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9/10 – If Only…
September 10, 2009 @ 09:28 AM
Other characters were as considerate as imaginary future Batman and Robin…

Other characters were as considerate as imaginary future Batman and Robin…

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39 Comments
T.
September 10, 2009 at 9:54 am
I don’t get it.
Cass
September 10, 2009 at 10:15 am
I think it’s pointing out that the future Batman and Robin are considerate enough to distinguish themselves from their predecessors with the “II” marker, whereas the Marvel guys don’t give a crap, Hobgoblin especially who wears an exact replica of his forebearer’s costume. I think what makes it confusing is that all the DC “II”s are sons of the original, whereas the Marvels are not, even though that has no bearing on the joke (or what I presume to be the joke).
Brian Cronin
September 10, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dick Grayson is Batman II.
Scott MacIver
September 10, 2009 at 10:24 am
Why is Robin II a ginger? Is Ivy is mother?
Thok
September 10, 2009 at 10:27 am
Batman, I don’t think that’s what ironically means, going by either the real definition or the Alanis Morrisette definition.
Chen
September 10, 2009 at 10:28 am
And here I thought it was in reference to B&R II taking the mantles of living predecessors, while Marvel only passes its torches post-mortem… which actually isn’t true for Hobgoblin. And now Hawkeye.
Mordechai Luchins
September 10, 2009 at 10:28 am
Robin II’s mom was Kathy Kane. Which means Robin II’s dad was her secret lover, James Olsen.
Aaron Poehler
September 10, 2009 at 10:42 am
“9/10 if only…” is likely to bring a different image to mind for New Yorkers and many others.
Nik
September 10, 2009 at 10:47 am
Yeah, my mind went to 9/11. I still don’t get it.
Jeff Holland
September 10, 2009 at 10:54 am
In the future, the Alanis Morrisette definition of “irony” is the only definition that survives.
OH, WHAT A BLEAK AND HORRIBLE FUTURE THIS WILL BE!
Matt
September 10, 2009 at 11:00 am
I spent too long trying to figure out how 9/10 was tied into it all. And then the Joker looked like a plane crashing into something. This was a poorly constructed entry, basically.
Anonymous
September 10, 2009 at 11:09 am
It’s just the date that he wrote it on. The real title is If only…. Geez.
And the joke is that Batman and Robin have a number two on their chests. He’s just saying it would be funny if other characters did it.
aboynamedposh
September 10, 2009 at 11:14 am
Well, *I* laughed.
JoeMac
September 10, 2009 at 11:21 am
I get the joke. But before I opened the link, I too was expecting a WTC reference.
JoeMac
September 10, 2009 at 11:23 am
Sorry to double post, but I was just wondering… is this the first story with Dick Grayson growing up to become Batman II? Or was the precedent set even earlier?
Cass
September 10, 2009 at 11:30 am
I of course meant that all the IIs were at one time under the legal guardianship of their originals.
(Will he call me on the Joker, who likely wouldn’t be given legal guardianship of a Furby? Time will tell!!!)
Adam
September 10, 2009 at 11:49 am
I think some people aren’t noticing the “II” on future Batman and Robins’ chests. They’re there, but I don’t think the reader’s eye is drawn to them.
P. Boz
September 10, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Wait…is that a sword for Hawkeye II (didn’t know that was her at first)? Was she the daughter of Hawkeye and the Swordsman? I missed something reading those Essentials…
Wesley Smith
September 10, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I’m with Thok. In what parallel universe is this ironic.
If Joker II was Batman’s son and Robin II was Joker’s son, that’d be ironic.
Don’tcha think?
indy24la
September 10, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I could understand people’s confusion if the actually date was 9/11, but since it’s not…???? So is any date close to 9/11 off the table now? No 9/9, 9/10, 9/12, 9/13?
Matt
September 10, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I simply noticed, in the list of recent entries on the main CBR page, that it was the only entry with a date in front of it, (like so: http://i32.tinypic.com/2yyrtrb.jpg )so I figured it was important in some way.
Wesley Smith
September 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm
@indy24la:
Those dates aren’t off the table, but with an entry labeled “If Only–9/10…” I can see how some people would think that the entry would be about the WTC attack. Like “If Only–we had known one day earlier.” Like that.
Bill Reed
September 10, 2009 at 1:29 pm
You know, nobody bitched about the date on “If Only” from two days ago.
chad
September 10, 2009 at 1:32 pm
the poin tof the piece was suppose to be if only marvel would dare to label their characters who are not the orignal version like hobogoblin though that picture looks kind of lame. and the huntress tt is the current one.
Wesley Smith
September 10, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Bill:
That’s because it was two days ago.
I don’t think anybody is saying that Brian can’t title his posts what he wants, and I don’t think anybody really cares, but I can definitely see why someone would be confused.
It’s like having a title like “It’s beginning to look a lot like– 12/24…” and have the inside continue “… Superman’s got his hands full with Lois this week.
Ian
September 10, 2009 at 1:42 pm
“In the future, the Alanis Morrisette definition of “irony” is the only definition that survives.”
How ironic.
Apodaca
September 10, 2009 at 1:45 pm
“It’s like having a title like “It’s beginning to look a lot like– 12/24…” and have the inside continue “… Superman’s got his hands full with Lois this week.”
So, the term “If only…” is now permanently associated with the WTC attacks?
Brian Cronin
September 10, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Yeah, this may very well be the dumbest complaint I’ve ever heard about a blog entry.
And I see a lot of dumb complaints. Usually, I just ignore the dumb complaints, but wow, this was so bad I had to acknowledge it.
Wesley Smith
September 10, 2009 at 2:08 pm
No, I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that today, the day before the anniversay of the attacks, I can understand how the phrase “If only…” followed by the ellipsis, might be confusing to some. Two days before, or two days after, and nobody notices. Today and tomorrow, I can see how there might be some confusion.
That’s all I’m saying.
Apodaca
September 10, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Well, that’s certainly worth saying.
joshschr
September 10, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Does Joker II have a “II” on his chest? Is that the fashion in this imaginary story? And if Robin II is the son of Batman, who is Batman II?
JackKing
September 10, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Batman II is Dick Grayson, I think.
Not once did I think of 9/11 until you guys started talking about it.
Michael P.
September 10, 2009 at 7:20 pm
“Wait…is that a sword for Hawkeye II (didn’t know that was her at first)? Was she the daughter of Hawkeye and the Swordsman?”
No, she just stole their stuff.
Tuomas
September 11, 2009 at 1:50 am
I thought this entry was a 9/11 reference too based on the title.
Rob Schmidt
September 11, 2009 at 3:38 am
I agree with Wesley, although I wouldn’t have taken the time to mention the problem myself.
TOM
September 11, 2009 at 8:19 am
maybe the fact that so many peoples minds were drawn to 9/11 says more about them that it does about the blog post…
Mordechai Luchins
September 11, 2009 at 8:57 am
Says more than it does about the people than the blog.
Sijo
September 11, 2009 at 9:11 am
“Wait…is that a sword for Hawkeye II (didn’t know that was her at first)? Was she the daughter of Hawkeye and the Swordsman? I missed something reading those Essentials…”
Hawkeye II actually uses weapons from several Avengers. She only got the name because at the time Hawkeye was ‘dead’ so it was up for grabs (and Marvel can’t let a name rest unused for long for fear someone else will trademark it- see: the FOUR Spider-Women) Since it’s a given that Haweye will eventually reclaim his name (“Ronin” sucks) she’ll eventually have to get another name.
"O" the Humanatee!
September 11, 2009 at 9:55 am
Maybe the fact that some people’s mind were not drawn to 9/11 says more about them than it does about the blog post. See, it’s logic!