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		<title>By: Hatter Entertainment News &#187; X-BABIES #1 Reviews: &#8220;This is not a serious comic&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hatter Entertainment News &#187; X-BABIES #1 Reviews: &#8220;This is not a serious comic&#8230;&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What I bought &#8211; 7 October 2009 &#124; Nationwide Drug Interventions</title>
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		<dc:creator>What I bought &#8211; 7 October 2009 &#124; Nationwide Drug Interventions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More info&#8230;&#8220;I&#8217;m not a hero! I&#8217;m not a savior! Forget what you know!&#8221; All right, no shenangians this week. You will definitely not feel like the money you spent to read this has been wasted! Batman and Robin #5 (&#8221;Revenge of the Red Hood Part Two: Scarlet&#8221;) by Grant &#8220;What other mild-mannered animal can I turn into a scary character name?&#8221; Morrison (writer), Philip Tan (penciller), Jonathan Glapion (inker), Alex Sinclair (colorist), and Patrick Brosseau (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, DC . [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More info&#8230;&#8220;I&#8217;m not a hero! I&#8217;m not a savior! Forget what you know!&#8221; All right, no shenangians this week. You will definitely not feel like the money you spent to read this has been wasted! Batman and Robin #5 (&#8221;Revenge of the Red Hood Part Two: Scarlet&#8221;) by Grant &#8220;What other mild-mannered animal can I turn into a scary character name?&#8221; Morrison (writer), Philip Tan (penciller), Jonathan Glapion (inker), Alex Sinclair (colorist), and Patrick Brosseau (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, DC . [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-745079</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: No worries, sir.  I kind of hoped you were being tongue in cheek, and I&#039;m glad you were.  That&#039;s always the problem with the Internet - tone.

Good stuff, Ted!  Much better than the sonnet I once wrote about mowing the lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: No worries, sir.  I kind of hoped you were being tongue in cheek, and I&#8217;m glad you were.  That&#8217;s always the problem with the Internet &#8211; tone.</p>
<p>Good stuff, Ted!  Much better than the sonnet I once wrote about mowing the lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-745018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Have you ever tried to write a sonnet? It&#039;s no fun.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What great nonsense spouted by Greg, our friend,
to disparage that most noble of forms,
the sonnet, which I will try to defend,
and then to those poems I hope he warms.

You say they’re no fun, but that is not true.
Why, nothing could be further from the case.
Writing a sonnet is easy to do,
just put every word in the proper place.

Ten syllables a line, fourteen all-up,
it’s just three quatrains and then a couplet.
Some might mention some ‘iambic’ getup,
but prosody is real hard, isn’t it?

Wait, you weren’t talking about good sonnets
we’re you? As they may be past my limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Have you ever tried to write a sonnet? It&#8217;s no fun.</p></blockquote>
<p>What great nonsense spouted by Greg, our friend,<br />
to disparage that most noble of forms,<br />
the sonnet, which I will try to defend,<br />
and then to those poems I hope he warms.</p>
<p>You say they’re no fun, but that is not true.<br />
Why, nothing could be further from the case.<br />
Writing a sonnet is easy to do,<br />
just put every word in the proper place.</p>
<p>Ten syllables a line, fourteen all-up,<br />
it’s just three quatrains and then a couplet.<br />
Some might mention some ‘iambic’ getup,<br />
but prosody is real hard, isn’t it?</p>
<p>Wait, you weren’t talking about good sonnets<br />
we’re you? As they may be past my limits.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-745010</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As problematic as Philip Tan&#039;s art can be, it&#039;s 1000 times better to look at than Kelly Jones&#039; steroid disfigurement Batman. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jones work is highly stylized, so I can see how that might push it beyond some people&#039;s tastes, personally I think it doesn&#039;t work as many times as it does - however, it&#039;s consistent. His Batman may look like he&#039;s had too many steroids and be over sized, but everything in his art is like that, Batman works that way in the world he&#039;s drawn.
Tan&#039;s art work is just poorly laid out, and the line work just isn&#039;t up to scratch to carry it through.
He really does have to be the artist C.B Beluski twittered about having been put on a high level job that far exceeded his talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As problematic as Philip Tan&#8217;s art can be, it&#8217;s 1000 times better to look at than Kelly Jones&#8217; steroid disfigurement Batman. </p></blockquote>
<p>Jones work is highly stylized, so I can see how that might push it beyond some people&#8217;s tastes, personally I think it doesn&#8217;t work as many times as it does &#8211; however, it&#8217;s consistent. His Batman may look like he&#8217;s had too many steroids and be over sized, but everything in his art is like that, Batman works that way in the world he&#8217;s drawn.<br />
Tan&#8217;s art work is just poorly laid out, and the line work just isn&#8217;t up to scratch to carry it through.<br />
He really does have to be the artist C.B Beluski twittered about having been put on a high level job that far exceeded his talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-745009</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonnets are really hard, man. I hate sonnets.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Mayket</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-745002</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mayket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: I was out of town for the weekend so I just read your response... I know you&#039;re being tongue in cheek.  It comes across just fine.  I was also trying to be tongue in cheek with the, &quot;just saying...&quot; and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: I was out of town for the weekend so I just read your response&#8230; I know you&#8217;re being tongue in cheek.  It comes across just fine.  I was also trying to be tongue in cheek with the, &#8220;just saying&#8230;&#8221; and all.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cosh</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744926</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penguin was trying to escape on a helicopter umbrella. Robin broke the shaft with a batarang. I assumed it was only a couple of floors he fell. The main thing I liked about this issue is that Morrison still seems to be finding fresh ways to come at the idea of masks, faces and identity. I&#039;m assuming Flamingo will at least try to cut off Scarlet&#039;s new face next month.

I&#039;m in the same boat with Greek Street. I like Milligan a lot, but it seems too meandering so far. Maybe a reread of the first storyline will sort that out. I recently reread an issue of Shade (#41) in which Shade somehow incarnates the spirit of the original Pandora. What follows is a bawdy and amusing take on the origins of that story, how events get changed in publication and - of particular interest, given the clear intent behind Greek Street - why some stories resonate because of their universal human element. Throw in some nods to ongoing subplots about Shade&#039;s return from the dead, his war against angels and Kathy&#039;s pregnancy (none of which you need to have been following to understand) and you&#039;ve got a whole lot more crammed into one issue than any of his current work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penguin was trying to escape on a helicopter umbrella. Robin broke the shaft with a batarang. I assumed it was only a couple of floors he fell. The main thing I liked about this issue is that Morrison still seems to be finding fresh ways to come at the idea of masks, faces and identity. I&#8217;m assuming Flamingo will at least try to cut off Scarlet&#8217;s new face next month.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the same boat with Greek Street. I like Milligan a lot, but it seems too meandering so far. Maybe a reread of the first storyline will sort that out. I recently reread an issue of Shade (#41) in which Shade somehow incarnates the spirit of the original Pandora. What follows is a bawdy and amusing take on the origins of that story, how events get changed in publication and &#8211; of particular interest, given the clear intent behind Greek Street &#8211; why some stories resonate because of their universal human element. Throw in some nods to ongoing subplots about Shade&#8217;s return from the dead, his war against angels and Kathy&#8217;s pregnancy (none of which you need to have been following to understand) and you&#8217;ve got a whole lot more crammed into one issue than any of his current work.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744849</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, J. K., and for clearing up what was going on with the art.  It&#039;s always interesting to hear what the creators are doing on the books.  And I&#039;m glad this isn&#039;t the end of the story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, J. K., and for clearing up what was going on with the art.  It&#8217;s always interesting to hear what the creators are doing on the books.  And I&#8217;m glad this isn&#8217;t the end of the story!</p>
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		<title>By: JKWoodward</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744827</link>
		<dc:creator>JKWoodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Greg, I&#039;m glad you liked this miniseries. There will be another one coming in about 6 months or so.
I went back and read your review of issue 1 where you noted the difference in the art style but couldn&#039;t quite put your finger on it. Well to answer your question, I simplified. At one point I was going photorealistic with my watercolours and that made action scenes problematic. I decided rto do more simplistic sahding and then even more simplistic cartoon style line work over it. I was inspired to free up the action with a slightly more impressionistic style by people like Tim Sale and Darwin Cooke. Though my work doesn&#039;t really resemble either, I did follow their example.

Again, glad you liked them. Peter and I will soon be working together again so you can look forward to more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg, I&#8217;m glad you liked this miniseries. There will be another one coming in about 6 months or so.<br />
I went back and read your review of issue 1 where you noted the difference in the art style but couldn&#8217;t quite put your finger on it. Well to answer your question, I simplified. At one point I was going photorealistic with my watercolours and that made action scenes problematic. I decided rto do more simplistic sahding and then even more simplistic cartoon style line work over it. I was inspired to free up the action with a slightly more impressionistic style by people like Tim Sale and Darwin Cooke. Though my work doesn&#8217;t really resemble either, I did follow their example.</p>
<p>Again, glad you liked them. Peter and I will soon be working together again so you can look forward to more.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744800</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: Well, I don&#039;t know how obscure the books I read are, and I think I read a pretty good blend of obscure and fairly well-known books.  Plus, I try to be as tongue-in-cheek as I can about being snarky, but maybe the tone doesn&#039;t come across.  Oh well.

Julian: I don&#039;t know about my &quot;insecurities,&quot; but you&#039;re right of course, because we all view things through our own personal prism, and what works for you might not work for me (especially in comedy).  I know that Rugg was playing Brother Voodoo straight, and maybe that was the problem - it was dull.  I like the Tony Millionaire story but was glad it didn&#039;t go any longer, as it&#039;s hard to be that surreal for very long.  Hickman&#039;s stuff was good, too.  I disagree with you about the M.O.D.O.K. story, but that&#039;s cool.  I just thought the first issue had more wildly excellent stories, while in this issue, the good ones weren&#039;t so brilliant that they overshadowed the bad stories.

T.: Oh, you&#039;re so wrong.  So very, very wrong!!!!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: Well, I don&#8217;t know how obscure the books I read are, and I think I read a pretty good blend of obscure and fairly well-known books.  Plus, I try to be as tongue-in-cheek as I can about being snarky, but maybe the tone doesn&#8217;t come across.  Oh well.</p>
<p>Julian: I don&#8217;t know about my &#8220;insecurities,&#8221; but you&#8217;re right of course, because we all view things through our own personal prism, and what works for you might not work for me (especially in comedy).  I know that Rugg was playing Brother Voodoo straight, and maybe that was the problem &#8211; it was dull.  I like the Tony Millionaire story but was glad it didn&#8217;t go any longer, as it&#8217;s hard to be that surreal for very long.  Hickman&#8217;s stuff was good, too.  I disagree with you about the M.O.D.O.K. story, but that&#8217;s cool.  I just thought the first issue had more wildly excellent stories, while in this issue, the good ones weren&#8217;t so brilliant that they overshadowed the bad stories.</p>
<p>T.: Oh, you&#8217;re so wrong.  So very, very wrong!!!!!!  <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Wenger</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744745</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Wenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of disappointments this week honestly.  Doctor Voodoo #1 was probably book of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of disappointments this week honestly.  Doctor Voodoo #1 was probably book of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As problematic as Philip Tan&#039;s art can be, it&#039;s 1000 times better to look at than Kelly Jones&#039; steroid disfigurement Batman.  Batman with Rob Liefeldian muscles, an ultra-elongated ribcage and a 24-pack of abs is just gross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As problematic as Philip Tan&#8217;s art can be, it&#8217;s 1000 times better to look at than Kelly Jones&#8217; steroid disfigurement Batman.  Batman with Rob Liefeldian muscles, an ultra-elongated ribcage and a 24-pack of abs is just gross.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744728</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno Greg, I think your issues towards Strange Tales speak more to your own insecurities with the wackiness than the creators&#039;. I mean Rugg was totally playing Brother Voodoo straight. Tony Millionaire&#039;s story was ridiculous but fun. Vasquez ended on a cheap note, I&#039;ll agree, but I don&#039;t think the message was that a floating head with tiny arms is stupid, more that such a creature must be desperately lonely (Bertozzi definitely did it better and more fucked up). The Herald of Galactus Recruitment advertisement was a really clever jab at our own military ads. The Alicia Master&#039;s story was dissapointing but the gallery scene was hilarious (&quot;Lichtenstein&#039;s dead, honey&quot;). The only one that was straight up terrible was Max Cannon&#039;s story. So that&#039;s about the same ratio as last issue with Crabapple and Kochalka&#039;s terrible entries and the rest being ranging from good to brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno Greg, I think your issues towards Strange Tales speak more to your own insecurities with the wackiness than the creators&#8217;. I mean Rugg was totally playing Brother Voodoo straight. Tony Millionaire&#8217;s story was ridiculous but fun. Vasquez ended on a cheap note, I&#8217;ll agree, but I don&#8217;t think the message was that a floating head with tiny arms is stupid, more that such a creature must be desperately lonely (Bertozzi definitely did it better and more fucked up). The Herald of Galactus Recruitment advertisement was a really clever jab at our own military ads. The Alicia Master&#8217;s story was dissapointing but the gallery scene was hilarious (&#8220;Lichtenstein&#8217;s dead, honey&#8221;). The only one that was straight up terrible was Max Cannon&#8217;s story. So that&#8217;s about the same ratio as last issue with Crabapple and Kochalka&#8217;s terrible entries and the rest being ranging from good to brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mayket</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/09/what-i-bought-7-october-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-744727</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mayket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it slightly funny that your fear with regards to Kill Audio is that it&#039;s going to be about how cool people are who listen to obscure music and how lame people who listen to Celine Dion are when every week you make a point of how lame Geoff John&#039;s comics are and how people should be reading whatever obscure comic your pushing.

I&#039;m just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it slightly funny that your fear with regards to Kill Audio is that it&#8217;s going to be about how cool people are who listen to obscure music and how lame people who listen to Celine Dion are when every week you make a point of how lame Geoff John&#8217;s comics are and how people should be reading whatever obscure comic your pushing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: fit2print</title>
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		<dc:creator>fit2print</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money well spent this week. Top job, Burgas. P.S. Tori Amos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money well spent this week. Top job, Burgas. P.S. Tori Amos</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that they&#039;re being downplayed, exactly, but I do think they have the least interesting roles so far.  Dick and Jason are still getting the lion&#039;s share of the panel time and dialogue, but Damien and Sasha seem to have complementary internal conflicts that Jason, certainly doesn&#039;t.  (He&#039;d need the ability to reflect to have that.)  And Dick&#039;s stuck playing the supremely confident Batman role, so even the hints that he&#039;s playing that role get squeezed to the side as he&#039;s constantly around other characters before whom he needs to keep it up.

I don&#039;t know that I entirely buy into Jason&#039;s motivation being overcompensation here; I think another moment of your analysis, where you emphasize the superficiality of his efforts, is the key.  Morrison&#039;s Batman has been almost entirely about trauma, right down to having a master villain named &quot;Hurt,&quot; and this arc seems to be about the way trauma plays out.  You have Jason&#039;s refracted version of a repetition compulsion -- he wears the mask that once belonged to his killer, he&#039;s doing the exact same things that once got him killed -- and using the superficiality to distance himself from and project onto others the lethal consequences he once suffered.

Dick has lost a fatehr figure and mentor, and is trying to carry on in his way...but it&#039;s a threat to his own identity, still, and he&#039;s deliberately letting the &quot;Batman act&quot; slip wherever and whenever he can.  Sasha&#039;s arguably the most recognizably &quot;human&quot; take on it, despite the outrageous circumstances of her trauma, and seems to be lashing out sincerely (unlike Jason) but blindly (unlike Dick).

Damien, interestingly, is the wild card here.  He seems almost immune to what should be very damaging experiences -- his grandfather trying to kill him, his father dying, his loss of self-image when he repeatedly turns out not to be the supercompetent genius he thinks he is -- but his solution is worryingly like Jason&#039;s, that is, he just keeps trying to realize the image or illusion he wants to inhabit.  Perversely, you get the sense that Sasha might be saved by Dick, and Damien might have preferred to be &quot;Scarlet&quot; if the chance had been there.  

Considering your shadowplay between Dick and Jason, the added inverse shadowing of Damien and Sasha seems to make a kind of Bat-chiasmus out of the narrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that they&#8217;re being downplayed, exactly, but I do think they have the least interesting roles so far.  Dick and Jason are still getting the lion&#8217;s share of the panel time and dialogue, but Damien and Sasha seem to have complementary internal conflicts that Jason, certainly doesn&#8217;t.  (He&#8217;d need the ability to reflect to have that.)  And Dick&#8217;s stuck playing the supremely confident Batman role, so even the hints that he&#8217;s playing that role get squeezed to the side as he&#8217;s constantly around other characters before whom he needs to keep it up.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I entirely buy into Jason&#8217;s motivation being overcompensation here; I think another moment of your analysis, where you emphasize the superficiality of his efforts, is the key.  Morrison&#8217;s Batman has been almost entirely about trauma, right down to having a master villain named &#8220;Hurt,&#8221; and this arc seems to be about the way trauma plays out.  You have Jason&#8217;s refracted version of a repetition compulsion &#8212; he wears the mask that once belonged to his killer, he&#8217;s doing the exact same things that once got him killed &#8212; and using the superficiality to distance himself from and project onto others the lethal consequences he once suffered.</p>
<p>Dick has lost a fatehr figure and mentor, and is trying to carry on in his way&#8230;but it&#8217;s a threat to his own identity, still, and he&#8217;s deliberately letting the &#8220;Batman act&#8221; slip wherever and whenever he can.  Sasha&#8217;s arguably the most recognizably &#8220;human&#8221; take on it, despite the outrageous circumstances of her trauma, and seems to be lashing out sincerely (unlike Jason) but blindly (unlike Dick).</p>
<p>Damien, interestingly, is the wild card here.  He seems almost immune to what should be very damaging experiences &#8212; his grandfather trying to kill him, his father dying, his loss of self-image when he repeatedly turns out not to be the supercompetent genius he thinks he is &#8212; but his solution is worryingly like Jason&#8217;s, that is, he just keeps trying to realize the image or illusion he wants to inhabit.  Perversely, you get the sense that Sasha might be saved by Dick, and Damien might have preferred to be &#8220;Scarlet&#8221; if the chance had been there.  </p>
<p>Considering your shadowplay between Dick and Jason, the added inverse shadowing of Damien and Sasha seems to make a kind of Bat-chiasmus out of the narrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Wraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Quite so; that&#039;s really the kicker: the historic legacy. I ask hypothetically &quot;was there a reason to wait for Cassaday,&quot; but I realize that even if the only reason is consistency, and even if that&#039;s considered a minor reason, in the long run the delay is nothing. Planetary, as a work, should last and last. Ten years from now, what&#039;s a three year delay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Quite so; that&#8217;s really the kicker: the historic legacy. I ask hypothetically &#8220;was there a reason to wait for Cassaday,&#8221; but I realize that even if the only reason is consistency, and even if that&#8217;s considered a minor reason, in the long run the delay is nothing. Planetary, as a work, should last and last. Ten years from now, what&#8217;s a three year delay?</p>
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		<title>By: Nitz the Bloody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitz the Bloody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Nitz: That&#039;s probably the only thing that redeems this plot, in that Jason is being so self-conscious about it. As usual, writers walk a fine line when they themselves point out how silly their characters are being. They&#039;re still being silly, after all. &quot;

It should also be noted in the favor of the book that Jason is an excellent conceptual foil for Dick; both are former Robins obsessed with getting out the Shadow of the Bat, and both are trying to fill the void their fallen mentor left in Gotham. Jason&#039;s life turned out much worse than Dick&#039;s, leaving him the psychopathic vigilante while Dick is the respected heir to the cowl, but they&#039;re dealing with many of the same issues; Dick is just as self-conscious as the new Batman as Jason is as the replacement Bat ( as opposed to his earlier Red Hood costume, which was just him putting on a mask in addition to his biker gear ), and as Omar noted, both characters are less effective than their junior partners.

Still, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a matter of Dick and Jason being downplayed in favor of Morrison&#039;s creations, so much as the fact that both young men are in positions far out of their normal league. And Jason is Dick&#039;s shadow self, whose over-compensation for perceived inadequacy is acted out with a killing spree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Nitz: That&#8217;s probably the only thing that redeems this plot, in that Jason is being so self-conscious about it. As usual, writers walk a fine line when they themselves point out how silly their characters are being. They&#8217;re still being silly, after all. &#8221;</p>
<p>It should also be noted in the favor of the book that Jason is an excellent conceptual foil for Dick; both are former Robins obsessed with getting out the Shadow of the Bat, and both are trying to fill the void their fallen mentor left in Gotham. Jason&#8217;s life turned out much worse than Dick&#8217;s, leaving him the psychopathic vigilante while Dick is the respected heir to the cowl, but they&#8217;re dealing with many of the same issues; Dick is just as self-conscious as the new Batman as Jason is as the replacement Bat ( as opposed to his earlier Red Hood costume, which was just him putting on a mask in addition to his biker gear ), and as Omar noted, both characters are less effective than their junior partners.</p>
<p>Still, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of Dick and Jason being downplayed in favor of Morrison&#8217;s creations, so much as the fact that both young men are in positions far out of their normal league. And Jason is Dick&#8217;s shadow self, whose over-compensation for perceived inadequacy is acted out with a killing spree.</p>
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		<title>By: s1rude</title>
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		<dc:creator>s1rude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had missed that &quot;that Brian vs. Greg comments thread&quot;, so I didn&#039;t see Dread Lord&#039;s explanation of Jason&#039;s violence on Damien.  I would like to echo the sentiment in those comments that they were a good example of why I have liked this blog in its pre-CBR and Eisner award winning forms...&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;MF&#039;N CIVILITY!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had missed that &#8220;that Brian vs. Greg comments thread&#8221;, so I didn&#8217;t see Dread Lord&#8217;s explanation of Jason&#8217;s violence on Damien.  I would like to echo the sentiment in those comments that they were a good example of why I have liked this blog in its pre-CBR and Eisner award winning forms&#8230;<b><i>MF&#8217;N CIVILITY!</i></b></p>
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