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Dear Mark Waid RE: Brave, Bold Back Issues

inspired by the other great Mark in comics, I picked up a bunch of your Brave and the Bold run recently. Here are some thoughts.

I read #2 first, because Joe Rice freaked out over all the flirting between Supergirl and Hal Jordan that one time 2 years ago (no links!). That seems pretty dumb in retrospect. I think it’s all really Chris Hanson’s fault. I mean, yes, Hal did lay it on a little thick, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as it could have been or really that bad at all. Although Supergirl’s decoy outfit? That kind of was. Maybe someone should talk to George about that some day. All that said, I find Hal tolerable when you write him, so thanks for that!

The issue where Batman and Jay Garrick fight the Penguin and T.O. Morrow’s Samurai Assassain Bots? That was pretty awesome. How do you plot a story like that? Do you work really hard, or do you just fill in a mad lib and awesome team up stories come out?

Also, why have you not written more Batman? I like your Batman.

Speaking of which, Batman giving that condescending prick Braniac 5 an MMA elbow and stealing his flight ring in issue #5 is one of my biggest “Fuck yeah!” moments in comics in years. I kept thinking “Surely, Batman will give that condescending prick Braniac 5 an MMA elbow for his insolence at some point and steal his flight ring.” And then he did!

On the other hand, did you know there were pages in this comic where Batman was not kicking the crap out of future teens? How did that happen? Did you write those pages with other characters and exposition**, or did someone else insert them later, or what? How did that happen?

I would seriously read an ongoing where Batman beats up random groups of teenagers. You would start with superhero teams (remember when Gen13 was popular? They deserve to be kicked for that still, even though I have affection for them) and then move on to boy bands and end with just random shiftless teens, and then do it all over again. That shit would be on my pull list for life. Just throwing that out there.

I have a bag full of these things more to read, including one where Green Arrow and Deadman have the greatest team up of the ’60s in 2008. I’m looking forward to that more than I should.

*I wonder how Sims felt about that panel, giving his conflicting loves of the Legion, Batman, and face kicks. Somehow, it’s never come up the two times he’s talked to me.

**Now that I’ve finally accepted Tales Designed To Thrizzle in my life, I can not read exposition in superhero comics without remembering that strip with the two superheroes where one goes “tell us some exposition” to the other and she does. That was funny.

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“Also, why have you not written more Batman? I like your Batman. ”

He wrote a Batman one-shot recently that wasn’t very good.

The BARCELONA one? I found it to be an enjoyable done-in-one with Wayne, and the Spanish (I think?) artist was refreshing. Waid didn’t set the world on fire reconciling seven decades of continuity or anything, just did what he does best, tell an entertaining story that both respects and adds to the tradition of what’s come before.

I’d find yours posts a little more informative if there was a little more use of relevant graphics/images as a frame
of reference.
I find it kind of frustrating at times to read posts/articles about a graphics reliant medium that contain
no graphics whatsoever. Not attempting to be rude or snarky, just constructive.

I bought the Green Arrow/ Deadman issue. It didn’t care for it; the story was continued with other characters, I’m sure, but the issue itself felt incomplete.

The first 6 issues were a blast, however.

Trying a bit hard with this style of piece and not really hitting the mark.

Where’s the first footnote in the main text?

“The issue where Batman and Jay Garrick fight the Penguin and T.O. Morrow’s Samurai Assassin Bots? That was pretty awesome.”

It really was. I wasn’t expecting that level of awesomeness, but there it was.

But totally a mad-lib.

(Which is a perfectly acceptable way to write team-up books.)

I dug all the Supergirl-related issues, which is strange ’cause I haven’t really dug much Supergirl stuff published after 1962 or so. (Specifically 1962. I have a long and complicated argument for why this is true.)

I wasn’t as into the Scott Kolins issues as the ones before them. But “The Ghost Killers of Nanda Parbat” should be enshrined in the story-title hall of fame.

Read # 8, Flash and Doom Patrol (And Metamorpho) That was my favorite of the whole run!

What MarkAndrew said about #8 — if THAT rendition of Doom Patrol was the one in the new comic, you sure as hell wouldn’t be dropping the title.

urgh I hated the Batman/legion issue. So Batman can outsmart Brainiac 5, that’s ridiculous. Fanboy-ism gone too far. I don’t care how much of an egotistical ass B5 is, the whole point is that its kind of justified.

On the other hand I loved issue 2. It was fun. I know when I was 17 crushing on older guys was no big deal at all. The outfit in the arena was to make the audience under-estimate her so they would all vote against her. I don’t know where she got it though.

My favourite was Supergirl/Lobo. Hilarious

I wasn’t a huge fan of the Legion issue either. I’m all for Batman punching teenagers all the time – obviously – but the fight scenes felt a little flat. Needed a little more Jim Aparo OOMPH.

Well, what doesn’t need more Jim Aparo, Mark? Huh? Answer that!

it’s a damn shame that Mark isn’t writting for DC at the moment he’s always had a great grasp on most of it’s characters and I really enjoyed the first 6 issues of Brave and the Bold. I wish he would have kept the format instead of changing it up for the next 6 issues, I like the idea of several team-up issues that lead to a big fight at the end where all the heroes team up to take on the bad guy.

The Deadman arc with Nightwing and Green Arrow was awesome.

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