Comments on: Is There Anything to See on this Batman and Robin #3 Cover?

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:13:11 +0000

46% of us are crazy.

quietly says there’s nothing to it:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/09/06/is-this-the-greatest-swipe-file-of-all-time/

By: Earlofthercs

Earlofthercs — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:11:21 +0000

If it was was anybody else writing the comic= unintentional. The Morrison/Quietly team? Got to be intentional.

By: B

Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:06:15 +0000

“that’s what it’s like to grow up UPSIDE DOWN in a world where a HUG is a CRUCIFIXION”

By: Rob Schmidt

Rob Schmidt — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:27:42 +0000

http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1941644/?view=results

Unintentional wins as of Thursday morning. I voted for intentional.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:21:50 +0000

It works – you don’t need to go anywhere – the results are visible in the thread.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:05:14 +0000

Cool!
If that works and we have to go there to see it, and if anyone else wants to http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1941644/ takes you to the poll there.
(Their search function isn’t the greatest – still in beta stages).

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:24:03 +0000

Sorry, Ben, I’ll see if I can make it public – I didn’t mean to make it private.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:21:36 +0000

Is there a way to see the results of the poll?

I went to the polldaddy answers site, but it was set to ‘private’.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:32:17 +0000

You people need to get a life….why don’t you put in on a turntable, spin it backwards and listen to see if there’s a message that says: “Bruce Wayne is alive”?

If I had a life I’m sure I’d just waste it insulting strangers on comic blogs…

By: Roman

Roman — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:22:13 +0000

If you look at the cover rotated and not mirrored, it looks much more Joker-like.

By: harry

harry — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:52:07 +0000

You people need to get a life….why don’t you put in on a turntable, spin it backwards and listen to see if there’s a message that says: “Bruce Wayne is alive”?

By: Rob Schmidt

Rob Schmidt — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:43:23 +0000

Well, what are the poll results?

By: Stefan Yong

Stefan Yong — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:52:36 +0000

I think the question is who intended it, Morrison or Quitely?

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:40:18 +0000

I say coincidence. You’d have to get not only Frank Quitely but the layout people in on the joke too, the guys who place the logos, and I don’t think you’d be able to coordinate that many people just to get a homage that you can only see when you turn it upside down.

It may well be a coincidence, but there wouldn’t be that many people to co-ordinate with – thanks to computers it wouldn’t take one person very long to lay that comic out… Quietly or the ditor could have done it themselves.

Depending on how they do their layouts there’s: the art, the reborn banner/logo (I’d assume that’s the one strap), book logo, creator credits and barcode.
That’s five layers on a photoshop type program (maybe more if the art came in different files for inks and colours) – you don’t need a team to put that cover together.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:12:02 +0000

Yeah, Rob, that’s why I didn’t mind using it (the fellow who suggested the idea had that as his image and since the reverse really didn’t affect the image’s appearance, that’s what I used).

By: Rob Schmidt

Rob Schmidt — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:09:50 +0000

Not sure why you gave us a mirror image, Brian. Doesn’t the regular upside-down image look about the same as the mirror upside-down image?

By: Chris Jones

Chris Jones — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:33:56 +0000

I say coincidence. You’d have to get not only Frank Quitely but the layout people in on the joke too, the guys who place the logos, and I don’t think you’d be able to coordinate that many people just to get a homage that you can only see when you turn it upside down.

By: Atman

Atman — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:39:16 +0000

Totally intentional. Not only does it look similar, but, as others have pointed out, the whole issue is filled with references to the Killing Joke. Then, just to drive it home, who shows up in the very last panel?

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:47:46 +0000

I voted intentional after reading Cass’s post – it may be a reach, but sometimes unintentional parallels are just as good intentional ones.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:45:39 +0000

I’ve been torn over this one all night… when I look at my cover upside down I see it… but when I’m away from it, I start thinking about what an obscure way to do a homage/reference it is.
(And I also get to thinking I’ve got to try out my ‘Holy Toast’ toast stamp at some point – you stamp it on bread, and when you put the bread in the toaster, a picture of Jesus appears on it).

But, I did think it was a mess of a cover when I first saw it – totally unlike any of Quietly’s other covers… and he’s a very methodical artist, who thinks everything through…

Eh. All Grant Morrison ever did is ride on the coattails of Alan Moore…

Actually, Morrison isn’t a fan of Moore’s at all – Gaiman is the one who used Moore to get gigs.

Apart from being part of the ‘British invasion’, started because DC liked Moore, in what other way has Morrison ever rid on Moore’s coattails?