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		<title>By: Generic Lad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Generic Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; And I&#039;m sure some editor also nixed Mark Millar&#039;s idea to end Civil War with a bunch of Hulk babies invading the Earth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Damn, that would have been better than the endings to both Civil War AND World War Hulk!

:-)</description>
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<p>Damn, that would have been better than the endings to both Civil War AND World War Hulk!</p>
<p> <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
FunkyGreen Jerusalem -- Robinson is a Hollywood screenwriter who wrote the screenplay for a famous (infamous?) movie.
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So?

That doesn&#039;t make on a celebrity - outside of making of doco&#039;s, I&#039;d be surprised by pretty much anyone not really into film knowing who wrote what movie.
Even more so when that film was a monumental flop like LXG was.</description>
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FunkyGreen Jerusalem &#8212; Robinson is a Hollywood screenwriter who wrote the screenplay for a famous (infamous?) movie.
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<p>So?</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t make on a celebrity &#8211; outside of making of doco&#8217;s, I&#8217;d be surprised by pretty much anyone not really into film knowing who wrote what movie.<br />
Even more so when that film was a monumental flop like LXG was.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Stansfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Stansfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sort of getting mixed messages, here. On the one hand, the continued mediocrity under Robinson is being blamed on &quot;editorial interference,&quot; but on the other hand, the point is directly made that Robinson &#039;didn&#039;t want to &quot;use the characters McDuffie left him with wit a good in-story reason.&quot; So it seems to me that at least part of the issue is yet another writer of yet another book who is under the delusion that he is writing issue #1 of a series that has been around for years.

By the way, I am COMPLETELY in disagreement that &quot;the thing this book needs is to get back to A-list characters/&quot; I&#039;m not saying that CAN&#039;T work- it obviously has in the past under Morrison (I wasn&#039;t especially impressed with his work, but I&#039;m clearly in the minority, so I&#039;ll concede)- I just don&#039;t think it has a thing to do with whether the book is good or not. As I recall, there were several years worth of &quot;JLA&quot; post-Morrison that used the same &quot;A-listers,&quot; and nobody is reminiscing fondly over them. MEanwhile, people still love the Gidden/DeMatteis run. What the book NEEDS is for an editorial/writer/artist team to stay on for a solid run, and for them to have a vision for the book beyond &quot;I like these characters, let&#039;s put them together.&quot; People forget that Giffen and DeMatteis didn&#039;t get to choose THEIR lineup, either- but they had a solid concept for their book and made it a huge success. That kind of thinking is needed now. (It&#039;s also interesting to note that some of the people who praise what Bendis has done with the Avengers are still insistent that the JLA be about the &quot;big guns,&quot; when the Avengers has almost NEVER been about &quot;big guns&quot; and still isn&#039;t.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of getting mixed messages, here. On the one hand, the continued mediocrity under Robinson is being blamed on &#8220;editorial interference,&#8221; but on the other hand, the point is directly made that Robinson &#8216;didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;use the characters McDuffie left him with wit a good in-story reason.&#8221; So it seems to me that at least part of the issue is yet another writer of yet another book who is under the delusion that he is writing issue #1 of a series that has been around for years.</p>
<p>By the way, I am COMPLETELY in disagreement that &#8220;the thing this book needs is to get back to A-list characters/&#8221; I&#8217;m not saying that CAN&#8217;T work- it obviously has in the past under Morrison (I wasn&#8217;t especially impressed with his work, but I&#8217;m clearly in the minority, so I&#8217;ll concede)- I just don&#8217;t think it has a thing to do with whether the book is good or not. As I recall, there were several years worth of &#8220;JLA&#8221; post-Morrison that used the same &#8220;A-listers,&#8221; and nobody is reminiscing fondly over them. MEanwhile, people still love the Gidden/DeMatteis run. What the book NEEDS is for an editorial/writer/artist team to stay on for a solid run, and for them to have a vision for the book beyond &#8220;I like these characters, let&#8217;s put them together.&#8221; People forget that Giffen and DeMatteis didn&#8217;t get to choose THEIR lineup, either- but they had a solid concept for their book and made it a huge success. That kind of thinking is needed now. (It&#8217;s also interesting to note that some of the people who praise what Bendis has done with the Avengers are still insistent that the JLA be about the &#8220;big guns,&#8221; when the Avengers has almost NEVER been about &#8220;big guns&#8221; and still isn&#8217;t.)</p>
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		<title>By: Game tape EXTRA! &#171; Legend of the Exciting, Mighty Uncanny, Raging Comics Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game tape EXTRA! &#171; Legend of the Exciting, Mighty Uncanny, Raging Comics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As much as I&#8217;d like to believe this volume is cursed by a stench left by Meltzer, it boils down to bad editorial. James Robinson has a long row to hoe if he&#8217;s going to make this title work again. I could go on, but Brian Cronin over at CBR states it all more concisely.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As much as I&#8217;d like to believe this volume is cursed by a stench left by Meltzer, it boils down to bad editorial. James Robinson has a long row to hoe if he&#8217;s going to make this title work again. I could go on, but Brian Cronin over at CBR states it all more concisely.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justice League of America #38 &#124; the Captain's JLA blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice League of America #38 &#124; the Captain's JLA blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brian Cronin @ Comics Should Be Good numerates the editorial challenges facing this issue and then concludes: Luckily, Robinson acquits himself pretty well &#8211; he tells an engaging story with a lot of strong action (Mark Bagley is particularly good on the art for the book). If it weren&#8217;t for those obstacles which are mostly outside of his control, I think this would be a comic I might even recommend, which is a big improvement over Justice League: Cry For Justice. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brian Cronin @ Comics Should Be Good numerates the editorial challenges facing this issue and then concludes: Luckily, Robinson acquits himself pretty well &#8211; he tells an engaging story with a lot of strong action (Mark Bagley is particularly good on the art for the book). If it weren&#8217;t for those obstacles which are mostly outside of his control, I think this would be a comic I might even recommend, which is a big improvement over Justice League: Cry For Justice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beating a dead horse here, but again I&#039;m going to argue that Morrison&#039;s tenure on the JLA (and to a lesser extent Waid&#039;s and Kelly&#039;s) PROVES that giving a good writer free reign on the title equals a hit.
So I continue to struggle with why folks at DC every few years decide to mess with it.
I don&#039;t care if some readers want every little thing going on in other titles/in the DCU mirroried in JLA. That didn&#039;t happen under Morrison and the freakin&#039; book sold like gangbusters and returned the company&#039;s flagship title to its glory.
James Robinson wrote freakin&#039; Starman. STARMAN! All the carping about his other work or the current Cry for Justice mini aside, that is a pretty good draw: &quot;Join the man who brought you Starman and see what he does with the Worlds Greatest Heroes&quot; or whatever.
Dan Didio: Just ... leave .... James Robinson ... alone ... to ... write ... the Justice League of America!

On a sidenote, this is my latest fear:
For a few months now there have been these rumours that Justice League might be broken into two books. I think this got started when one of hte on-line gossip columns suggested Morrison might be returning to the title with Jim Lee as artist, and then that morphed into Geoff Johns and Lee.
Now, here&#039;s where I get a bit concerned. 
From the standpoint that Marvel has turned The Avengers into this big franchise (which, as a long time Avengers fan, I don&#039;t care for, but that&#039;s another issue) it would not be a completely bizarre move for the higher-ups at DC to say &quot;Yes, let&#039;s have TWO Justice Leagues.&quot;
The other thing that gives me pause is that this is exactly what DC has decided to do with the Justice Society.
Is the two-book JSA model a try-out for a JLA franchise?
As much as I love the first year or so of the 1990s Giffen/DeMatties/McGuire Justice League, the popularity of the book lead to the horrible late-1990s Justice League era filled with all sorts of spin-off titles of average to poor quality.
So DC REALLY needs to just get the current JLA right. But again, I have this little fear in the back of my mind that the wheels are already in motion to create yet another &quot;franchise&quot;...
I really wish one of the news sites would ask Didio to talk about this during an interview. Try and pin the guy down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beating a dead horse here, but again I&#8217;m going to argue that Morrison&#8217;s tenure on the JLA (and to a lesser extent Waid&#8217;s and Kelly&#8217;s) PROVES that giving a good writer free reign on the title equals a hit.<br />
So I continue to struggle with why folks at DC every few years decide to mess with it.<br />
I don&#8217;t care if some readers want every little thing going on in other titles/in the DCU mirroried in JLA. That didn&#8217;t happen under Morrison and the freakin&#8217; book sold like gangbusters and returned the company&#8217;s flagship title to its glory.<br />
James Robinson wrote freakin&#8217; Starman. STARMAN! All the carping about his other work or the current Cry for Justice mini aside, that is a pretty good draw: &#8220;Join the man who brought you Starman and see what he does with the Worlds Greatest Heroes&#8221; or whatever.<br />
Dan Didio: Just &#8230; leave &#8230;. James Robinson &#8230; alone &#8230; to &#8230; write &#8230; the Justice League of America!</p>
<p>On a sidenote, this is my latest fear:<br />
For a few months now there have been these rumours that Justice League might be broken into two books. I think this got started when one of hte on-line gossip columns suggested Morrison might be returning to the title with Jim Lee as artist, and then that morphed into Geoff Johns and Lee.<br />
Now, here&#8217;s where I get a bit concerned.<br />
From the standpoint that Marvel has turned The Avengers into this big franchise (which, as a long time Avengers fan, I don&#8217;t care for, but that&#8217;s another issue) it would not be a completely bizarre move for the higher-ups at DC to say &#8220;Yes, let&#8217;s have TWO Justice Leagues.&#8221;<br />
The other thing that gives me pause is that this is exactly what DC has decided to do with the Justice Society.<br />
Is the two-book JSA model a try-out for a JLA franchise?<br />
As much as I love the first year or so of the 1990s Giffen/DeMatties/McGuire Justice League, the popularity of the book lead to the horrible late-1990s Justice League era filled with all sorts of spin-off titles of average to poor quality.<br />
So DC REALLY needs to just get the current JLA right. But again, I have this little fear in the back of my mind that the wheels are already in motion to create yet another &#8220;franchise&#8221;&#8230;<br />
I really wish one of the news sites would ask Didio to talk about this during an interview. Try and pin the guy down.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FunkyGreen Jerusalem -- Robinson is a Hollywood screenwriter who wrote the screenplay for a famous (infamous?) movie.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. -- Re: celebrity writer = Meltzer -- Right you are. I missed that.</description>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This was because Morrison, as was originally pointed out by a commenter above, didn&#039;t write the cvrossover issues. Those were made fill-ins, with Day of Judgement being by J.M DeMatteis (#35), the No Man&#039;s Land stuff being written by Waid (in issues #32-33), and Genesis being relegated to a last-page teaser in JLA #10 with JLA #11 picking up after the whole crossover had ended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, that explains it.  I didn&#039;t really read the fill-ins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This was because Morrison, as was originally pointed out by a commenter above, didn&#8217;t write the cvrossover issues. Those were made fill-ins, with Day of Judgement being by J.M DeMatteis (#35), the No Man&#8217;s Land stuff being written by Waid (in issues #32-33), and Genesis being relegated to a last-page teaser in JLA #10 with JLA #11 picking up after the whole crossover had ended.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, that explains it.  I didn&#8217;t really read the fill-ins.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was because Morrison, as was originally pointed out by a commenter above, didn&#039;t write the cvrossover issues.  Those were made fill-ins, with Day of Judgement being by J.M DeMatteis (#35), the No Man&#039;s Land stuff being written by Waid (in issues #32-33), and Genesis being relegated to a last-page teaser in JLA #10 with JLA #11 picking up after the whole crossover had ended.

The whole reason the issue came up is that McDuffie was made to build his arcs around crossovers where Morrison was allowed to ignore them entirely.  Jeff argued that Morrison was writing in a less crossover-heavy period, but the evidence shows plenty of crossovers and even some tie-in issues during Morrison&#039;s tenure as &quot;main&quot; writer on JLA.

Where Morrison might have been allowed to just ignore Salvation Run, the aborted Tangent revival, Countdown to FC, and so forth, MacDuffie seems to have been asked to write multi-issue arcs just to set up or tie into those same miniseries &quot;events&quot; and crossovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was because Morrison, as was originally pointed out by a commenter above, didn&#8217;t write the cvrossover issues.  Those were made fill-ins, with Day of Judgement being by J.M DeMatteis (#35), the No Man&#8217;s Land stuff being written by Waid (in issues #32-33), and Genesis being relegated to a last-page teaser in JLA #10 with JLA #11 picking up after the whole crossover had ended.</p>
<p>The whole reason the issue came up is that McDuffie was made to build his arcs around crossovers where Morrison was allowed to ignore them entirely.  Jeff argued that Morrison was writing in a less crossover-heavy period, but the evidence shows plenty of crossovers and even some tie-in issues during Morrison&#8217;s tenure as &#8220;main&#8221; writer on JLA.</p>
<p>Where Morrison might have been allowed to just ignore Salvation Run, the aborted Tangent revival, Countdown to FC, and so forth, MacDuffie seems to have been asked to write multi-issue arcs just to set up or tie into those same miniseries &#8220;events&#8221; and crossovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flash replacement was a strictly Flash-titles-generated event, so that goes into the same bucket as NML and Electric Blue.  I don&#039;t remember what was going on with Wonder Woman, but I suspect it came out of the WW titles or at least their writer (if it was in Genesis, that was Byrne and so was WW at the time, right?).

Keeping time with what&#039;s going on in their solo books is the price for using the Big 7 JLA.  I&#039;m talking about losing access to characters that ought to &#039;belong&#039; to the JLA, having no permanent home due to a line-wide crossover event.  And line-wide crossover events were in decline during that era.  The Final Night, just before Morrison started, was the last one that really impacted multiple books up through Identity Crisis. Between those, you get your occasional unholy mess like Genesis or Bloodline or whatnot, but apart from advancing the Hal Jordan through-line in Day of Judgement, crossovers were skippable and inconsequential when they happened.  (Even 1,000,000, which didn&#039;t really do anything other than kill Resurrection Man.  [And Vandal Savage, but it&#039;s not like anyone ever thought that would take.])</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flash replacement was a strictly Flash-titles-generated event, so that goes into the same bucket as NML and Electric Blue.  I don&#8217;t remember what was going on with Wonder Woman, but I suspect it came out of the WW titles or at least their writer (if it was in Genesis, that was Byrne and so was WW at the time, right?).</p>
<p>Keeping time with what&#8217;s going on in their solo books is the price for using the Big 7 JLA.  I&#8217;m talking about losing access to characters that ought to &#8216;belong&#8217; to the JLA, having no permanent home due to a line-wide crossover event.  And line-wide crossover events were in decline during that era.  The Final Night, just before Morrison started, was the last one that really impacted multiple books up through Identity Crisis. Between those, you get your occasional unholy mess like Genesis or Bloodline or whatnot, but apart from advancing the Hal Jordan through-line in Day of Judgement, crossovers were skippable and inconsequential when they happened.  (Even 1,000,000, which didn&#8217;t really do anything other than kill Resurrection Man.  [And Vandal Savage, but it's not like anyone ever thought that would take.])</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, it came at a time when there were yearly megacrossovers that got their own miniseries: Genesis was part of JLA #10, One Million (which was Morrison&#039;s) happened between #23 and #24, and Day of Judgement was part of #35, plus the No Man&#039;s Land stuff. That&#039;s five crossover issues in three years of stories.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I read all of Morrison&#039;s run when it first came out, and it was the only book at DC I read at the time.  I didn&#039;t even browse the covers of DC books, I would just go into the DC section of the store only to pick up JLA on the days it came out and no other time.  And I will honestly say, until now I had no idea any of those crossovers were being touched upon in Morrison&#039;s run outside of the DC One Million stuff.  I never even heard of the Genesis crossover until I just googled it to see what you were talking about.  I don&#039;t remember a crossover called Day of Judgment and although I  know what No Man&#039;s Land is I can&#039;t recall a single tie-in to it in Morrison&#039;s JLA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, it came at a time when there were yearly megacrossovers that got their own miniseries: Genesis was part of JLA #10, One Million (which was Morrison&#8217;s) happened between #23 and #24, and Day of Judgement was part of #35, plus the No Man&#8217;s Land stuff. That&#8217;s five crossover issues in three years of stories.</p></blockquote>
<p>I read all of Morrison&#8217;s run when it first came out, and it was the only book at DC I read at the time.  I didn&#8217;t even browse the covers of DC books, I would just go into the DC section of the store only to pick up JLA on the days it came out and no other time.  And I will honestly say, until now I had no idea any of those crossovers were being touched upon in Morrison&#8217;s run outside of the DC One Million stuff.  I never even heard of the Genesis crossover until I just googled it to see what you were talking about.  I don&#8217;t remember a crossover called Day of Judgment and although I  know what No Man&#8217;s Land is I can&#8217;t recall a single tie-in to it in Morrison&#8217;s JLA.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But my point sort of stands, in that neither Genesis nor Day of Judgement killed or made unavailable any of Morrison&#039;s cast, or really did anything that couldn&#039;t be utterly ignored for that matter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Both Wonder Woman AND Flash were made unavailable to Morrison during his run (Wonder Woman was &quot;killed&quot; while Flash was replaced by an alternate reality Flash).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But my point sort of stands, in that neither Genesis nor Day of Judgement killed or made unavailable any of Morrison&#8217;s cast, or really did anything that couldn&#8217;t be utterly ignored for that matter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Both Wonder Woman AND Flash were made unavailable to Morrison during his run (Wonder Woman was &#8220;killed&#8221; while Flash was replaced by an alternate reality Flash).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  It occurs to me that I haven&#039;t read the Morrison run as issues since it actually happened, only the trades where such little things get minimized or edited out entirely.

But my point sort of stands, in that neither Genesis nor Day of Judgement killed or made unavailable any of Morrison&#039;s cast, or really did anything that couldn&#039;t be utterly ignored for that matter.  The stories that did make Morrison work around them were the sub-line-level ones like NML and Electric Blue Superman.  He didn&#039;t have to deal with the Atom going missing after his ex killed someone or J&#039;onn getting killed like a chump, and for all of the sillyness of Electric Blue, he was still Clark and not Donna Troy or something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  It occurs to me that I haven&#8217;t read the Morrison run as issues since it actually happened, only the trades where such little things get minimized or edited out entirely.</p>
<p>But my point sort of stands, in that neither Genesis nor Day of Judgement killed or made unavailable any of Morrison&#8217;s cast, or really did anything that couldn&#8217;t be utterly ignored for that matter.  The stories that did make Morrison work around them were the sub-line-level ones like NML and Electric Blue Superman.  He didn&#8217;t have to deal with the Atom going missing after his ex killed someone or J&#8217;onn getting killed like a chump, and for all of the sillyness of Electric Blue, he was still Clark and not Donna Troy or something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Genesis happened directly in the middle of Morrison&#039;s multi-part storyline!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Genesis happened directly in the middle of Morrison&#8217;s multi-part storyline!!</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

&lt;blockquote&gt;Morrison&#039;s run came during a time without any really major crossovers to work around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



No, it came at a time when there were yearly megacrossovers that got their own miniseries: Genesis was part of JLA #10, One Million (which was Morrison&#039;s) happened between #23 and #24, and Day of Judgement was part of #35, plus the No Man&#039;s Land stuff.  That&#039;s five crossover issues in three years of stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Morrison&#8217;s run came during a time without any really major crossovers to work around.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it came at a time when there were yearly megacrossovers that got their own miniseries: Genesis was part of JLA #10, One Million (which was Morrison&#8217;s) happened between #23 and #24, and Day of Judgement was part of #35, plus the No Man&#8217;s Land stuff.  That&#8217;s five crossover issues in three years of stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have faith in Robinson as a writer. I&#039;ve been enjoying his Superman stuff so far and am willing to be patient for a few months as he sets his tone/direction.
My fear is that DC did not learn a lesson from McDuffie&#039;s run and will continue to interfere with the direction Robinson wants to take the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have faith in Robinson as a writer. I&#8217;ve been enjoying his Superman stuff so far and am willing to be patient for a few months as he sets his tone/direction.<br />
My fear is that DC did not learn a lesson from McDuffie&#8217;s run and will continue to interfere with the direction Robinson wants to take the title.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitz - I can&#039;t speak for Brian but my guess is maybe he&#039;s using lowered expectations to judge Robinson&#039;s writing because of how awful Cry for Justice has been.  Because the more I read about this issue here and on other sites, Robinson&#039;s contribution definitely seems to be weak as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitz &#8211; I can&#8217;t speak for Brian but my guess is maybe he&#8217;s using lowered expectations to judge Robinson&#8217;s writing because of how awful Cry for Justice has been.  Because the more I read about this issue here and on other sites, Robinson&#8217;s contribution definitely seems to be weak as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cage</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Sean Whitmore -- I guess it came across that I was saying that Robinson&#039;s cast were made to appear better than the current roster when, as you noted, they didn&#039;t actually appear in the book, but what I meant was the present JLA was appeared so badly in this issue that Robinson&#039;s cast of favorites will only look better by comparison. Which is particularly galling for me (a fan of Vixen, Red Tornado, et al) since it&#039;s been well-publicized that with the exception of Dr. Light, they&#039;re all being written out of the book. So not only are they getting the boot, but they&#039;re getting smacked around on the way out. Plastic Man&#039;s a mess, Vixen is petty and unable to deal with a broken leg... the only character that comes off half-way decent is Red Tornado, and he&#039;s portrayed as a guy who has trouble remembering his own past and familial relations.

Not sure if that all makes sense, but it&#039;s late and I&#039;m tired. Hope it tracks.

Have a good day.
John Cage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Sean Whitmore &#8212; I guess it came across that I was saying that Robinson&#8217;s cast were made to appear better than the current roster when, as you noted, they didn&#8217;t actually appear in the book, but what I meant was the present JLA was appeared so badly in this issue that Robinson&#8217;s cast of favorites will only look better by comparison. Which is particularly galling for me (a fan of Vixen, Red Tornado, et al) since it&#8217;s been well-publicized that with the exception of Dr. Light, they&#8217;re all being written out of the book. So not only are they getting the boot, but they&#8217;re getting smacked around on the way out. Plastic Man&#8217;s a mess, Vixen is petty and unable to deal with a broken leg&#8230; the only character that comes off half-way decent is Red Tornado, and he&#8217;s portrayed as a guy who has trouble remembering his own past and familial relations.</p>
<p>Not sure if that all makes sense, but it&#8217;s late and I&#8217;m tired. Hope it tracks.</p>
<p>Have a good day.<br />
John Cage</p>
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		<title>By: Desaad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess I&#039;m in the minority. I thought it was a pretty good start, with solid characterization, excellent action and surprisingly decent dialog. I think everyone is pre-judging and pre-disposed to not liking the book, but we&#039;ll have to see where we are in a year I suppose. 

Still, I have high hopes for this - in a book full of characters I don&#039;t care about, written by a writer who doesn&#039;t care about most of them, I was entertained. What happens when characters I DO like (Mon El, Hal Jordan, The Guardian) and characters the writer WANTS come onto the book? 

Good things, I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess I&#8217;m in the minority. I thought it was a pretty good start, with solid characterization, excellent action and surprisingly decent dialog. I think everyone is pre-judging and pre-disposed to not liking the book, but we&#8217;ll have to see where we are in a year I suppose. </p>
<p>Still, I have high hopes for this &#8211; in a book full of characters I don&#8217;t care about, written by a writer who doesn&#8217;t care about most of them, I was entertained. What happens when characters I DO like (Mon El, Hal Jordan, The Guardian) and characters the writer WANTS come onto the book? </p>
<p>Good things, I hope.</p>
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