Comments on: Top 70 Most Iconic Marvel Panels of All-Time: #40-31

By: 8thlight

8thlight — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:55:40 +0000

It’s a crime that the Kingpin panel is this low. That panel is in my top ten easily.

I also don’t know how Peter Parker getting bitten isn’t hands down the number one panel.

*shakes head in disgust*

By: Frank

Frank — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:06:06 +0000

Not a bad story but Perez crapped on it. Look at Perez drawing Cap, Iron Man ans Thor in the Avengers in the 70s compared to his 90s stuff with Busiek. In the 70s, all of these looked cool. In the 90s they looked rushed and scratchy. And Thor’s face was ugly as Hell. I think he missed Sinott, Pablo Marco or he should have inked his own stuff.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:35:08 +0000

I liked that Ultron Unlimited stuff. They fought through a million Ultron robots to get there! WOO!

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:43:18 +0000

I never liked #32. I think Perez’s work on this series was mediocre.

By: Eric

Eric — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:03:01 +0000

I had 35 and 31 in my top 10. The idea of the new Avengers roster posing for the press began with 35, and that is such a visual way of differentiating them from every other team in the Marvel Universe (X-Men aren’t media-friendly, Fantastic Four has a pretty static roster, Defenders aren’t that organized. Plus it was the official introduction of what had to be a controversial new roster, one sans any founding members. Lastly, all three of those new members went on to really become essential Avengers.

I think 31 sums up the X-Men better than any panel. Nightcrawler looks like a monster, but the real villain is the religious guy. Also, it really illustrates a world that HATES and FEARS mutants.

By: Las viñetas más icónicas de Marvel Comics « culturacomic.com

Las viñetas más icónicas de Marvel Comics « culturacomic.com — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:48:59 +0000

[...] La gente de Comic Book Resources lo prometió, y parece dispuesto a cumplirlo: Tenemos a continuación el resto de las viñetas más icónicas de Marvel Comics. Algunas son verdaderos clásicos, que seguramente todos recordamos, algunas podríamos ponerlas en seria duda con respecto a la elección. Pero lo que si no podemos poner en entredicho es que es un trabajo digno de tomarse en cuenta, así que los dejamos para que los vean y los disfrutene, solo esta liga (60-51), esta (70-61) y esta otra (40-31). [...]

By: Johnny Rocket

Johnny Rocket — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:35:44 +0000

How can you look at that Avengers panel with Thor saying “Ultron, we would have words with thee” and not think Bendis-Avengers has been one huge, navel gazing, time killer?

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:11:07 +0000

The first of my pics has made the list (“Nice work Kingpin”) so I’ve got 9 in the top 30!

The spider-bite could have made my list on a different day. As an event it is certainly iconic, but I couldn’t have actually told you from memory what the panel looked like. In that respect it’s quite forgettable.

By: Daryll B

Daryll B — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:22:55 +0000

Half my picks gone….now I REALLY interested to see what made the top 20…

By: LouReedRichards

LouReedRichards — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:31:55 +0000

My apologies to Mr. Perez, he’s never been one of my favorites, but that artwork did look quite sup par for him.
I’m not well versed about Marvel in that period, didn’t realize he was just doing breakdowns.

By: benday-dot

benday-dot — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:42:23 +0000

I honestly thought that radioactive spider bite panel would be vying for number#1. Very surprised!

By: Mike Loughlin

Mike Loughlin — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:22:08 +0000

The X-Men panel is the first appearance of the “new” X-Men as a team. In the context of the comic, it’s pretty impressive. I think I even voted for it, although I can’t remember.

To be fair to Perez, a good deal of his ’90s Avengers work was credited as “breakdowns,” with Al Vey doing “finishes.” He wasn’t doing his tightest pencils. As much as I like his art, and that Avengers series, I don’t think anyone’s going to list it as his artistic highlight. Compare it to, say, Hulk: Future Imperfect, or the Crossgen Chronicles stories he did a couple years later, and the difference is telling.

It’s amazing that McFarlane’s depiction of Spider-Man was the norm for so many years. The speghetti webbing and impossible anatomy became mainstays. Thank you, Brian, for not putting in a panel with the word “advantageous.”

By: T.

T. — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:17:42 +0000

I remember it recently being homaged in a Daniel Way Wolverine story, drawn by Michael Deodato I believe? I’m talking a book as recently as last year.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:07:49 +0000

I don’t think it’s been homaged

It has.

By: beta ray steve

beta ray steve — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:06:58 +0000

I’m surprised the “..And then there was one” X-Men panel did so well. It’s basically the X-Men standing around. I don’t think it’s been homaged & it’s not particularly dramatic. It’s good Dave Cockrum art, but “iconic”?

By: T.

T. — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:10:51 +0000

If all 10 of the top panels came from AMAZING FANTASY #15 and FANTASTIC FOUR #1, I wouldn’t find that strange or remarkable. Who’s with me on this?

I’m with you. But then again I wouldn’t be bothered if all 70 panels came from Lee/Kirby FF and Lee/Ditko Spider-Man runs.

By: Rob Schmidt

Rob Schmidt — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:05:28 +0000

If all 10 of the top panels came from AMAZING FANTASY #15 and FANTASTIC FOUR #1, I wouldn’t find that strange or remarkable. Who’s with me on this?

By: The Crazed Spruce

The Crazed Spruce — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:01:49 +0000

Well, the Ultron panel brings me up to 2. (I’m surprised the “God Loves, Man Kills” panel ranked out of the Top 20, though.)

By: Rob Schmidt

Rob Schmidt — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:58:00 +0000

Re “Can anybody explain anything I’m missing? (besides how cool it is; I get that)”

Yes. People have confused cool, awesome, or great with “iconic.” The relatively mundane panels telling the origin of Spider-Man, the FF, and Captain America are iconic because they’ve been repeated so many times. Because people can identify them with a glance or a couple of words. Because they form the basis of the entire Marvel universe.

But Peter saying “Ow” isn’t as dramatic, cool, or macho as Thor busting down a wall and saying, “We would have words with thee.”

Re “No, I do feel a little guilty about not voting for the Spider-bite. I went for the burglar catching scene instead and decided my list was already getting Spider-Man heavy.”

Too many Spider-Man panels? Is there some reason Marvel’s most iconic panels SHOULDN’T come from the first few issues of its flagship titles? The challenge wasn’t to pick ten panels that represent Marvel’s growth, diversity, and awesomeness over the decades. It was to pick the most iconic panels in Marvel history.

By: LouReedRichards

LouReedRichards — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:37:47 +0000

To me an iconic panels historical significance is far more important than how visually remarkable it is.

I can think of lots of iconic panels that aren’t terribly well drawn or composed, but they stand the test of time because of the history associated with them and how many times that panel is referenced in future stories.

I agree that the spider bite panel isn’t anywhere near Ditko’s best work, but it’s one of the first panels, if not the first I think of when I think of Spider-Man.

I do of course realize this is all very subjective.