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		<title>By: Dan Felty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Felty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above was me, two days ago.  Wouldn&#039;t want to confuse anybody!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankenstein&#039;s Womb sounds like it could be a real winner.  Ellis sure writes a lot of stuff.

I forgot about Batman and Robin!  I really need to check it out.  Was this Quitely&#039;s last issue?

I thought about getting Doom Patrol for the Metal Men backup, but they have been collecting them separately, and it was four dollars.  I spent 50 cents on an issue of JLI instead.

You used nine semi-colons; my guess was two (it could have been a trick question!).

Full disclosure question:  do you receive anything of value for from HeavyInk or DCBS?  That plug at the beginning seemed odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankenstein&#8217;s Womb sounds like it could be a real winner.  Ellis sure writes a lot of stuff.</p>
<p>I forgot about Batman and Robin!  I really need to check it out.  Was this Quitely&#8217;s last issue?</p>
<p>I thought about getting Doom Patrol for the Metal Men backup, but they have been collecting them separately, and it was four dollars.  I spent 50 cents on an issue of JLI instead.</p>
<p>You used nine semi-colons; my guess was two (it could have been a trick question!).</p>
<p>Full disclosure question:  do you receive anything of value for from HeavyInk or DCBS?  That plug at the beginning seemed odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitz the Bloody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitz the Bloody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to have misinterpreted the intent of Giffen&#039;s Doom Patrol, because while he is writing it dark ( which, in any setting outside a Silver Age one, has to be there to some extent with Doom Patrol ), he&#039;s not writing it overly seriously. It&#039;s really bleak humor, with the heroics not as a calling, but a way for the characters to distract themselves from despair. Fun is the ability to laugh instead of cry when those are the only two options that occur, and optimism is waking up one morning and not wanting to die. Since the cast includes a human brain in a conspicuously mechanical body and a deformed burn victim whose power leaves him incapacitated and deteriorating while the &quot; negative spirit &quot; does all the work, I think that simply being able to function is a heroic act for most of them.

Similarly, the death of Nudge wasn&#039;t meant for angst, it was meant to illustrate how dark the book is that the teen girl could be KIA and the others simply view her death as an occupational hazard. It also offers one bit of connective tissue to the recent past that keeps this Doom Patrol from being yet another complete reboot, but if you don&#039;t know who Nudge is, she works fine just as cannon fodder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have misinterpreted the intent of Giffen&#8217;s Doom Patrol, because while he is writing it dark ( which, in any setting outside a Silver Age one, has to be there to some extent with Doom Patrol ), he&#8217;s not writing it overly seriously. It&#8217;s really bleak humor, with the heroics not as a calling, but a way for the characters to distract themselves from despair. Fun is the ability to laugh instead of cry when those are the only two options that occur, and optimism is waking up one morning and not wanting to die. Since the cast includes a human brain in a conspicuously mechanical body and a deformed burn victim whose power leaves him incapacitated and deteriorating while the &#8221; negative spirit &#8221; does all the work, I think that simply being able to function is a heroic act for most of them.</p>
<p>Similarly, the death of Nudge wasn&#8217;t meant for angst, it was meant to illustrate how dark the book is that the teen girl could be KIA and the others simply view her death as an occupational hazard. It also offers one bit of connective tissue to the recent past that keeps this Doom Patrol from being yet another complete reboot, but if you don&#8217;t know who Nudge is, she works fine just as cannon fodder.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If DC wants DOOM PATROL to be done right, then all they have to do is assign Morrison and Case to the title.

Good luck to Giffen, tho&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If DC wants DOOM PATROL to be done right, then all they have to do is assign Morrison and Case to the title.</p>
<p>Good luck to Giffen, tho&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cage</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t really care for Nudge either, but I&#039;d have rathered Giffen at least try to do something with the character than just kill her off after having every other character in the book dismiss her as an anciliary non-character. Sure it&#039;s meta-commentary on how a lot of DP fans feel, but if new characters are going to be treated that way, why bother coming up with them in the first place?

Have a good day.
John Cage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t really care for Nudge either, but I&#8217;d have rathered Giffen at least try to do something with the character than just kill her off after having every other character in the book dismiss her as an anciliary non-character. Sure it&#8217;s meta-commentary on how a lot of DP fans feel, but if new characters are going to be treated that way, why bother coming up with them in the first place?</p>
<p>Have a good day.<br />
John Cage</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this Doom Patrol in the same vein as Waid&#039;s take on them in Brave And The Bold?

They weren&#039;t the nicest of chaps, but I&#039;d read more of them - they were downright creepy.

(Although it may be a bit much if not contrasted by Flash and his kids).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Doom Patrol in the same vein as Waid&#8217;s take on them in Brave And The Bold?</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t the nicest of chaps, but I&#8217;d read more of them &#8211; they were downright creepy.</p>
<p>(Although it may be a bit much if not contrasted by Flash and his kids).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.) Yes, the Doom Patrol are mopey, and that is why we love them. However, they were never &lt;i&gt;unlikeable&lt;/i&gt;. They are now. Yes, it&#039;s a first issue, and the characters are bound to progress, but right now, it reads like the Futurama crew, if they were all a bunch of jerks. ...moreso.

2.) Obviously, no one cares. It seems like a meta-commentary. I&#039;d just as soon have them not appear at all, however, then exist just for an excuse for some blood and moping.

3.) If you like the DC house style, go for it. I do not. The art tells the story in a capable manner, however.

I pre-ordered the first three, so it&#039;s not like I&#039;m going to turn my back on the series just yet. The cliffhanger indicates a sentient black hole as a new threat, which is inspired enough lunacy to keep me reading. The classic Doom Patrol books-- let&#039;s face it, the Drake and Morrison stuff, though I also enjoyed Arcudi&#039;s run-- were about inverting stereotypes and being weird and fun, optimistic despite all the freakishness. They have every right to piss and moan, and maybe they do a little, but they also kick ass and save lives. I hope the first arc of this book takes us in that direction.

It&#039;s not that I think all the Doom Patrol comics should read the same way-- I mean, they sure as shoot haven&#039;t-- but there&#039;s a core quality that is still missing from this new series. If the pilot episode is indicative of the series as a whole, I don&#039;t see this one lasting too long. Then again, maybe it will be a crazy hit. I clearly don&#039;t have the taste of the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.) Yes, the Doom Patrol are mopey, and that is why we love them. However, they were never <i>unlikeable</i>. They are now. Yes, it&#8217;s a first issue, and the characters are bound to progress, but right now, it reads like the Futurama crew, if they were all a bunch of jerks. &#8230;moreso.</p>
<p>2.) Obviously, no one cares. It seems like a meta-commentary. I&#8217;d just as soon have them not appear at all, however, then exist just for an excuse for some blood and moping.</p>
<p>3.) If you like the DC house style, go for it. I do not. The art tells the story in a capable manner, however.</p>
<p>I pre-ordered the first three, so it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m going to turn my back on the series just yet. The cliffhanger indicates a sentient black hole as a new threat, which is inspired enough lunacy to keep me reading. The classic Doom Patrol books&#8211; let&#8217;s face it, the Drake and Morrison stuff, though I also enjoyed Arcudi&#8217;s run&#8211; were about inverting stereotypes and being weird and fun, optimistic despite all the freakishness. They have every right to piss and moan, and maybe they do a little, but they also kick ass and save lives. I hope the first arc of this book takes us in that direction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I think all the Doom Patrol comics should read the same way&#8211; I mean, they sure as shoot haven&#8217;t&#8211; but there&#8217;s a core quality that is still missing from this new series. If the pilot episode is indicative of the series as a whole, I don&#8217;t see this one lasting too long. Then again, maybe it will be a crazy hit. I clearly don&#8217;t have the taste of the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitz the Bloody</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/09/07/box-of-comics-august-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-738503</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitz the Bloody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three questions about your Doom Patrol review...

1.) When were the Doom Patrol ever NOT self-pitying? The whole point of the team was that they were the disabled, deformed roughnecks of the DCU. Even in the original Arnold Drake strips, they bickered constantly and bemoaned their outcast status. And Grant Morrison made them even more disgruntled, replacing Rita with a rape survivor that displaced herself into 50 different personalities, making Negative Man into a creature completely detached from humanity ( especially human gender ), and taking the Chief&#039;s manipulative nature to villainous heights. What makes Giffen&#039;s somehow different from any other Doom Patrol?

2.) Why should Giffen be bothered about the death of one of John Byrne&#039;s Doom Patrol creations when nobody besides Byrne himself cared about the character in the first place? 

3.) Is the fact that Clark&#039;s art fits the DC House style an indictment of its lack of quality? Is Clark a poor storyteller because of his scratchy, detailed figures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three questions about your Doom Patrol review&#8230;</p>
<p>1.) When were the Doom Patrol ever NOT self-pitying? The whole point of the team was that they were the disabled, deformed roughnecks of the DCU. Even in the original Arnold Drake strips, they bickered constantly and bemoaned their outcast status. And Grant Morrison made them even more disgruntled, replacing Rita with a rape survivor that displaced herself into 50 different personalities, making Negative Man into a creature completely detached from humanity ( especially human gender ), and taking the Chief&#8217;s manipulative nature to villainous heights. What makes Giffen&#8217;s somehow different from any other Doom Patrol?</p>
<p>2.) Why should Giffen be bothered about the death of one of John Byrne&#8217;s Doom Patrol creations when nobody besides Byrne himself cared about the character in the first place? </p>
<p>3.) Is the fact that Clark&#8217;s art fits the DC House style an indictment of its lack of quality? Is Clark a poor storyteller because of his scratchy, detailed figures?</p>
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		<title>By: secret i.d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>secret i.d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not a work with dynamite plotting&quot; indeed.  I thought Frankenstein&#039;s Womb read like an illustrated wikipedia article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not a work with dynamite plotting&#8221; indeed.  I thought Frankenstein&#8217;s Womb read like an illustrated wikipedia article.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doom Patrol: Yet another book DC is determined to publish, regardless of if they know what to do with it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doom Patrol: Yet another book DC is determined to publish, regardless of if they know what to do with it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Argo Plummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argo Plummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently switched to DCBS for my monthly books as well, so I understand the delay in not only reviewing but reading your books.  I have read roughly 60% of my haul that arrived a week ago.  

From your list, I received Batman and Robin and Frankenstein&#039;s Womb, but haven&#039;t read either yet.  I did read Doom Patrol, but while I share some of your criticisms (I too guessed the priest is Rocky from Challs, but that was never clear) I think I enjoyed it much more than you did.  I&#039;m a sucker for Giffen though, and the Doom Patrol.  Loved the back up feature.  Not classics, but just fun.

Keep up the good reviews and thanks for being one of two sites that turned me on to DCBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently switched to DCBS for my monthly books as well, so I understand the delay in not only reviewing but reading your books.  I have read roughly 60% of my haul that arrived a week ago.  </p>
<p>From your list, I received Batman and Robin and Frankenstein&#8217;s Womb, but haven&#8217;t read either yet.  I did read Doom Patrol, but while I share some of your criticisms (I too guessed the priest is Rocky from Challs, but that was never clear) I think I enjoyed it much more than you did.  I&#8217;m a sucker for Giffen though, and the Doom Patrol.  Loved the back up feature.  Not classics, but just fun.</p>
<p>Keep up the good reviews and thanks for being one of two sites that turned me on to DCBS.</p>
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