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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was Waid take on the character?</description>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)  Why wait for the trade?  This Aquaman run is available for LESS than a trade.  I find lots of&#039;em, esp. on eBay, for a buck apiece.  (Since many were after the collapse, and had much lower print runs, that should tell you something...)

2)  I remember the McLaughlin run.  It seemed mediocre, until PAD took over.  Suddenly it seemed like the greatest run ever.

3)  I hate every page of the PAD run.  The changes to the character were absolutely unnecessary.  Just another crappy trendy change in an era overrun with crappy trendy changes.  Bah.

4)  With all the robotic/cybernetic technology in the DCU, it is IDIOTIC that Aquaman wear a frickin harpoon.

5)  Which is only slightly more pathetic than depowering Aquaman just so pirahna can chew off his hand (for the purpose of the aforementioned idiotic harpoon).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  Why wait for the trade?  This Aquaman run is available for LESS than a trade.  I find lots of&#8217;em, esp. on eBay, for a buck apiece.  (Since many were after the collapse, and had much lower print runs, that should tell you something&#8230;)</p>
<p>2)  I remember the McLaughlin run.  It seemed mediocre, until PAD took over.  Suddenly it seemed like the greatest run ever.</p>
<p>3)  I hate every page of the PAD run.  The changes to the character were absolutely unnecessary.  Just another crappy trendy change in an era overrun with crappy trendy changes.  Bah.</p>
<p>4)  With all the robotic/cybernetic technology in the DCU, it is IDIOTIC that Aquaman wear a frickin harpoon.</p>
<p>5)  Which is only slightly more pathetic than depowering Aquaman just so pirahna can chew off his hand (for the purpose of the aforementioned idiotic harpoon).</p>
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		<title>By: Comics You Should Own Archive &#124; Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics You Should Own Archive &#124; Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aquaman #0-25 by Peter David, Martin Egelund, and Jim Califiore. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scavenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I loved PAD&#039;s run...I also liked McLaughlin&#039;s. I like Superheroes in government stories (like Rucka&#039;s Wonder Woman and Priest&#039;s...everything)

An interesting comparison to make is PAD&#039;s Aquman as King not hero to Priest&#039;s Panther as King not hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I loved PAD&#8217;s run&#8230;I also liked McLaughlin&#8217;s. I like Superheroes in government stories (like Rucka&#8217;s Wonder Woman and Priest&#8217;s&#8230;everything)</p>
<p>An interesting comparison to make is PAD&#8217;s Aquman as King not hero to Priest&#8217;s Panther as King not hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Paul Bartilucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent Paul Bartilucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an Aquaman purist and I didn&#039;t care for PAD&#039;s take on Aquaman at all.  The idea that McLaughlin&#039;s wonderful run on the Sea King was cut short for this extended &quot;Aquaman has a mid-life crisis&quot; riff really, really, really bothers me.  Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Aquaman purist and I didn&#8217;t care for PAD&#8217;s take on Aquaman at all.  The idea that McLaughlin&#8217;s wonderful run on the Sea King was cut short for this extended &#8220;Aquaman has a mid-life crisis&#8221; riff really, really, really bothers me.  Really.</p>
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		<title>By: kalorama</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalorama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own this run and I have to say I wasn&#039;t very taken with it. Admittedly I had limited knowledge of the character beforehand, but David&#039;s take seemed off-note to me, like a forced attempt to give him some &quot;edge.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own this run and I have to say I wasn&#8217;t very taken with it. Admittedly I had limited knowledge of the character beforehand, but David&#8217;s take seemed off-note to me, like a forced attempt to give him some &#8220;edge.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, the Comics Treadmill post is pretty harsh.  I think the problem some people have with this run is that, like H, they didn&#039;t think Aquaman was very &quot;heroic.&quot;  My point is that Aquaman isn&#039;t necessarily a superhero, he&#039;s a king.  Yes, he&#039;s cranky in this arc, but I read this as a man who has lost his kingdom and is trying to regain it against several odds.  That&#039;s what makes it interesting.  Aquaman as superhero CAN be done well (Morrison&#039;s take in JLA, for instance), but that&#039;s not really what he cares about.  He cares about being a king.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, the Comics Treadmill post is pretty harsh.  I think the problem some people have with this run is that, like H, they didn&#8217;t think Aquaman was very &#8220;heroic.&#8221;  My point is that Aquaman isn&#8217;t necessarily a superhero, he&#8217;s a king.  Yes, he&#8217;s cranky in this arc, but I read this as a man who has lost his kingdom and is trying to regain it against several odds.  That&#8217;s what makes it interesting.  Aquaman as superhero CAN be done well (Morrison&#8217;s take in JLA, for instance), but that&#8217;s not really what he cares about.  He cares about being a king.</p>
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		<title>By: Keg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Peter David Aquaman run is something I&#039;ve always wanted to read but none of it is in Trade!! Sometimes I dislike being a DC Fan.....</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was the spam filter. Wish I could un-spam my own posts. I blame the URL HTML. Anyway:

I do love sticking up for the McLaughlin series, mostly because so few people remember it existed-- and because it served as my introduction to the character way back when, and now I won&#039;t shut up about Aquaman without a sedative.

I&#039;ll be honest when I say I haven&#039;t read too many consecutive David issues; I pick up pretty much all of my Aqua-books out of the cheapie bins, so what I get is what I get (and that practice has given me a bit of a renewed appreciation for Busiek&#039;s Sword of Atlantis series). David likes to change things, usually in an organic manner, and once you buy into his portrayals of the characters and his revamped environment, you really start to see all the cool stuff. I still resist the uber-90s-reworking of Aquaman here, though; the long hair, the beard, the constant irritability, the harpoon (I don&#039;t think piranhas should even be able to pierce Aquaman&#039;s skin, dammit!) It feels like overkill. It feels like Namor. But, you know, it was the longest-running Aquaman series and the height of his post-Superfriends popularity, so what are ya gonna do?

The Comic Treadmill just put up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009/2009_Individual/2009_09/001987.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a post on the early part of David&#039;s Aqua-run&lt;/a&gt; this week, as well. Synchronicity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the spam filter. Wish I could un-spam my own posts. I blame the URL HTML. Anyway:</p>
<p>I do love sticking up for the McLaughlin series, mostly because so few people remember it existed&#8211; and because it served as my introduction to the character way back when, and now I won&#8217;t shut up about Aquaman without a sedative.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be honest when I say I haven&#8217;t read too many consecutive David issues; I pick up pretty much all of my Aqua-books out of the cheapie bins, so what I get is what I get (and that practice has given me a bit of a renewed appreciation for Busiek&#8217;s Sword of Atlantis series). David likes to change things, usually in an organic manner, and once you buy into his portrayals of the characters and his revamped environment, you really start to see all the cool stuff. I still resist the uber-90s-reworking of Aquaman here, though; the long hair, the beard, the constant irritability, the harpoon (I don&#8217;t think piranhas should even be able to pierce Aquaman&#8217;s skin, dammit!) It feels like overkill. It feels like Namor. But, you know, it was the longest-running Aquaman series and the height of his post-Superfriends popularity, so what are ya gonna do?</p>
<p>The Comic Treadmill just put up <a href="http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009/2009_Individual/2009_09/001987.php" rel="nofollow">a post on the early part of David&#8217;s Aqua-run</a> this week, as well. Synchronicity!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurm, my reply&#039;s not showing up for some reason. Did the spam filter eat me? Well... eat me, spam filter!</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do love sticking up for the McLaughlin series, mostly because so few people remember it existed-- and because it served as my introduction to the character way back when, and now I won&#039;t shut up about Aquaman without a sedative.

I&#039;ll be honest when I say I haven&#039;t read too many consecutive David issues; I pick up pretty much all of my Aqua-books out of the cheapie bins, so what I get is what I get (and that practice has given me a bit of a renewed appreciation for Busiek&#039;s Sword of Atlantis series). David likes to change things, usually in an organic manner, and once you buy into his portrayals of the characters and his revamped environment, you really start to see all the cool stuff. I still resist the uber-90s-reworking of Aquaman here, though; the long hair, the beard, the constant irritability, the harpoon (I don&#039;t think piranhas should even be able to pierce Aquaman&#039;s skin, dammit!) It feels like overkill. It feels like Namor. But, you know, it was the longest-running Aquaman series and the height of his post-Superfriends popularity, so what are ya gonna do?

The Comic Treadmill just put up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009/2009_Individual/2009_09/001987.php&quot;a post on the early part of David&#039;s Aqua-run&lt;/a&gt; this week, as well. Synchronicity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do love sticking up for the McLaughlin series, mostly because so few people remember it existed&#8211; and because it served as my introduction to the character way back when, and now I won&#8217;t shut up about Aquaman without a sedative.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be honest when I say I haven&#8217;t read too many consecutive David issues; I pick up pretty much all of my Aqua-books out of the cheapie bins, so what I get is what I get (and that practice has given me a bit of a renewed appreciation for Busiek&#8217;s Sword of Atlantis series). David likes to change things, usually in an organic manner, and once you buy into his portrayals of the characters and his revamped environment, you really start to see all the cool stuff. I still resist the uber-90s-reworking of Aquaman here, though; the long hair, the beard, the constant irritability, the harpoon (I don&#8217;t think piranhas should even be able to pierce Aquaman&#8217;s skin, dammit!) It feels like overkill. It feels like Namor. But, you know, it was the longest-running Aquaman series and the height of his post-Superfriends popularity, so what are ya gonna do?</p>
<p>The Comic Treadmill just put up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2009/2009_Individual/2009_09/001987.php&quot;a post on the early part of David&#039;s Aqua-run this week, as well. Synchronicity!</p>
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		<title>By: Black Manta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Manta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess I&#039;m in a minority but I liked the McLaughlin run better. I also liked the 70 series better. I&#039;m not saying PAD&#039;s run was bad, but at times I feel like he was trying too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess I&#8217;m in a minority but I liked the McLaughlin run better. I also liked the 70 series better. I&#8217;m not saying PAD&#8217;s run was bad, but at times I feel like he was trying too hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultimate Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultimate Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only thing I disagree with is that my favorite arc on this book was issues 28 (or thereabouts) through to around issue 37, the whole &quot;mutating aquaman&quot;&quot; story through to his battle with Poseidon (that issue, by the way, turned me into a Calafiore fan). Otherwise, yeah, awesome run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only thing I disagree with is that my favorite arc on this book was issues 28 (or thereabouts) through to around issue 37, the whole &#8220;mutating aquaman&#8221;" story through to his battle with Poseidon (that issue, by the way, turned me into a Calafiore fan). Otherwise, yeah, awesome run.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam: David&#039;s decline on this book, I think, has to do with DC editorial more than anything.  The post #25 issues are certainly not horrible comics, but they lack the overall unity and energy that these do.  And toward the end of his run, he started pitching ideas that DC didn&#039;t want to do, until he just ditched the book.  Much like the Hulk!  I think David would be perfectly happy writing these comics until he dropped dead, but whenever the Powers-That-Be start dictating to him, he takes his ball and goes home.  Nothing wrong with that, actually.  But that seems to be the only way to get him to leave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam: David&#8217;s decline on this book, I think, has to do with DC editorial more than anything.  The post #25 issues are certainly not horrible comics, but they lack the overall unity and energy that these do.  And toward the end of his run, he started pitching ideas that DC didn&#8217;t want to do, until he just ditched the book.  Much like the Hulk!  I think David would be perfectly happy writing these comics until he dropped dead, but whenever the Powers-That-Be start dictating to him, he takes his ball and goes home.  Nothing wrong with that, actually.  But that seems to be the only way to get him to leave!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar: Yeah, if I had written this today, I would have focused more on Ocean Master, because you&#039;re spot on with the analysis.  These have gottten longer over the years, and back then I was writing a lot less about each book I spotlighted.  And David dedicates one of the issues to Pozner (I&#039;m fairly certain it was right after he died), so he, at least, was aware of the debt he owed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar: Yeah, if I had written this today, I would have focused more on Ocean Master, because you&#8217;re spot on with the analysis.  These have gottten longer over the years, and back then I was writing a lot less about each book I spotlighted.  And David dedicates one of the issues to Pozner (I&#8217;m fairly certain it was right after he died), so he, at least, was aware of the debt he owed.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea behind Aquaman taking and keeping the harpoon-hand was almost entirely that he was going a bit crazy in the early part of the run.

What I found interesting was that David didn&#039;t fall into the trap of having Aquaman become Stabby-Man even with the harpoon.  Instead, it was a way to first bring in some versatility -- the STAR labs gadget-laden version -- and other than that it was what kept him at a distance from everyone around him, that distancing being one of the major character flaws on display in the run.

#14 is one of my favorites; it&#039;s a shame only David and Mark Waid seemed interested in writing this version of Major Disaster, a human butterfly effect who could topple the world if he weren&#039;t a fundamentally lazy and unambitious punk.  I suppose the contrivances his new, less physical powers relied upon were too much for most writers, because he was back to a diluted version of his old powers rather quickly as I recall.

The Ocean Master stuff deserves some special mention, too, given how well David uses the character as a dark mirror for Aquaman, in such a way that we see a lot about Orin/Arthur because the story&#039;s telling us all about Orm.  Like Aquaman, he&#039;s become a ruler when we see him; he even has a dangerous, distancing accoutrement in the form of a magic staff that fries everything around if he loosens his grip on it.  But Orm&#039;s taken that burden on entirely by choice, and he&#039;s singularly incapable of the responsiblity of dealing with it.  

As a king, he has no answers when his people are threatened; as a man, he foolishly enters a relationship with one of his subjects and constantly ignores the dangers of his new mystical abilities, scarring hismelf and her physically and metaphorically.  And finally, when Aquaman shows up with real and global problems in search of help, Orm&#039;s pettiness and irresponsibility end with his blowing up his own kingdom, his lover, and his subjects as he snaps under that pressure.  

It&#039;s telling us, in effect, what Arthur/Orin might become, is close to becoming, and ultimately can&#039;t become...far more than the Kordax stuff in the same run, as Orm is closer to what Orin is than Kordax.  It&#039;s a clever use of the &quot;dark mirror&quot; kind of character, by ignoring the parallels but lettinbg the reader see them, and then by focusing on Orm and letting that focus suggest -- but never explicitly state -- the brighter parallels in Aquaman at a point in the narrative when the hero isn&#039;t displaying much of that underlying &quot;right stuff.&quot;

I should note that Neal Pozner deserves a lot of credit for introducing some of those character ideas in the great little 1987 mini he did with the gorgeous Craig Hamilton art.  (Peter David explicitly references that with his take on Ocean Master and Hy-Brasil, even allowing a little violation of the Pre-Crisis memories ban just to give us some flashbacks to it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea behind Aquaman taking and keeping the harpoon-hand was almost entirely that he was going a bit crazy in the early part of the run.</p>
<p>What I found interesting was that David didn&#8217;t fall into the trap of having Aquaman become Stabby-Man even with the harpoon.  Instead, it was a way to first bring in some versatility &#8212; the STAR labs gadget-laden version &#8212; and other than that it was what kept him at a distance from everyone around him, that distancing being one of the major character flaws on display in the run.</p>
<p>#14 is one of my favorites; it&#8217;s a shame only David and Mark Waid seemed interested in writing this version of Major Disaster, a human butterfly effect who could topple the world if he weren&#8217;t a fundamentally lazy and unambitious punk.  I suppose the contrivances his new, less physical powers relied upon were too much for most writers, because he was back to a diluted version of his old powers rather quickly as I recall.</p>
<p>The Ocean Master stuff deserves some special mention, too, given how well David uses the character as a dark mirror for Aquaman, in such a way that we see a lot about Orin/Arthur because the story&#8217;s telling us all about Orm.  Like Aquaman, he&#8217;s become a ruler when we see him; he even has a dangerous, distancing accoutrement in the form of a magic staff that fries everything around if he loosens his grip on it.  But Orm&#8217;s taken that burden on entirely by choice, and he&#8217;s singularly incapable of the responsiblity of dealing with it.  </p>
<p>As a king, he has no answers when his people are threatened; as a man, he foolishly enters a relationship with one of his subjects and constantly ignores the dangers of his new mystical abilities, scarring hismelf and her physically and metaphorically.  And finally, when Aquaman shows up with real and global problems in search of help, Orm&#8217;s pettiness and irresponsibility end with his blowing up his own kingdom, his lover, and his subjects as he snaps under that pressure.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s telling us, in effect, what Arthur/Orin might become, is close to becoming, and ultimately can&#8217;t become&#8230;far more than the Kordax stuff in the same run, as Orm is closer to what Orin is than Kordax.  It&#8217;s a clever use of the &#8220;dark mirror&#8221; kind of character, by ignoring the parallels but lettinbg the reader see them, and then by focusing on Orm and letting that focus suggest &#8212; but never explicitly state &#8212; the brighter parallels in Aquaman at a point in the narrative when the hero isn&#8217;t displaying much of that underlying &#8220;right stuff.&#8221;</p>
<p>I should note that Neal Pozner deserves a lot of credit for introducing some of those character ideas in the great little 1987 mini he did with the gorgeous Craig Hamilton art.  (Peter David explicitly references that with his take on Ocean Master and Hy-Brasil, even allowing a little violation of the Pre-Crisis memories ban just to give us some flashbacks to it.)</p>
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		<title>By: joecab</title>
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		<dc:creator>joecab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came in late on Peter David&#039;s run on the Hulk. but I loved it. I gotta read those earlier stories someday ...

 But I can&#039;t stand that whole harpoon-for-a-hand bit  he did with Aquaman. It was just the most illogical decision ever. When fans complained Peter said it was because they&#039;re so resistant to change but ... PETER. COME ON NOW. You go replace your hand with a sharp knife and tell me what it&#039;s like after a week. For someone who&#039;s such a brainy and entertaining writer, that one little decision stood out like one big sore thumb. I mean harpoon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came in late on Peter David&#8217;s run on the Hulk. but I loved it. I gotta read those earlier stories someday &#8230;</p>
<p> But I can&#8217;t stand that whole harpoon-for-a-hand bit  he did with Aquaman. It was just the most illogical decision ever. When fans complained Peter said it was because they&#8217;re so resistant to change but &#8230; PETER. COME ON NOW. You go replace your hand with a sharp knife and tell me what it&#8217;s like after a week. For someone who&#8217;s such a brainy and entertaining writer, that one little decision stood out like one big sore thumb. I mean harpoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Bather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Bather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a great run I gotta say. Peter David made Aquaman a fully fleshed out character and it never really seemed like a typical superhero book. It was a brave, sprawling series that was pretty consistent entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great run I gotta say. Peter David made Aquaman a fully fleshed out character and it never really seemed like a typical superhero book. It was a brave, sprawling series that was pretty consistent entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat Skyfire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat Skyfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this run.  I didn&#039;t know much about Aquaman (or comics in general) when I started reading it.  To be honest, I picked it up because he looked different (the beard, the chest armor) and fell for the story.  One of the challenges writers face with him is deciding just WHO he is.  David&#039;s playing with his &#039;I&#039;m the king of everything under the surface&quot; made a lot of sense to me.  The idea that Aquaman isn&#039;t just &#039;the guy who needs water every ten minutes in the Superfriends...oh, and he talks to fish.  Weeeee.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this run.  I didn&#8217;t know much about Aquaman (or comics in general) when I started reading it.  To be honest, I picked it up because he looked different (the beard, the chest armor) and fell for the story.  One of the challenges writers face with him is deciding just WHO he is.  David&#8217;s playing with his &#8216;I&#8217;m the king of everything under the surface&#8221; made a lot of sense to me.  The idea that Aquaman isn&#8217;t just &#8216;the guy who needs water every ten minutes in the Superfriends&#8230;oh, and he talks to fish.  Weeeee.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Whitmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Whitmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved this stuff. It was the first time I really started to think of Aquaman as a king, with all that implies, instead of just another vigilante.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this stuff. It was the first time I really started to think of Aquaman as a king, with all that implies, instead of just another vigilante.</p>
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