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You Decide ’09 – Which Black Lantern Do You Want Back Alive the Most?

You know the bit – each day in October I’ll give you folks a poll question. Each poll will last four days. The results will be posted every Tuesday leading up to (and ending with) Election Day on the first Tuesday in November. Here is the master list of all questions asked so far!

Enjoy!


Thanks to Sean Whitmore for the poll suggestion!

73 Comments

I only went for Aquaman ‘cos Ralph & Sue were’nt one vote : (

Thank you for including Sue Dibney despite Sean Whitmore’s blatant neglect. <3

After the horrible treatment she received (and how sad it made the mini with her in it that followed), Sue deserves something good. I agree with Snapper that it would have been better if she'd been one vote with Ralph though… Having one and not the other is just sadface material.

I dunno how I keep them as one and split Hawkman and Hawkgirl?

But eh, fair enough, I’ll combine ‘em!

The two folks who voted for Sue, feel free to re-vote!

Aquaman. Get Geoff Johns on this…..stat!

Elongated Man and Sue!

While most (okay, Aquaman and the Hawks) characters listed here are bound to return soon enough, J’onn’s chances might not be as favorable so the Martian Manhunter gets my vote.

Ronnie Raymond. Besides being a personal favorite, his initial death seemed the most pointless and editorially driven. I hate to say it, but I felt like he was killed for the express purpose of introducing a minority character in his role. I’m fine with that when the change feels naturally made (the newest Mr. Terrific, Jakeem Thunder, the new Question) but Jason feels like a thrust-upon-us character and I’ve never really liked him because of that. I also hated the way Ronnie was so ingloriously killed in a two-panel sequence in the middle of Identity Crisis. At least Ted Kord’s death felt thought out and meaningful…

Martian Manhunter’s a close second in the regard of being an editorial mandate, but I’ve never really been able to take to him as a character, not even when Ostrander and Mandrake were doing his stories, which is a shame really…

Hawkman and Hawkgirl can just be reincarnated by a later writer, and I actually LIKE the idea of Ralph and Sue as the Ghost Detectives, which would be cooler if DC actually DID anything with the concept…

Aquaman, I’m sad to say, I could take or leave, though it doesn’t feel like the DCU without him swimming around in it somewhere…

Wow–I honestly didn’t know that Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, or Ronnie Raymond were dead. I guess Ralph and Sue, then!

voted for martian manhunter, for no profound reason beyond that i always dug him in the JLA.

I think this may be the first poll I skip. Not to be snarky (although I am fighting the flu, so I acknowledge that there is some element of snark for snark’s sake in my worldview today), but they’ll all be back at some point. And it’s all so deadly dull. Bring on the new!

Martian Manhunter, no question.

J’onn. I would have said Ralph and Sue, but I really like the idea of them being ghost detectives so much better than being alive again.

No offense, but as s1rude said, they are all definitely coming back sooner or later so a better question woulda been which character do you NOT want to come back?

as much as i would love to see everyone on the list return to the living had to go with Martian Man hunter for just like Sue he had the most stupidest death ever. and deserves a redo. even though there has been no hints that any of the black laterns will wind up returning to life.

A vote for J’onn. I’ve always loved the character but always thought that to few writers knew what to do with him.

I’d bring back Ralph and Sue, because most of the others seemed to be killed off with the thought of their inevitible resurrection in mind.

Martian Manhunter is the only character that there isn’t a hack around to do stuff with. The Hawks have the resurrection schtick, Ralph and Sue can do the ghost detective thing, and Mera can take over her husbands place. None of those are perfect, but all of them could be implemented if need be.

If you want MM back, you actually have to resurrect him.

Tom Fitzpatrick

October 22, 2009 at 7:17 am

How about (g) None of the above ?

I’ve not read any of the Blackest Night series, so I abstain from voting.

Splint Chesthair

October 22, 2009 at 7:19 am

Ralph and Sue, because they got the rawest deal of any of those characters. Sue was murdered by a dumb plot twist, Ralph killed himself, they got a sort-of happy ending that was never followed up on and then came back as drooling zombies who make tasteless jokes about their own deaths. Two of the only well-adjusted characters left in the modern DCU and they got put through the wringer.

J’onn is supposed to be still alive in the 853rd century, so we know he’ll be brought back one way or another. Hawkman and Hawkgirl’s whole schtick is reincarnation now, I think most people didn’t even know Aquaman was dead in the first place, and Jason Rusch is a more interesting Firestorm.

BLUE BEETLE TED KORD! I’m yelling!!!!

Ralph and Sue because once they come back, there is vengeance to be had.

Man, it’s like Bizarro Sophie’s Choice. Which one of my favorite babies do I pick to resurrect? Aquaman, J’onn, and Ralph are three of my very favorites.

I went with Aquaman, but it was pretty much an eeny, meeny, miney, moe thing.

Ch’p! Or maybe the Flying Graysons.

Ever since it was brought up, I want a Black Lantern Adam Grant.

That’s Cat Grant’s son who was murdered by The Toyman (or ret-conned to have been murdered by a robot Winslow Schott gone a-muck, but still dead none-the-less).

Aquaman… but not with Johns writing it. would Arvid Nelson have any interest in writing Orin? i think that could be pretty sweet.

I`d go with J`onn and Aquaman cause I want the League to go back to the big 7 now that Hal and Barry are back.

None of the above not an option?

As for who people wouldn’t want to see back, there is no need for a vote on that. Terry Long is the obvious winner!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

No brainer. Martian Manhunter, if I had to pick one. Ralph and Sue work fine as Ghost Detectives. It’s in Hawkman and Hawkwoman/girl/whatever’s characters to come back eventually. Mera’s already been shown to be superior to Aquaman in the book. Ronnie’s a tool.

When the hell did Aquaman die? Hawkman, Hawkgirl and Martian Manhunter were all Final Crisis, I think. Sue = Identity Crisis and Ralph = 52. And I’m not even sure who Ronnie Raymond is (Firestorm?).

I’m with Dan above (and maybe more people, I didn’t read them all) and voted for J’onn, but that I also like Ralph and Sue but the ghost detectives thing is a great schtick.

Tom from West Chester

October 22, 2009 at 9:24 am

I also have no idea when Auquaman died. Last I remember he was in and issue of JLA where he was with J’onn monitoring the team and he was in Sword of Atlantis as essentially Davy Jones from pirates of the Carribean, so I’m not sure what;s going on with that character.

In any event I voted for Martian Manhunter. I would love a Morrison solo book starring J’onn.

Nearly everybody in the list will return someday- that’s just how superhero comics work and all the Blackest Night snark about death won’t change it. That said, I voted for Ralph and Sue because they were screwed simply because the “New DC” didn’t like characters like them or Blue Beetle. Heaven forbid comic book could be *fun!*

Martian Manhunter is, to my mind, easily the character with the most (typically unrealized) potential. All those possible secret identities, all over the world, as he spends time in different countries! Seems like so many people online have been calling for months now for “Aquaman: Rebirth,” which makes me all “meh.” I’d most like to read “Martian Manhunter: Rebirth.” And I don’t care if Geoff Johns writes it, though that’d be fine with me. How about Morrison or DeMatteis on it? Or Ostrander! With (OK, total fantasy-land time now) JH Williams or Frazer Irving on art.

J’onn all the way – possibly my favourite DC character, and I really don’t even know why.

Ronnie Raymond because if Geoff Johns and Dan DiDio can come up with a convoluted way to bring their boyhood favorite – Barry Allen – back to life, they should do the same for me and the character that got me collecting DC comics in the first place!

Yeah, I’m selfish.

…also agree with Andrew Collins!

When the hell did Aquaman die?

He got turn into a sea monster (the Dweller of the Deep) and then sacrificed himself to help Sub Diego. The actual death takes place in his replacements series. Sadly, nobody really cares that much about his replacement.

I’d most like to read “Martian Manhunter: Rebirth.” And I don’t care if Geoff Johns writes it, though that’d be fine with me. How about Morrison or DeMatteis on it? Or Ostrander! With (OK, total fantasy-land time now) JH Williams or Frazer Irving on art.

If not Ostrander, Tomasi would seem to be a good guy for this, as he wrote FC: Requiem and edited much of Ostranders MM series.

Aquaman is definitely my favorite character out of this group, but I feel there is a ton of potential for Mera to carve a niche in the DCU, free of the Superfriends reputation that has stuck to Aquaman. Mera, I think, could be the breakout character in Blackest Night (if it’s not Barry Allen).

Martian Manhunter is probably the best out of the remaining characters, though the only time I’ve really liked him is in New Frontier. Like others have mentioned, the other characters have some easy outs for resurrections, so MM is probably the most pragmatic choice.

Sue, if only so she can kill Black Lantern Dr. Light with fire, and make him stay dead.

Hawkman should never have died or Hawkgirl – but i have to go for Ronnie as he startedin comics the same time as me!

Aquaman was killed, if I remember correctly, by Evil Koryak in Aquaman #50, the first issue of Tad Williams’ short, sweet, and overlooked run on the book that only me and six other guys read. There were blatantly plans to bring him back but the book got axed before that happened.

I’m sure Johns will restore Aquaman to the orange shirt, even though I have negative interest in Geoff Johns comics.

Daniel O' Dreams

October 22, 2009 at 11:35 am

J’onn ridiculously overpowered as he was, he was still the greatest outsider point of view character DC had. I miss him.

I haven’t read DC since the early ’80s, with the exception of a few issues here and there, and I still don’t know what the modern versions of most characters are like, but I voted for Ralph and Sue, because I really liked them in the ’70s. The first superhero comic book I ever read was a Detective Comics with an Elongated Man back-up. He was only the fourth super-hero I knew about, after Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man.

It’s inevitable that Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl will come back anyway. I just miss Blue Beetle.

Even though he’s only been dead for about a year, gotta go with Martian Manhunter.

Martian Manhunter.

And Aquaman.

I’d like to see at least one decent story done with Ralph and Sue as ghost detectives before they’re brought back to life rather than the whole “here’s a cute idea – here it still is, unused – well, whatever, here they are back to normal again, oh well” situation that bringing them back via Blackest Night would be.

Barrring “None of the Above” I went with Martian Manhunter.

Hawkgirl – she was one of my favourite characters from the Justice League Animated series.

I don’t like the ressurection trick with Hawkman, because:

1. It’s too easy
2. I think Hawkgirl is better on her own than tied to Hawkman
3 .Strictly speaking, even if the hawks were ressurected, they would be babies and not fit for action for at least 20 years, making Superman, WW, Batman and co decidely more senior.

I forgot to add how uncanny Blackest Night feels like DC’s version of Marvel Zombies without the extreme gore

TERRY LONG!

Seriously, though, I meant to vote for Hawkgirl, but clicked on the Dibnys by mistake. :( I would totally buy a serioes about Ralph and Sue, Ghost Detectives.

Vincent Paul Bartilucci

October 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm

Aquaman.

Orange shirt-wearing, two hands-having, sea creature-controlling, son of lighthouse keeper Tom Curry … um …-being, Aquaman. Arthur Curry, swift and powerful monarch of the ocean.

If, however, the plan is to bring back Orin – let him stay dead.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

October 22, 2009 at 5:06 pm

I want Ralph And Sue back!

I could deal with their deaths when Waid was going to be writing the Ghost Detectives series, but now that DC doesn’t like him, and no one’s giving them even a back up as ghosts, BRING THEM BACK!

And… Hawkgirl is a black lantern?
I didn’t even know she was dead.

Another for Ralph and Sue, because DC ruined them and just maybe they’d do better a another time a round.

I’m all Black Lanterned out. Who’s dead, who’s back, who’s on first, what’s on second… I don’t care. Leave me out of it.

I do think that the people who think a blanket resurrection of all Black Lanterns is in the offing are kidding themselves, though.

“I do think that the people who think a blanket resurrection of all Black Lanterns is in the offing are kidding themselves, though.”

In the old days, when superhero comics were about HEROISM and not about people dying gruesomely, they would be right. In today’s DC comics? Doubtful, except maybe those Johns has a personal liking to.

Aquaman. It has been a long time since we have seen the original recipe Aquaman.

I voted for Hawkgirl. Kendra Saunders is the most underrated character at DC — bad enough they tried to bump her off during the Final Crisis, but her death made Blackest Night even more depressing than it already is.

Have a good day.
John Cage

FunkyGreenJerusalem

October 22, 2009 at 8:48 pm

Aquaman. It has been a long time since we have seen the original recipe Aquaman.

He was brought back in Final Crisis.

Kendra Saunders is the most underrated character at DC — bad enough they tried to bump her off during the Final Crisis, but her death made Blackest Night even more depressing than it already is.

Really?
I think she’s over-exposed.
She was in JSA, then took over Hawkman’s book – which failed – and the put into the JLA.
They keep putting her at the center f things, but it never seems to take off.

Martian Manhunter.
Come on, folks..here’s a guy that’s a mainstay in all incarnations of the Justice League, prior to the latest one, if i’m not mistaken.
He’s one of the most trusted characters in the DCU (hell, even Batman trusts him..Okay, so Bruce has a plan to burn him should J’onn become rogue which was then used by R’a Al Ghul to burn him but still..).
He’s also one of the most powerful heroes in the DCU.
His tactical skill and knowledge alone makes him invaluable to any team.
I don’t read much of DC, but i’ve read enough of Morrison’s and Waid’s JLA to like him enough.

“Ronnie Raymond. Besides being a personal favorite, his initial death seemed the most pointless and editorially driven. I hate to say it, but I felt like he was killed for the express purpose of introducing a minority character in his role. I’m fine with that when the change feels naturally made (the newest Mr. Terrific, Jakeem Thunder, the new Question) but Jason feels like a thrust-upon-us character and I’ve never really liked him because of that. I also hated the way Ronnie was so ingloriously killed in a two-panel sequence in the middle of Identity Crisis”.
So you liked what Ronnie did to Jason’s girlfriend in BN 3?

It would have been really cool if Aquaman’s “death” was the one in the JLA: Our Worlds At War Annual.
Now THAT was a death worthy of remembrance!!

I was torn between J’onn and Athur (and a little bit of Ronnie Raymond) but ultimately J’onn gets my vote.

But hopefully it won’t be the skrull version when they do bring him back. Get Michael Netzer to do it! :)

Why don’t we write all the post-JLI Justice League writers (especially the evil MAxwell Lord bunch) into the comic, give them the lighning rod electrocution/resurrect someone else rods from LSH (most recently seen in Legion of 3 Worlds) and sacrifice them ALL (and their RL careers) to resurrect the whole lot (and Ted Kord, too).

frankly, a lot of my enjoyment of comics left with the JL reboot.

Eric L. Sofer, the Silver Age Fogey

October 23, 2009 at 4:45 am

I must be getting too old. You wrote “Black Lantern” and the ONLY character I thought of was John Stewart… sigh.

I remain,
Sincerely,
Eric L. Sofer
The Silver Age Fogey
x<]:o){

I agree with Andrew C. and John K.- Ron got boned up the ass without lube. He got killed off in a way that seemed like a rush to make room for the new guy. Unlike Ted Kord’s death, Ron’s demise didn’t add to a story or carry any emotional weight.

I’m hoping Ron gets a second chance. I’m also hoping Geoff Johns gets to write a new Firestorm series (like he wanted to do a few years ago, but the dumbasses at DC said no). If they throw in George Perez as artist, I will cream my jeans!

J’Onn, but not the godawful Lieberman Skrull version.

I want Ghost Detectives!

Ralph and Sue, because Identity Crisis is the wrong that DC needs to set right.

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