Comments on: Nostalgia November Day 20 — Secret Weapons #1 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/20/nostalgia-november-day-20-secret-weapons-1/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:44:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Nitz the Bloody http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/20/nostalgia-november-day-20-secret-weapons-1/comment-page-1/#comment-753260 Nitz the Bloody Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:15:12 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=35666#comment-753260 " It's weird that, as bad as Liefeld's art is from a technical standpoint, somehow technically-solid artists trying to ape him or McFarlane are worse still on the merits. " It makes sense, because while McFarlane's art is technically more solid than Liefeld's, it's also even more exaggerated in its horror-movie distortions-- pretzel-contorted Spidey with messes of spaghetti strand webbing and huge eyes on the mask coming first to mind-- than Liefeld's art, which just favors bigger muscles and bigger guns. So trying to ape the style is an even bigger leap than just bulking up guns ( metaphorical muscles or actual )-- and is most often met with failure. ” It’s weird that, as bad as Liefeld’s art is from a technical standpoint, somehow technically-solid artists trying to ape him or McFarlane are worse still on the merits. ”

It makes sense, because while McFarlane’s art is technically more solid than Liefeld’s, it’s also even more exaggerated in its horror-movie distortions– pretzel-contorted Spidey with messes of spaghetti strand webbing and huge eyes on the mask coming first to mind– than Liefeld’s art, which just favors bigger muscles and bigger guns. So trying to ape the style is an even bigger leap than just bulking up guns ( metaphorical muscles or actual )– and is most often met with failure.

]]> By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy! http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/20/nostalgia-november-day-20-secret-weapons-1/comment-page-1/#comment-753249 Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:11:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=35666#comment-753249 Huh -- I rather liked Doctor Eclipse as a concept, myself; essentially, wasn't he a necromantic parody of Solar, substituting Darque power and mysticism for Solar's pseudo-science? And unlike Soalr, who struggled to maintain touch with his humanity, Fred Bender gleefully throws his away and seems to revel in it. It's not the deepest conflict, but it works well as what it is. What makes it a shark jump, exactly? Huh — I rather liked Doctor Eclipse as a concept, myself; essentially, wasn’t he a necromantic parody of Solar, substituting Darque power and mysticism for Solar’s pseudo-science? And unlike Soalr, who struggled to maintain touch with his humanity, Fred Bender gleefully throws his away and seems to revel in it.

It’s not the deepest conflict, but it works well as what it is. What makes it a shark jump, exactly?

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]]> By: Chad Nevett http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/20/nostalgia-november-day-20-secret-weapons-1/comment-page-1/#comment-753077 Chad Nevett Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:30:41 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=35666#comment-753077 Agreed. Agreed.

]]> By: Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy! http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/11/20/nostalgia-november-day-20-secret-weapons-1/comment-page-1/#comment-753028 Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy! Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:36:43 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=35666#comment-753028 Sadly, Joe St. Pierre adopted one of those horrific Liefeld/McFarlane imitation styles a few years later at Marvel. It's weird that, as bad as Liefeld's art is from a technical standpoint, somehow technically-solid artists trying to ape him or McFarlane are worse still on the merits. Sadly, Joe St. Pierre adopted one of those horrific Liefeld/McFarlane imitation styles a few years later at Marvel.

It’s weird that, as bad as Liefeld’s art is from a technical standpoint, somehow technically-solid artists trying to ape him or McFarlane are worse still on the merits.

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