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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Random Thoughts (September 1, 2009)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Random Thoughts (September 1, 2009)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thought! Each week in his Sunday Brunch feature, Bill Reed asks a question and, instead of answering it in the comments there, I shall [...]</description>
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		<title>By: s1rude</title>
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		<dc:creator>s1rude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of the week is tough...I can come up with character&#039;s I dislike pretty easily, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s the same thing as being uninterested.  For instance, I have a long held opinion that the Hal Jordan GL is a d-bag, but I&#039;ll concede you can tell interesting stories with him.  Along similar lines, as a big fan of the Flash, particularly the Wally West version, I&#039;d point out that very few of my favorite stories have a whole lot to do with the powers and more to do with the character.  

Anyway, that really wasn&#039;t the question.  The Sentry is an excellent answer to the first question - I can&#039;t dislike him because I don&#039;t ever consider him except when Marvel (Bendis) shoehorns him into a book.  But I couldn&#039;t give you an answer to the second part of the question, so...

I&#039;m gonna have to get back to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of the week is tough&#8230;I can come up with character&#8217;s I dislike pretty easily, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the same thing as being uninterested.  For instance, I have a long held opinion that the Hal Jordan GL is a d-bag, but I&#8217;ll concede you can tell interesting stories with him.  Along similar lines, as a big fan of the Flash, particularly the Wally West version, I&#8217;d point out that very few of my favorite stories have a whole lot to do with the powers and more to do with the character.  </p>
<p>Anyway, that really wasn&#8217;t the question.  The Sentry is an excellent answer to the first question &#8211; I can&#8217;t dislike him because I don&#8217;t ever consider him except when Marvel (Bendis) shoehorns him into a book.  But I couldn&#8217;t give you an answer to the second part of the question, so&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna have to get back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the comment about The Thing.  He is really such a cool character.  He&#039;s the toughest guy out there without hitting everyone over the head with how tough he is (e.g. Wolverine).  He&#039;s as heroic as Captain America or Superman without the speeches and the posing.  What other guy could pull off a superhero poker game and not have it seem ridiculous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the comment about The Thing.  He is really such a cool character.  He&#8217;s the toughest guy out there without hitting everyone over the head with how tough he is (e.g. Wolverine).  He&#8217;s as heroic as Captain America or Superman without the speeches and the posing.  What other guy could pull off a superhero poker game and not have it seem ridiculous?</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sentry. Every time he appears and we&#039;re told that he&#039;s really the bestest, most powerfullest, best friend of all the superheroes everywhere ever, and we the readers just don&#039;t remember, it immediately snaps me out of the story. Because the history of the Marvel Universe resonates strongly with fans because it&#039;s history they&#039;ve experienced; no matter how many times you tell me the Sentry and the Hulk are old friends, I don&#039;t feel it because I never saw it happen. It feels forced, awkward and dull. Maybe if everyone forgot him again, and he had to re-earn that trust and respect...but even then, he&#039;s just a lame Marvelman rip-off. :)

Also, the Winter Soldier. Sorry, but Bucky is lame. Making him into Grim-N-Gritty Cyborg Assassin Bucky makes him no less lame, any more than a fifteen-year-old boy growing a wispy mustache makes him twenty. It just makes him look silly. And having him beat the Red Skull doesn&#039;t make him cool, it just makes the Red Skull lamer because hey, he just got his butt kicked by Bucky. The more Brubaker tries to pump him up, the more it feels like authorial fiat is driving the stories instead of real characterization. I have no idea how you fix this one, to be honest. I&#039;d have left him dead.

Penance. &quot;Dark Speedball&quot; sounds like one of those concepts the 90s rejected because it was too pathetic and obvious an attempt to be &quot;edgy&quot; even for that decade. Make him fun again. If you don&#039;t want to tell stories with an actual fun, light-hearted character with goofy powers, then just put him back in his box until the trend comes around to that kind of story again. But making him an S&amp;M emo painfreak with a troubled past? Yeeeeah. Dan Slott nailed the absurdity of that one perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sentry. Every time he appears and we&#8217;re told that he&#8217;s really the bestest, most powerfullest, best friend of all the superheroes everywhere ever, and we the readers just don&#8217;t remember, it immediately snaps me out of the story. Because the history of the Marvel Universe resonates strongly with fans because it&#8217;s history they&#8217;ve experienced; no matter how many times you tell me the Sentry and the Hulk are old friends, I don&#8217;t feel it because I never saw it happen. It feels forced, awkward and dull. Maybe if everyone forgot him again, and he had to re-earn that trust and respect&#8230;but even then, he&#8217;s just a lame Marvelman rip-off. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, the Winter Soldier. Sorry, but Bucky is lame. Making him into Grim-N-Gritty Cyborg Assassin Bucky makes him no less lame, any more than a fifteen-year-old boy growing a wispy mustache makes him twenty. It just makes him look silly. And having him beat the Red Skull doesn&#8217;t make him cool, it just makes the Red Skull lamer because hey, he just got his butt kicked by Bucky. The more Brubaker tries to pump him up, the more it feels like authorial fiat is driving the stories instead of real characterization. I have no idea how you fix this one, to be honest. I&#8217;d have left him dead.</p>
<p>Penance. &#8220;Dark Speedball&#8221; sounds like one of those concepts the 90s rejected because it was too pathetic and obvious an attempt to be &#8220;edgy&#8221; even for that decade. Make him fun again. If you don&#8217;t want to tell stories with an actual fun, light-hearted character with goofy powers, then just put him back in his box until the trend comes around to that kind of story again. But making him an S&amp;M emo painfreak with a troubled past? Yeeeeah. Dan Slott nailed the absurdity of that one perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most boring DC hero is Red Tornado.  There is just nothing about the guy that has not been done better somewhere else.

However, Reddy is like four shots of espresso compared to the Punisher. I don&#039;t know that I have never made through an entire comic featuring the Punisher.  I have tried Frank Miller, Mike Baron and Garth Ennis multiple times.  I have loved the work of those guys on other characters.  It is always just the story of some jerk who likes to shoot people that wronged him.  I don&#039;t want to talk to the &quot;ninja&quot; who hangs out at the comic shop either.  

How to make him more interesting?

Maybe, if he lightened up a little.  You know, got some trick guns that shot glue or laughing gas.  Maybe he could get a teen sidekick with a gimmick.  Sort of bring in a wise-cracking kid that is into something goofy like break-dancing.  How about a dog with a skull mask named &quot;vendetta&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most boring DC hero is Red Tornado.  There is just nothing about the guy that has not been done better somewhere else.</p>
<p>However, Reddy is like four shots of espresso compared to the Punisher. I don&#8217;t know that I have never made through an entire comic featuring the Punisher.  I have tried Frank Miller, Mike Baron and Garth Ennis multiple times.  I have loved the work of those guys on other characters.  It is always just the story of some jerk who likes to shoot people that wronged him.  I don&#8217;t want to talk to the &#8220;ninja&#8221; who hangs out at the comic shop either.  </p>
<p>How to make him more interesting?</p>
<p>Maybe, if he lightened up a little.  You know, got some trick guns that shot glue or laughing gas.  Maybe he could get a teen sidekick with a gimmick.  Sort of bring in a wise-cracking kid that is into something goofy like break-dancing.  How about a dog with a skull mask named &#8220;vendetta&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the others here that Thor is pretty boring, and the Hulk is worse.  I&#039;m also very bored by Marvel&#039;s Hercules.  This wasn&#039;t my intent here, but looking at the ones I&#039;ve just picked, it&#039;s obvious that the common trait they share is extreme strength.  And I&#039;ve always found strength, of Hulk-Thor-Superman levels, to be very boring.  I&#039;ve never understood why the muscle-guys are so popular.  And why are writers always trying to increase the strength of the heroes they write?  If I were in charge of a major comics universe, there would be a strict limit on strength (maybe Thing-level, maximum), and on power in general.  We need more weak characters!  Who&#039;s with me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the others here that Thor is pretty boring, and the Hulk is worse.  I&#8217;m also very bored by Marvel&#8217;s Hercules.  This wasn&#8217;t my intent here, but looking at the ones I&#8217;ve just picked, it&#8217;s obvious that the common trait they share is extreme strength.  And I&#8217;ve always found strength, of Hulk-Thor-Superman levels, to be very boring.  I&#8217;ve never understood why the muscle-guys are so popular.  And why are writers always trying to increase the strength of the heroes they write?  If I were in charge of a major comics universe, there would be a strict limit on strength (maybe Thing-level, maximum), and on power in general.  We need more weak characters!  Who&#8217;s with me?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flash.  Inherently uninteresting.  He can run fast?  I can run fast.  You don&#039;t see me solving crimes.  He can run so fast that he can run through walls?  That makes absolutely no sense.  If they called me up and offered me that comic tomorrow, I would say &quot;no thanks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flash.  Inherently uninteresting.  He can run fast?  I can run fast.  You don&#8217;t see me solving crimes.  He can run so fast that he can run through walls?  That makes absolutely no sense.  If they called me up and offered me that comic tomorrow, I would say &#8220;no thanks.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for someone to wow me with a Flash story.  Waid and Morrison are so into him I figure there must be SOMEthing really cool about him and I just can&#039;t quite figure out what it is yet... but I&#039;m open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for someone to wow me with a Flash story.  Waid and Morrison are so into him I figure there must be SOMEthing really cool about him and I just can&#8217;t quite figure out what it is yet&#8230; but I&#8217;m open.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apodaca - I&#039;m not into the shit-kickin&#039; stuff either so much, for what it&#039;s worth.  Fraction&#039;s Thor stories are lovely mythological tales with beautiful, often poetic narration and classical storytelling, especially the first one.  It reads more like The Sandman than, for example, Garth Ennis&#039;s Thor.  The stories aren&#039;t &quot;TOTALLY METAL&quot; - although Thor himself kinda is, and it&#039;s a very striking characterization, quite different from the austerity ascribed to him by many of Marvel&#039;s writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apodaca &#8211; I&#8217;m not into the shit-kickin&#8217; stuff either so much, for what it&#8217;s worth.  Fraction&#8217;s Thor stories are lovely mythological tales with beautiful, often poetic narration and classical storytelling, especially the first one.  It reads more like The Sandman than, for example, Garth Ennis&#8217;s Thor.  The stories aren&#8217;t &#8220;TOTALLY METAL&#8221; &#8211; although Thor himself kinda is, and it&#8217;s a very striking characterization, quite different from the austerity ascribed to him by many of Marvel&#8217;s writers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave stole my answer. I&#039;ve been reading comics since the early sixties and have never gotten into the Flash,. Any of them. By rights, every single issue of the Flash should have been over after the first page.

This is a guy who can react to a bullet touching the back of his head and can evacuate a city in less than the time it takes a nuke to blow.

Yet his Rouges gallery is a bunch of bank robbers with ray guns.

Puh leese!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave stole my answer. I&#8217;ve been reading comics since the early sixties and have never gotten into the Flash,. Any of them. By rights, every single issue of the Flash should have been over after the first page.</p>
<p>This is a guy who can react to a bullet touching the back of his head and can evacuate a city in less than the time it takes a nuke to blow.</p>
<p>Yet his Rouges gallery is a bunch of bank robbers with ray guns.</p>
<p>Puh leese!</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar&#039;s description of Thor is definitely interesting, but I&#039;m not really enticed to read about that character. It does show me that more work has been done with Thor than I realized, though.

Fraction&#039;s Thor stuff looks completely boring to me. I&#039;m not into the shit-kickin&#039;-hardass-TOTALLY METAL-type stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar&#8217;s description of Thor is definitely interesting, but I&#8217;m not really enticed to read about that character. It does show me that more work has been done with Thor than I realized, though.</p>
<p>Fraction&#8217;s Thor stuff looks completely boring to me. I&#8217;m not into the shit-kickin&#8217;-hardass-TOTALLY METAL-type stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Zyduck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Zyduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man ... I had hoped enough time had passed that everyone would forget that there was a Pokemon called &quot;Psyduck.&quot; As usual, I have been proven AGGRESSIVELY WRONG.

And since I, too, enjoy this Question of the Week business: This may be heresey, but I&#039;ve never been interested in Ra&#039;s Al Ghul. I understand his place in Bat-history and what he represents, and I even think he should theoretically be interesting, but I&#039;ve just always found the character grating. A lot of it is things that have been picked up by other writers and have been made cliched through overuse -- the &quot;villain who believes he&#039;s in the right but uses extreme measures to accomplish his goals,&quot; the &quot;villain with a gentlemanly respect for his adversary,&quot; &quot;villain who knows hero&#039;s secret identity but will never let on.&quot; Vandal Savage has always been a more interesting application of the &quot;immortal villain&quot; trope simply because he&#039;s older (if you&#039;re going to use a gimmick, you might as well go all out) and because he&#039;s just plain nasty.

How to fix Ra&#039;s Al Ghul? Maybe getting rid of Talia would help; I always feel there&#039;s an oppressive amount of baggage to the Batman-Ra&#039;s-Talia triangle. Don&#039;t kill her, though, just sever her ties to Ra&#039;s and see if her character has a purpose beyond her relationships to Ra&#039;s and Batman. Also, I&#039;d maybe try him out as a Superman villain for a bit; anything to avoid another barechested swordfight in the desert. Keep him in the background, maybe make him the &quot;shadowy manipulator&quot; type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man &#8230; I had hoped enough time had passed that everyone would forget that there was a Pokemon called &#8220;Psyduck.&#8221; As usual, I have been proven AGGRESSIVELY WRONG.</p>
<p>And since I, too, enjoy this Question of the Week business: This may be heresey, but I&#8217;ve never been interested in Ra&#8217;s Al Ghul. I understand his place in Bat-history and what he represents, and I even think he should theoretically be interesting, but I&#8217;ve just always found the character grating. A lot of it is things that have been picked up by other writers and have been made cliched through overuse &#8212; the &#8220;villain who believes he&#8217;s in the right but uses extreme measures to accomplish his goals,&#8221; the &#8220;villain with a gentlemanly respect for his adversary,&#8221; &#8220;villain who knows hero&#8217;s secret identity but will never let on.&#8221; Vandal Savage has always been a more interesting application of the &#8220;immortal villain&#8221; trope simply because he&#8217;s older (if you&#8217;re going to use a gimmick, you might as well go all out) and because he&#8217;s just plain nasty.</p>
<p>How to fix Ra&#8217;s Al Ghul? Maybe getting rid of Talia would help; I always feel there&#8217;s an oppressive amount of baggage to the Batman-Ra&#8217;s-Talia triangle. Don&#8217;t kill her, though, just sever her ties to Ra&#8217;s and see if her character has a purpose beyond her relationships to Ra&#8217;s and Batman. Also, I&#8217;d maybe try him out as a Superman villain for a bit; anything to avoid another barechested swordfight in the desert. Keep him in the background, maybe make him the &#8220;shadowy manipulator&#8221; type.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it&#039;s Superman. I&#039;ve always found the character uninteresting, and even when hes being written by a writer a really like, such as Kurt Busiek, I just can&#039;t get that interested in him. Powering him down a lot and giving him some decent villains would maybe help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it&#8217;s Superman. I&#8217;ve always found the character uninteresting, and even when hes being written by a writer a really like, such as Kurt Busiek, I just can&#8217;t get that interested in him. Powering him down a lot and giving him some decent villains would maybe help.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sijo. The Hulk is the character that just bores me senseless and his take on Peter David is also correct. Reading Hulk over a long period of time you get the sense that the writers themselves have no idea what to do with him so they have to come up with increasingly strange gimmicks in order to find a story to tell, and then most of those stories aren&#039;t about Hulk, they&#039;re just about the gimmick with the Hulk thrown into it. He&#039;s Red, he&#039;s in space, he&#039;s a bouncer, he&#039;s a genius, he&#039;s, I dunno, President or whatever. Blah.

I would make Hulk more interesting by drastically reducing his face time. Cancel all his comics. Make him a very rare guest star. Since he&#039;s little more than a sounding board in his own comic for other ideas to bounce off of, make him into this full-time -- an anti-hero that pops up occasionally at the worst times to threaten other heroes or villains. He works fine as an antagonist driving the plot for other, more interesting characters, so lets treat him as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sijo. The Hulk is the character that just bores me senseless and his take on Peter David is also correct. Reading Hulk over a long period of time you get the sense that the writers themselves have no idea what to do with him so they have to come up with increasingly strange gimmicks in order to find a story to tell, and then most of those stories aren&#8217;t about Hulk, they&#8217;re just about the gimmick with the Hulk thrown into it. He&#8217;s Red, he&#8217;s in space, he&#8217;s a bouncer, he&#8217;s a genius, he&#8217;s, I dunno, President or whatever. Blah.</p>
<p>I would make Hulk more interesting by drastically reducing his face time. Cancel all his comics. Make him a very rare guest star. Since he&#8217;s little more than a sounding board in his own comic for other ideas to bounce off of, make him into this full-time &#8212; an anti-hero that pops up occasionally at the worst times to threaten other heroes or villains. He works fine as an antagonist driving the plot for other, more interesting characters, so lets treat him as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flash.  All of them.  I will never be able to care.  It&#039;s a ridiculously generic power amped to god-like levels to the point where nothing should pose a challenge to them.  It&#039;s like the problem some people have with Superman, except with none of the interesting backstory or character traits that actually make Superman noteworthy.  Every time I have to read something about the Flash in something like Morrison&#039;s JLA or Final Crisis, my eyes just immediately start to glaze over.

As to how to fix the character, I guess my take would be turn him into Quicksilver.  The Quicksilver segment of X-Factor #87 is still one of my favorite pieces of character writing in Superhero comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flash.  All of them.  I will never be able to care.  It&#8217;s a ridiculously generic power amped to god-like levels to the point where nothing should pose a challenge to them.  It&#8217;s like the problem some people have with Superman, except with none of the interesting backstory or character traits that actually make Superman noteworthy.  Every time I have to read something about the Flash in something like Morrison&#8217;s JLA or Final Crisis, my eyes just immediately start to glaze over.</p>
<p>As to how to fix the character, I guess my take would be turn him into Quicksilver.  The Quicksilver segment of X-Factor #87 is still one of my favorite pieces of character writing in Superhero comics.</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the major superheroes, I could never really get into The Hulk. Oh, I read plenty of Hulk comics, but only because of other characters appearing in them, and the stories were good sometimes as well. But the Hulk himself, as a character? Never appealed much to me. Maybe it&#039;s because he&#039;s too basic- he embodies anger and loneliness. Ok, got it, so what? Lots of other characters do it as well, and better. The closest I came to like him was when David was writing him, and that was mostly because of the *huge* changes he did- in effect, he was an entirely new character. And even then I didn&#039;t find him THAT interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the major superheroes, I could never really get into The Hulk. Oh, I read plenty of Hulk comics, but only because of other characters appearing in them, and the stories were good sometimes as well. But the Hulk himself, as a character? Never appealed much to me. Maybe it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s too basic- he embodies anger and loneliness. Ok, got it, so what? Lots of other characters do it as well, and better. The closest I came to like him was when David was writing him, and that was mostly because of the *huge* changes he did- in effect, he was an entirely new character. And even then I didn&#8217;t find him THAT interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous / Rod
There&#039;s also two zarjazz (sorry!) hardcovers, &#039;Thrill Power Overload&#039; -which is the history of 2000 AD and the &#039;Greatest Hits&#039; which covers a lot of bases, so is a fantastic taster, if you like!</description>
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There&#8217;s also two zarjazz (sorry!) hardcovers, &#8216;Thrill Power Overload&#8217; -which is the history of 2000 AD and the &#8216;Greatest Hits&#8217; which covers a lot of bases, so is a fantastic taster, if you like!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Djeljosevic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Djeljosevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Fraction described his Thor work as &quot;fantasy for people who hate Tolkien.&quot;

Mike Loughlin: Imagine a Justice League comic featuring mad robot Red Tornado and pompous, regal Geo-Force. And throw in annoyed, regal Aquaman for extra tension. I&#039;d buy that one WITHOUT waiting for the trades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Fraction described his Thor work as &#8220;fantasy for people who hate Tolkien.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike Loughlin: Imagine a Justice League comic featuring mad robot Red Tornado and pompous, regal Geo-Force. And throw in annoyed, regal Aquaman for extra tension. I&#8217;d buy that one WITHOUT waiting for the trades.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apodaca, Fraction&#039;s Thor one-shots from last year could cure that.  Thor as impetuous badass super-powerpowerful youth, who thunders his way through every scene.  Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apodaca, Fraction&#8217;s Thor one-shots from last year could cure that.  Thor as impetuous badass super-powerpowerful youth, who thunders his way through every scene.  Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Tornado, hands down, but Danny D. just wrote about him. I&#039;ll go with Geo-Force. He&#039;s boring and annoying. Like Danny, I&#039;d make him a comedy character.

I have a 4 1/2 year-old son who likes the Penguins of Madagascar cartoon. One of the characters, King Julius, is an ineffectual imperious lemur with delusions of grandeur and a long-suffering assistant. I&#039;d make Geo-Force like that. In his own mind, he&#039;s the greatest hero, one the others shouyld fall down and worship. In reality, he&#039;s a clod who makes situations worse just by opening his mouth. any action he takes leads to disaster. Everyone else looks on with exasperation and has to clean up his messes. He&#039;s on the Justice League because no one can kick him out- even Batman can&#039;t get through to him. Either Giffen, DeMatteis, &amp; Maguire or Evanier &amp; Aragones would do the comic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Tornado, hands down, but Danny D. just wrote about him. I&#8217;ll go with Geo-Force. He&#8217;s boring and annoying. Like Danny, I&#8217;d make him a comedy character.</p>
<p>I have a 4 1/2 year-old son who likes the Penguins of Madagascar cartoon. One of the characters, King Julius, is an ineffectual imperious lemur with delusions of grandeur and a long-suffering assistant. I&#8217;d make Geo-Force like that. In his own mind, he&#8217;s the greatest hero, one the others shouyld fall down and worship. In reality, he&#8217;s a clod who makes situations worse just by opening his mouth. any action he takes leads to disaster. Everyone else looks on with exasperation and has to clean up his messes. He&#8217;s on the Justice League because no one can kick him out- even Batman can&#8217;t get through to him. Either Giffen, DeMatteis, &amp; Maguire or Evanier &amp; Aragones would do the comic.</p>
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