda&quot; comics and cartoons from the WWII era (Superman advertizing war bonds, Daffy Duck fighting straight up Nazis, Cap. punching Hitler in the face, etc.) For one thing, its another example of the absurdity of imposing contemporary morals on historical subjects, and at worst its indirectly condoning the actions of the Axis powers- you know, the aggressors in the war who preached ethnic superiority as an excuse for genocide. 

Oh, and the Surfer/Elf Quest connection is awesome. The trippy Marvel Sci-Fi of the 70s reminds me a lot of Elf Quest. Also, I agree with the other comments about the Silver Surfer &#039;toon- it was brilliantly done and cut down much too early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m torn on the Nazis in cartoons issue, on the one hand I think its irresponsible to insist small children be exposed to such a brutal historical subject before they&#8217;re mature enough to properly understand it for the sake of the integrity of a comic book story. Yet at can&#8217;t help but shake the feeling its a touch insulting and an example of bat$h!t hyper-political correctness. Seems to me the Germans would rather have Nazis specified from &#8220;generic Germans&#8221;; not all Nazis were German, not all Germans were Nazis, and doing so implies the opposite of the reality of the situation. </p>
<p>That said, it looks like the soon to be released Cap. America film is going to do the same thing as the current Avengers &#8216;toon (i.e.- Hydra in place of Nazis); a move I find baffling. It seems a touch insulting to those who died in the war, and I fear might be a deciding factor in the success or failure of the movie (read- contributing to people hating it; I hear people bash X-Men 3 for much less). What REALLY honks me off though is the modern condemnation of &#8220;propaganda&#8221; comics and cartoons from the WWII era (Superman advertizing war bonds, Daffy Duck fighting straight up Nazis, Cap. punching Hitler in the face, etc.) For one thing, its another example of the absurdity of imposing contemporary morals on historical subjects, and at worst its indirectly condoning the actions of the Axis powers- you know, the aggressors in the war who preached ethnic superiority as an excuse for genocide. </p>
<p>Oh, and the Surfer/Elf Quest connection is awesome. The trippy Marvel Sci-Fi of the 70s reminds me a lot of Elf Quest. Also, I agree with the other comments about the Silver Surfer &#8216;toon- it was brilliantly done and cut down much too early.</p>
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		<title>By: taffysaur</title>
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		<dc:creator>taffysaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t have swastikas in the Savage Time episode of Justice League, but they DID show a cryo-frozen Hitler!

And EC&#039;s totally still in business. MAD is one of the most successful magazines of all time, and still going strong. EC&#039;s now under the DC banner, like Wildstorm etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t have swastikas in the Savage Time episode of Justice League, but they DID show a cryo-frozen Hitler!</p>
<p>And EC&#8217;s totally still in business. MAD is one of the most successful magazines of all time, and still going strong. EC&#8217;s now under the DC banner, like Wildstorm etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Durrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Durrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the one who sent that piece of wrong information about Captain America&#039;s 1990s cartoon series, sir, so I am the one who must put that right.  I will ask the people there to erase it tomorrow because I submitted it before I was able to delete it myself at that site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the one who sent that piece of wrong information about Captain America&#8217;s 1990s cartoon series, sir, so I am the one who must put that right.  I will ask the people there to erase it tomorrow because I submitted it before I was able to delete it myself at that site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB210, firstly, hijacking a thread about comic book history in order to promote your (un)belief is why some people suspect there&#039;s a high correlation between Asphergers and atheism.
Secondly, the Roman empire was only tolerant inasmuch as if you first offered sacrifice to the genius of Caesar, you could follow whatever gods you wanted to. If your religious beliefs didn&#039;t allow you to offer such sacrifice, as the Jewish religion didn&#039;t, you were regarded as a superstitious freak barely deserving of the time of day. Judaism got away with it because it was a religion older than Rome, and antiquity was an important element to the ancients. Christianity didn&#039;t have that shield, although it tried to hang under the Jewish banner for as long as they could. We have the writings of Pliny which tell us that torture and execution were regarded as suitable punishments for the Christian members.
Jesus informed his disciples that being unmarried and in God&#039;s service had its own blessings. However rabbinic teaching tended to stress the importance of marriage (sometimes from rabbis who were themselves celibate) and apostles like Peter had their own wives so it&#039;s not as if it was an option forced on people. He also taught the coming of the end of the age (not world) which was largely accomplished in the fall of Jerusalem.
Also don&#039;t use &quot;allegedly&quot; in a sentence about when Jesus lived. It makes you look like the kind of nonce who gives credence to the likes of Zeitgeist. No credentialed historian disputes Jesus&#039; existence, period.

I actually enjoyed the Elfquest books I was able to get a hold of, although mainly in tradepaperback form. I never got to the end of their story though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB210, firstly, hijacking a thread about comic book history in order to promote your (un)belief is why some people suspect there&#8217;s a high correlation between Asphergers and atheism.<br />
Secondly, the Roman empire was only tolerant inasmuch as if you first offered sacrifice to the genius of Caesar, you could follow whatever gods you wanted to. If your religious beliefs didn&#8217;t allow you to offer such sacrifice, as the Jewish religion didn&#8217;t, you were regarded as a superstitious freak barely deserving of the time of day. Judaism got away with it because it was a religion older than Rome, and antiquity was an important element to the ancients. Christianity didn&#8217;t have that shield, although it tried to hang under the Jewish banner for as long as they could. We have the writings of Pliny which tell us that torture and execution were regarded as suitable punishments for the Christian members.<br />
Jesus informed his disciples that being unmarried and in God&#8217;s service had its own blessings. However rabbinic teaching tended to stress the importance of marriage (sometimes from rabbis who were themselves celibate) and apostles like Peter had their own wives so it&#8217;s not as if it was an option forced on people. He also taught the coming of the end of the age (not world) which was largely accomplished in the fall of Jerusalem.<br />
Also don&#8217;t use &#8220;allegedly&#8221; in a sentence about when Jesus lived. It makes you look like the kind of nonce who gives credence to the likes of Zeitgeist. No credentialed historian disputes Jesus&#8217; existence, period.</p>
<p>I actually enjoyed the Elfquest books I was able to get a hold of, although mainly in tradepaperback form. I never got to the end of their story though.</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The international market concept makes sense. Outside of that not using nazis or swastikas doesn&#039;t. I mean using them as Caps enemies they would not be glorified. Using generic germans instead of nazis seems like it would cause more outrage. For example it would be less offensive to have Cap beating up Al-quida than just beating up some Arabs, because you know Arab = bad. I realize that the swastika is still used by skinhead and white supremecist groups. All the more reason to show it as an evil symbol and have the symbol of America thrashing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The international market concept makes sense. Outside of that not using nazis or swastikas doesn&#8217;t. I mean using them as Caps enemies they would not be glorified. Using generic germans instead of nazis seems like it would cause more outrage. For example it would be less offensive to have Cap beating up Al-quida than just beating up some Arabs, because you know Arab = bad. I realize that the swastika is still used by skinhead and white supremecist groups. All the more reason to show it as an evil symbol and have the symbol of America thrashing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Comic Book Legends Revealed #222</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Comic Book Legends Revealed #222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] noted in a recent installment of Comic Book Legends Revealed, Fox had some rather...interesting views, censorship-wise, on what was acceptable on a superhero [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rayguns &#38; Sixshooters &#187; Archive &#187; Cartoon Graveyard #5</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/07/09/comic-book-legends-revealed-215/comment-page-2/#comment-732669</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayguns &#38; Sixshooters &#187; Archive &#187; Cartoon Graveyard #5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brian Cronin over at Comic Book Legends revealed devoted a legend to debunking the idea that the show was scuttled over the refusal to use the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DesertSon915</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesertSon915</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe some of you really believe it&#039;s a bad idea to NOT exploit Nazi symbolism in order to sell action figures and happy meals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe some of you really believe it&#8217;s a bad idea to NOT exploit Nazi symbolism in order to sell action figures and happy meals.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the connections to that episode go ever deeper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_rug#Folklore

&quot;Weaving plays a role in the creation myth of Navajo cosmology, which articulates social relationships and continues to play a role in Navajo culture. According to one aspect of this tradition, a spiritual being called Spider Man instructed the women of the Navajo how to build the first loom from exotic materials including sky, earth, sunrays, rock crystal, and sheet lightning. Then another spiritual being known as Spider Woman taught the Navajo how to weave on it.&quot;

Just saw this in PBS:

http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/investigations/704_navajorug.html

So yeah,  that episode of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends was really on to something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the connections to that episode go ever deeper.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_rug#Folklore" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_rug#Folklore</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Weaving plays a role in the creation myth of Navajo cosmology, which articulates social relationships and continues to play a role in Navajo culture. According to one aspect of this tradition, a spiritual being called Spider Man instructed the women of the Navajo how to build the first loom from exotic materials including sky, earth, sunrays, rock crystal, and sheet lightning. Then another spiritual being known as Spider Woman taught the Navajo how to weave on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just saw this in PBS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/investigations/704_navajorug.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/investigations/704_navajorug.html</a></p>
<p>So yeah,  that episode of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends was really on to something.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an article about the use of the symbol in Native American Indian motifs.

http://www.collectorsguide.com/fa/fa086.shtml

See...Hiawatha Smith taught me something. I feel more smarter already now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an article about the use of the symbol in Native American Indian motifs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collectorsguide.com/fa/fa086.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.collectorsguide.com/fa/fa086.shtml</a></p>
<p>See&#8230;Hiawatha Smith taught me something. I feel more smarter already now.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Probably though the other factor that’s not been mentioned though is that even without problems to do with the villains, Captain America just doesn’t travel all that well. Even before the current problems, 90% of the world’s toy buying kids don’t have the emotional attachment to the character that you might. Just doesn’t make sense to develop the show&quot;

I do not disagree with the sentiment, but do hate some of the numbers 90% of the worlds toy buying kids? You think so? I mean before any cartoon series outside of the established characters, how many of the toy buying kids had an emotional attachment to the product?  How much of He-Man toy sales were outside the U.S. and how many kids had an emotional attachment to the product before the show? 

Sure Cap as a franchise is probably never going to be a big seller overseas, but there is enough kids in the U.S. to matter to the point that overseas sells are usually thought of as an afterthought anyway. (until recently that is, nowadays they do think more about overseas product sales, but even in the recent past it wasn&#039;t a big business factor---in the opposite way, try and buy a Dr Who toy in the U.S.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Probably though the other factor that’s not been mentioned though is that even without problems to do with the villains, Captain America just doesn’t travel all that well. Even before the current problems, 90% of the world’s toy buying kids don’t have the emotional attachment to the character that you might. Just doesn’t make sense to develop the show&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not disagree with the sentiment, but do hate some of the numbers 90% of the worlds toy buying kids? You think so? I mean before any cartoon series outside of the established characters, how many of the toy buying kids had an emotional attachment to the product?  How much of He-Man toy sales were outside the U.S. and how many kids had an emotional attachment to the product before the show? </p>
<p>Sure Cap as a franchise is probably never going to be a big seller overseas, but there is enough kids in the U.S. to matter to the point that overseas sells are usually thought of as an afterthought anyway. (until recently that is, nowadays they do think more about overseas product sales, but even in the recent past it wasn&#8217;t a big business factor&#8212;in the opposite way, try and buy a Dr Who toy in the U.S.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony &amp; Omar are almost certainly right about the problems marketing Nazis in Germany, though even where there aren&#039;t laws prohibiting the use of the symbols, most the formerly occupied European countries will have problems.

Probably though the other factor that&#039;s not been mentioned though is that  even without problems to do with the villains, Captain America just doesn&#039;t travel all that well. Even before the current problems, 90% of the world&#039;s toy buying kids don&#039;t have the emotional attachment to the character that you might. Just doesn&#039;t make sense to develop the show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony &amp; Omar are almost certainly right about the problems marketing Nazis in Germany, though even where there aren&#8217;t laws prohibiting the use of the symbols, most the formerly occupied European countries will have problems.</p>
<p>Probably though the other factor that&#8217;s not been mentioned though is that  even without problems to do with the villains, Captain America just doesn&#8217;t travel all that well. Even before the current problems, 90% of the world&#8217;s toy buying kids don&#8217;t have the emotional attachment to the character that you might. Just doesn&#8217;t make sense to develop the show</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Nichols</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I forgot in my original post... 

The &quot;banning&quot; of nazi symbolism was actually imposed on the Germans by the Allies in what they called the &quot;denazification&quot; of the country.  It was part of the agreement by which the Germans were allowed to form a new government and rule themselves after WW2.  It wasn&#039;t so much an effort to &quot;forget history&quot; and &quot;promote political correctness&quot; as it was to prevent propagandists from fanning the still-glowing embers of the recently defeated Nazi party. 

Marvel&#039;s  avoidance of such symbolism, was probably an effort to avoid the time and hassle of being reviewed by a German censorship board, rather than trying to adhere to a hard and fast set of rules.  Although the rules, in their strictest context, are supposed to deal with &quot;propaganda&quot;, it&#039;s probably a little scary to sink time and money into something that someone could subjectively reject because of  a questionable translation or maybe they were having a bad day.

((  Interesting note:  there was also an allied campaign to instill a &quot;collective guilt&quot; among the German people after the war, with propaganda featuring concentration camp victims with slogans such as &quot;YOU ARE GUILTY OF THIS&quot;.  The objective was to make the Germans to feel implicitly involved in Hitler&#039;s madness, with the hopes they would not let it happen again.  You learn something new, every day.  ))

If you want to read more, wikipedia has some great info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

Knowing is half the battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I forgot in my original post&#8230; </p>
<p>The &#8220;banning&#8221; of nazi symbolism was actually imposed on the Germans by the Allies in what they called the &#8220;denazification&#8221; of the country.  It was part of the agreement by which the Germans were allowed to form a new government and rule themselves after WW2.  It wasn&#8217;t so much an effort to &#8220;forget history&#8221; and &#8220;promote political correctness&#8221; as it was to prevent propagandists from fanning the still-glowing embers of the recently defeated Nazi party. </p>
<p>Marvel&#8217;s  avoidance of such symbolism, was probably an effort to avoid the time and hassle of being reviewed by a German censorship board, rather than trying to adhere to a hard and fast set of rules.  Although the rules, in their strictest context, are supposed to deal with &#8220;propaganda&#8221;, it&#8217;s probably a little scary to sink time and money into something that someone could subjectively reject because of  a questionable translation or maybe they were having a bad day.</p>
<p>((  Interesting note:  there was also an allied campaign to instill a &#8220;collective guilt&#8221; among the German people after the war, with propaganda featuring concentration camp victims with slogans such as &#8220;YOU ARE GUILTY OF THIS&#8221;.  The objective was to make the Germans to feel implicitly involved in Hitler&#8217;s madness, with the hopes they would not let it happen again.  You learn something new, every day.  ))</p>
<p>If you want to read more, wikipedia has some great info.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification</a></p>
<p>Knowing is half the battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I am really disturbed by this idea that kid&#039;s shows can&#039;t have Nazis.  It amounts to lying about history, which is always a bad idea.

Please, people, let´s be serious. Are we really complaining about the lack of historical accuracy in kid´s tv shows? 

Maybe we should start forbidding The Flintstones, then. Not to mention Peabody and Sherman. That time-meddling dog deserves a stern talk-to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I am really disturbed by this idea that kid&#8217;s shows can&#8217;t have Nazis.  It amounts to lying about history, which is always a bad idea.</p>
<p>Please, people, let´s be serious. Are we really complaining about the lack of historical accuracy in kid´s tv shows? </p>
<p>Maybe we should start forbidding The Flintstones, then. Not to mention Peabody and Sherman. That time-meddling dog deserves a stern talk-to.</p>
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		<title>By: Hysan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hysan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really cool story about the Wendy and Richard Pini.

They also popped up in an Iron Fist storyline as well, since they were friends with one of the Sons of The Tiger characters, Bob something or other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really cool story about the Wendy and Richard Pini.</p>
<p>They also popped up in an Iron Fist storyline as well, since they were friends with one of the Sons of The Tiger characters, Bob something or other.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimota94</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimota94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great column, as always, Brian!  (And I just today finished your &quot;Was Superman a Spy?&quot; book, by the way... and I loved every page of it!)

Anyway, I happen to also be currently reading&quot;The Chrysalids&quot;, by John Wyndham, right now.  It was published in 1955, and is about a small segment of a post-apocalyptic world (Newfoundland and Labrador, actually) in which mutation is rampant and highly feared by the people there.  I suppose it&#039;s possibly just a coincidence that &quot;An Eye For An Eye&quot; came out around the same time and featured many of the same scenes (including the one with mutated babies being taken away from their anguished mothers, and destroyed).  Or it&#039;s possible that Torres had just read the Wyndham novel and decided to do his own take on those same themes.  (Or maybe everyone was obsessed with mutation at that time, what with Hiroshima and Nagasaki being only a decade earlier and the Cold War being in full bloom by then.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great column, as always, Brian!  (And I just today finished your &#8220;Was Superman a Spy?&#8221; book, by the way&#8230; and I loved every page of it!)</p>
<p>Anyway, I happen to also be currently reading&#8221;The Chrysalids&#8221;, by John Wyndham, right now.  It was published in 1955, and is about a small segment of a post-apocalyptic world (Newfoundland and Labrador, actually) in which mutation is rampant and highly feared by the people there.  I suppose it&#8217;s possibly just a coincidence that &#8220;An Eye For An Eye&#8221; came out around the same time and featured many of the same scenes (including the one with mutated babies being taken away from their anguished mothers, and destroyed).  Or it&#8217;s possible that Torres had just read the Wyndham novel and decided to do his own take on those same themes.  (Or maybe everyone was obsessed with mutation at that time, what with Hiroshima and Nagasaki being only a decade earlier and the Cold War being in full bloom by then.)</p>
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		<title>By: JackKing</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackKing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vikings/Norse men used the swastika as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vikings/Norse men used the swastika as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A swastika is a pretty simple design.  It was invented by several cultures.  (The word &#039;swastika&#039; is Sanskrit, though.)
I am really disturbed by this idea that kid&#039;s shows can&#039;t have Nazis.  It amounts to lying about history, which is always a bad idea.
It&#039;s been a long time since I&#039;ve seen it, but I seem to remember when Magneto&#039;s history was shown on the X-Men cartoon, that they didn&#039;t show any Nazis or anything that could clearly identify them as such.  It was just sort of a generic genocide.  (Although I can&#039;t think of any other genocides in history that were done in that fashion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A swastika is a pretty simple design.  It was invented by several cultures.  (The word &#8216;swastika&#8217; is Sanskrit, though.)<br />
I am really disturbed by this idea that kid&#8217;s shows can&#8217;t have Nazis.  It amounts to lying about history, which is always a bad idea.<br />
It&#8217;s been a long time since I&#8217;ve seen it, but I seem to remember when Magneto&#8217;s history was shown on the X-Men cartoon, that they didn&#8217;t show any Nazis or anything that could clearly identify them as such.  It was just sort of a generic genocide.  (Although I can&#8217;t think of any other genocides in history that were done in that fashion.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he was a Native American character.  Watch the clip I linked and he&#039;s in it.

Oddly enough he is a tribute to Indiana Jones.  The character studies ancient histories, is also a professor, and look at the bit where Firestar has to simulate the sun shining behind the swastika cast its shadow and tell them where the secret chamber is.  There is a snake crawling around the swastika.  The whole episode is an homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark which is why the Nazi references were there to begin with.  I&#039;m willing to bet that they had to soften it up quite a bit to even get what that had aired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he was a Native American character.  Watch the clip I linked and he&#8217;s in it.</p>
<p>Oddly enough he is a tribute to Indiana Jones.  The character studies ancient histories, is also a professor, and look at the bit where Firestar has to simulate the sun shining behind the swastika cast its shadow and tell them where the secret chamber is.  There is a snake crawling around the swastika.  The whole episode is an homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark which is why the Nazi references were there to begin with.  I&#8217;m willing to bet that they had to soften it up quite a bit to even get what that had aired.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamino Neko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamino Neko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India was not the only place where the swastika existed before the Nazis - Native Americans (the Hopi and Navajo, for instance) did use it, and it was used in at least one US military unit&#039;s insignia (a Marine division, IIRC), based on the Navajo usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India was not the only place where the swastika existed before the Nazis &#8211; Native Americans (the Hopi and Navajo, for instance) did use it, and it was used in at least one US military unit&#8217;s insignia (a Marine division, IIRC), based on the Navajo usage.</p>
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