Comments on: The Top 70 Most Iconic Panels in Marvel History – Day 11

By: buttler

buttler — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:45:04 +0000

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. You can kind of see Perez in there somewhere, but the inking and coloring is a hot mess.

By: Shawn Hill

Shawn Hill — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:57 +0000

True, true, the inking plays a big role. I’m a Perez Zombie, always will be.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:48:29 +0000

To be fair, Shawn, that’s not really Perez through and through.

That was Perez breakdowns and Al Vey finished art (that was their pretty clever solution to keeping Perez on schedule, they had him do breakdowns for most -if not all – of his Avengers issues rather than finished pencils).

By the end of his run, Paul Ryan was brought in to sort of co-pencil the book with Perez, where Perez would do extremely light breakdowns that Ryan would take to full pencils and then Vey would ink the finished pencils.

By: Shawn Hill

Shawn Hill — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:47:19 +0000

Are you guys kidding? That’s patented Perez detail, all over the place, and typical of his run on the Busiek Avengers?

However, if we’d prefer an iconic panel from JLA/Avengers, how about something from Superman vs. Thor: “I guess my dial goes up to 11!”

By: buttler

buttler — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:06:48 +0000

Number 1 is definitely the way to go here, but man, 3 is superb.

Sadly I have to agree that while Perez is one of my favorite artists, the panel here (which I’ve never seen before) looks kind of sad in comparison. I know it wouldn’t count, but I’d take any single panel of JLA-Avengers over this one.

By: JoeMac

JoeMac — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:14:05 +0000

I find it funny to even compare #2 to the other two panels, especially #1. It isn’t even remotely in the same league. That Avengers panel looks like it was drawn by a 15 year old kid who may or may not have some potential. It is just silly to me. Maybe the dialogue is cool, but the artwork is too… average (which is being kind)… to call that panel iconic. When I googled this issue I read it was drawn by George Perez… I hope that isn’t true. There is SO MANY better representations of his work than this panel.

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:05:04 +0000

#3 is the only one I recognise here

By: Eric

Eric — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:59:52 +0000

#2 is the first one of these featured that is I read when it came out.

I don’t get #1. I like a lot of the Lee/Kirby FF stuff, but this seems pretty static to me. His body language and facial expression say nothing. I get it is important because of the story it is involved in, but it just doesn’t seem like the best of the Kirby FF stuff. His trademark energy is not at show here.

By: kalorama

kalorama — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:34:08 +0000

That Avengers panel really seems out of place between those other two. Nice piece of artwork, but it doesn’t really represent a major “wow” moment for the characters, the book, or the medium. And, quite frankly, without those elements, it’s really too recent to have achieved real icon status.

By: jazzbo

jazzbo — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:28:14 +0000

#2 is a contender for my favorite panel of all time, so I have to go with it, even though the other two are great.

By: snakeman99

snakeman99 — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:14:17 +0000

If you’re going to bring in Steranko’s Cap work, you just HAVE to go with the Bucky/Grim Reaper montage (recently homaged by Bru/Epting)

http://superherouniverse.com/wiki/Image:SterankoCaptAm-page.jpg

That, or the two-page motorcycle splash.

Actually, you can find all three here

http://www.tcj.com/messboard/viewtopic.php?p=99946&sid=d010e53d80ffd1b4cc4b5a2382a9ce5d

Steranko!

By: Chris McAree

Chris McAree — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:15:18 +0000

FF #51 is one of my all time comics from any publisher. But while the splash page is great, and almost certainly the most iconic panel in the issue, I just have a personal preference for the pseudo-Thing sitting in resignation, as the asteroid upon which he rests hurtles towards oblivion.

By: Alastair

Alastair — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:59:05 +0000

will we see cap in the ovel office at the end of the secret empire.

By: LouReedRichards

LouReedRichards — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:29:03 +0000

#1 by a mile.

I love Cap and really love Hydra, but as has been said there are better examples of them.

The splash to FF#51 should easily make it into the top ten (I hope).

@Roman – 100% agreement.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:04:42 +0000

my favorite thing panels are when he is crawling through ego the living planet

By: Richard J. Marcej

Richard J. Marcej — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:44:07 +0000

Panel #1, Best Splash Page Ever!

By: dhole

dhole — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:52:02 +0000

I think I’d go with the Thing panel.

I admit I never understood why everyone loved that Thor/Ultron moment so much when that same story arc had one of the greatest holy s–t moments in Avengers history. I’m talking about the previous issue’s cliffhanger when, after spending a whole issue defeating Ultron, the Avengers encounter another Ultron with a higher number on its forehead, then another, until one shows up with a number like “612″ or something incredible (sorry I don’t remember the exact numbers). I hope that sequence shows up in a Cool Comic Book Moment entry.

Having said all that, this Avengers panel has become legendary, so it’s earned a spot on this list, I suppose. But I still go with the Thing.

By: chad

chad — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:27:33 +0000

i have to go with the first one. for it shows the thing accepting that he will not be his old look any more and the rain represents his saddness and his acceptance of his true fate

By: Shawn Hill

Shawn Hill — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:59 +0000

Great Busiek Avengers choice. Definitely the Ultron story was very intense. I was trying to think of one I would pick … maybe Wanda calling Wonder Man back to life? Or Jan signing the submission letter to Kang during his world domination invasion?

Two more ideas:

“He” coming out of the pod in Fantastic Four.

and the Avengers discovering the pod that held Jean Grey’s body in the Hudson River (or was it the East?).

By: chris

chris — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:10:50 +0000

Tough that pannel #2 had to be featured the same day as “This Man… This Monster!” That one is easily the most iconic of the three today.
Gotta say though, I personally like Thor telling Ultron he would have word with thee more.