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Beast Back to the Avengers!

Well, Secret Avengers, at least.

Marvel released their first Secret Avengers promo, and it’s pretty clearly Beast (click to enlarge).

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Now it makes you wonder what Secret Avengers will be (great name, by the way). Ed Brubaker and Mike Deodato will be the creative team, so I’m guessing it almost certainly will be the replacement for Dark Avengers, in the sense that Norman Osborn, Head of HAMMER, had his private Avengers group, so this will be Steve Rogers’ private Avengers group (as Steve Rogers is basically Brubaker’s personal character at the moment, as Rogers’ stories are spinning directly out of Brubaker’s Cap run), only instead of calling them the Invaders, they went with the much more marketable “Secret Avengers” name.

Very, very cool.

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bah. It’s not Beast.
It’s a non Peter Parker Spider-Man.

It’s Miguel O’ Hara.

It was Brubaker’s writing partner Matt Fraction who wrote Beast out of X-Men, so that makes some amount of sense.

could be gorilla man too

I don’t think it’s “obviously” anyone. It could be Beast or Spider-Man or Anti-Venom or anyone like that.

Matter-Pooper Lad

February 8, 2010 at 1:03 pm

Hmmm. Which crouchy guy could it be? (These days every team has to have somebody who crouches down in front of the group.)

Maybe the clue is the big codpiece the guy is wearing… : )

Wait, I thought it was Black Panther. Maybe if we could see the head?

How many fingers does Beast have lately? :-P

How many fingers does Beast have lately? :-P

Ha!

He currently has five meaty fingers. :)

You sure about that, Brian? I thought he lost a digit when he got all Simba-fied.

“solution” – this is a thinking person…..Beast it is.

They could always just send him back to the blue ape version. But I agree that it’s not immediately clear from the image who it is, exactly.

You sure about that, Brian? I thought he lost a digit when he got all Simba-fied.

If he did, he has since gotten it back, as he had five fingers during Brubaker and Fraction’s run on Uncanny (and obviously, on Fraction’s run, as well).

@Dantecat

I would imagine a thinking man would focus on the problem to come up with a solution. Focusing on the solution but not the problem sounds to me like someone who solves every problem the same way: with violence.

Maybe it’s just the blackness of it, but the first character I thought of when I saw this was Venom.

this is very unlikely but something about this said dr curt connors to me. the lizard in his lab coat with the good guys?

i wonder if the “secret” bit means this is nick fury’s new team.

He’s been consistently portrayed inconsistently. In his first appearances as Cat Beast, he’d lost a finger, all the way through the end of Beast’s spotlight on UncannyXmen.net. More recent issues don’t seem to pay as much attention. He has four fingers on the recent Greg Land cover, though.

I’m on the side of not seeing this as the Beast. It doesn’t look nearly bulky enough, though I agree that his portrayal since the change has been really inconsistent. But the quote doesn’t seem to fit, either. I think the suggestion of it being th Black Panther makes a bit more sense.

OK, I can’t tell at all which body part is which on the left side of his body.

Is that a foot above “I AM”?

I also thought it is Beast, but time will tell. It’s not Spider-man, he focuses on the problem too much.

dont think its beast…isnt he usually barefoot? this guy doesnt look like he is…

Matthew Johnson

February 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm

I’m not sure if “Secret Avengers” is such a great title… it brings back unhappy memories of “Secret Defenders” for me.

now that i think about it it reminds me of black panther…

Speculate all you want, It’s Beast.

He’s been consistently portrayed inconsistently. In his first appearances as Cat Beast, he’d lost a finger, all the way through the end of Beast’s spotlight on UncannyXmen.net. More recent issues don’t seem to pay as much attention. He has four fingers on the recent Greg Land cover, though.

Yeah, it IS weird that Land draws him with four fingers while Dodson and Yanick Paquette both draw him with five fingers (Dodson sometimes barely even draws him with any fingers – flipping through his issues, he often draws Beast’s hands as just big ol’ blobs).

beast was shown with other so called avengers to be in marvels siege promo so the image could be beast for the shape is right but it could also be gorilla man too for both have that shape. and beast was an avenger so if any one wanted to honor the avengers history beast could work in the science guy campacity

The “Secret” part is pretty reminiscent of Secret War/Warriors. Could there be some Nick Fury involvement here? God, I hope so. That would be most excellent.

As for the promo, I don’t think it’s obviously Beast. I think he’s a possibility, and a very good one at that, but certainly not the only one. Gorilla Man has roughly the same build, and would feel much at home on a SHIELD team, given his tenure in the Howling Commandos. (The monsters, not Fury’s.)

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Beast again? Haven’t they realised yet that Storm is the X-Men character who should be an Avenger…

Speculate all you want, It’s Beast.

That’s more or less my position. If I had any doubt, I’d have just thrown a question mark at the end of the title, “Beast Back to the Avengers?”

if it is beast then the shadow pic is heavily edited…no visible toes or claws…and if thats the case why bother…cant really speculate if its not just a shadowed pic

i love when people make opinions about promos and upcoming storylines and are like ‘oh its obviously that’ or ‘this is how it is. period.’ or ‘i can’t understand how anyone could even think anything else.’

“Focus on the solution, not the problem”…how is this different from, oh, every other Marvel character ever? Heh. I love meaningless taglines.

“Land draws [Beast] with four fingers”

That explains why he was written out of X-men. Land ran out of photos of people with only 4 fingers.

Wasn’t Cap’s team (featuring Cable and Iron Fist of all people) called the Secret Avengers during Civil War?

Wasn’t Cap’s team (featuring Cable and Iron Fist of all people) called the Secret Avengers during Civil War?

True, but I don’t know if that’s their reasoning here – I think they’re likely going more for a tie-in with the Secret Warriors theme – that book has Nick Fury, so its team is the Secret Warriors. This team will likely involve whatever comes out of HAMMER (probably a return to SHIELD), so it uses the “Secret” term, as well.

But really, of course, the main reason is surely because “Secret Avengers” is just a more marketable name than “Invaders” (and it really is – Secret Avengers is a cool name).

Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.

He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!

The Beast’s finger-issues were commented on when Fraction took over X-Men, and had Beast happily explain that he woke up and found he had “regained full use of [his] fingers” (after Morrison pointed out he no longer had the dexterity to play the piano anymore).

Now, whether that means he regrew a finger, or that damn pinky finger finally got back to work, or what, I dunno, but I just wanted to add that.

And yes, at the right angle, the head looks like his cat-snout pointing upwards.

I’m sure it’s mostly having grown up in the ’70s, but I always think of Beast as an Avenger.

Sure, he was in the X-Men, New Defenders, X-Factor and whatever else, but he’s mostly an Avenger in my book.

Of course by that same token, mostly I just want him back with his BFF Simon.

I’m not seeing a head there at all, Jeff. That looks like a knee to me.

Could it be Peter Parker? I’m thinking maybe this is about a group of Avengers who not only work together in costume, but as civilians, too. I could be wrong, but I kind of like that idea.

buttler- I was reading that as a head until you mentioned it as a knee! Forget my idea.

That is not beast. Arms are spread wide, so the item between the arms are his head. Thats not what Beast’s head looks like. Even when looking at it from under the chin (which I believe is how the character is posed).
Heard someone mentioned Gorilla Man. That’s possible because of the head configuration.
Whomever it is, they are bulky and agile, but not Beast. Also not convinced is that a bent leg or a tail jutting out of the lower left side.

That is not beast. Arms are spread wide, so the item between the arms are his head. Thats not what Beast’s

The head is not shown period. It is in the shadows. The figure is crouched/leaping forward, with his legs on the bottom, his left arm pointed up and his right arm pointing downward.

In other words, basically like 80% of all shots of the Beast leaping forward.

But I do agree that Beast is bulky and agile, like the picture.

There is nothing about Beast that is “very, very cool” unless we’re talking about his much-anticipated permanent-death scene that we, the long-suffering readers, so richly deserve.

I thinks it’s Venom (Gargan). He’s kinda bulky. But I’m very pleased if it’s Beast. He kinda mellowed with the X-Men. I want the fun-lovin’ Beast back…

Further going to prove my point that if they had called “Captain Britain an the MI:13″ simply “Avengers UK” or some derivative, it would not have been cancelled…

I’d love to see Gorilla Man on an Avengers team, but I would rather see the Agents of Atlas stay together. However, I don’t think this is his silhouette- I know anatomy is often ignored, in order to pose characters, but gorillas are never in the position hinted at here. I’m starting to lean toward it being Beast (and I know many people grew up with Beast as an Avenger, but I grew up with him as an X-Men Blue member- I don’t really know him as an Avenger).
I guess I just think the Avengers has enough genius scientists (Hank Pym, Tony Stark, and sometimes Bruce Banner). Why not let Beast continue to play that role with the X-Men? Who would take his place?

Well the Heroic Age picture (I imagine it can be found elsewhere, but I saw it at: http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/comics/article/optimism-coming-back-to-comics-96013 ) has most of the new Avengers line-up (minus Spider-Woman) and some other classic (and not quite so classic) characters.
Spidey, Beast (with X costume), the Thing, Black Widow and Grape-Ape (errrr, Gorilla Man I guess) are the others. Maybe that’s a huge hint?

Wish I could edit my posts (actually, a time machine would work better and have far more applications). Here’s the embiggened Heroic Age pic. http://cdn.springboard.gorillanation.com/storage//upl_images/Heroic_Age.jpg

And do note that Beast in that Heroic Age promo has five fingers.

I hope it’s Beast, but I don’t think it’s a sure thing. Despite him being in X-Factor while I was going up, I read enough old issues of Avengers that that’s how I prefer him.

If it was Black Panther I’d be pretty happy, too.

That is so obviously Devil Dinosaur.

It’s Beast. Just like the Heroic Age ads weren’t the line up of the Avengers. It’s Beast.

It’s Beast. Just like the Heroic Age ads weren’t the line up of the Avengers. It’s Beast.

Exactly. Thanks, Eric.

Fingers crossed that one of the new Avengers titles is GLAvengers… written by Dan Slott.

I know that’s probabl not in the cards, but I liked his Avengers book a lot, and he seemed to have the classic kinds of stories down. So what’s he going to do now aside from Spidey?

I can’t tell if it’s Beast or not. Whoever it is has a very strange and twisted tiny foot, or something.

I didn’t even know there was going to be a Secret Avengers. I’m not sure I like the idea. I was really looking forward to the normal Avengers being back, and while I know this will be a different team, the name suggests some sort of dark, violent, black-ops-type group, which is exactly what Marvel needs to stop doing. And I don’t want them besmirching the Avengers’ name. There’s been enough of that already.

I like the idea of the Beast being an Avenger again. He was even better as a Defender, but I’ve given up hope of ever seeing a proper Defenders team again. I also wish he would return to the classic hairy look again. I don’t understand how anyone could think this kitty look was a good idea.

Assuming you’re talking about the bottom right part of the shadow, Mary, I believe the twisted and tiny foot of which you speak is two fingers of a huge freaking hand — or one very much in the foreground, anyway.

Assuming you’re talking about the bottom right part of the shadow, Mary, I believe the twisted and tiny foot of which you speak is two fingers of a huge freaking hand — or one very much in the foreground, anyway.

Yep.

I didn’t even know there was going to be a Secret Avengers. I’m not sure I like the idea. I was really looking forward to the normal Avengers being back, and while I know this will be a different team, the name suggests some sort of dark, violent, black-ops-type group, which is exactly what Marvel needs to stop doing. And I don’t want them besmirching the Avengers’ name. There’s been enough of that already.

Steve Rogers will almost certainly be in charge, so it will not be a dark, violent team.

Heck, even if Steve ISN’T involved, Beast is certainly not someone who’s going to be part of a dark, violent team.

That’s pretty clearly a penis.

I’ve been waiting since issue 211 for Hank to come back. But now they’re going to spread the cool Avengers over three or four different titles what’s the point?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

February 8, 2010 at 9:46 pm

I reckon it’s Cyber-Frog.

Yeah, I can see now how it can be overlapping fingers. I tried for some time to figure out exactly what it was supposed to be, but that never occured to me for some reason. I guess I was seeing his hand in a different position with only the two obvious fingers showing.

And I know a dark violent team would be wrong for Steve Rogers or Hank McCoy. I’m just saying that’s the image the name triggers in my mind. I really wanted Steve back in the regular Avengers. I was shocked when I read on here that Bucky was going to stay on the team as the Captain.

But now they’re going to spread the cool Avengers over three or four different titles what’s the point?

To get you to buy three or four different titles? :)

Is that your right foot, or are you just happy to see me?

it’s either spider-man or a spider-clone

Gah, another interesting book with an awesome creative team. I really need to win the lottery pretty soon.

You’re all wrong.

It’s obviously the greatest Marvel Superhero of all…

Union Jack!

:-)

“Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.

He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!”

HA! Datsagood1. Its Black Panther.

“Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.

He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!”

HA! Datsagood1. Its Black Panther.

like x-dude, the very first thing i thought when i saw this yesterday was “The Lizard???” seems unlikely but the Connors is a scientist and his mutated condition itself is obviously solution-focused as opposed to problem-focused (as evidenced by the outcome).

I think Marvel has come up with a brilliant new psycho-analytical tool.

Psychologist: Just look at this Secret Avenger Promo and tell me who it is. There is no wrong answer.

Fanboy: Congorilla

Psychologist: That is incorrect

Wouldn’t it be fun if they made the Beast into a character who actually DID things?

I swear, he stopped being treated as anything more than a glorified extra years ago.

I think it’s Gorilla Man based on the second Heroic Age teaser.

The Secret Avengers appear to be Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Luke Cage, Wasp, Gorilla Man and Black Widow.

I think Wasp/Hank Pym should be on a main Avengers team since he’s a very “super hero” type of science character who fits in more with mainstream Marvel super-fantasy situations, but otherwise this is a pretty good team for a covert ops Avengers. I would have prefered to see Bucky on this team. Maybe Falcon. A team of Avengers that relys more on guns and basic weapons than powers to offset the more dramtaic and science fiction-fantasy team of Avengers.

i agree, sounds like Beast

Anyone else see this silhouette and think of that flash animation rap about George Washington? “If you took off his boot you’d see the dicks growing off of his feet.” The animation for that sequence looks almost exactly like this picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGYVNDSyTwM

NSFW — just after the 2:00 mark if you want to skip the rest of the genius to get to that part.

If it was Gorilla Man, he’s probably have guns. Clint (Or, rather, Hawkeye) is confirmed to be a member of Bendis’ Avengers. And no one from that image fits the profile of the second Secret Avengers teaser. (Which, I’ll admit, has me stumped. Cloak, maybe?)

The second promo is most likely Moon Knight.

But since I am not positive about that one (unlike this one), no “Moon Knight joins the Avengers!” entry. :)

Hmmm…but maybe a “Moon Knight Joins the Avengers?” entry! ;)

We’re obviously supposed to THINK it’s Venom. So it likely isn’t.

if there secret avengers than there by default not public avengers both spiderman and beast are public avengers. i would think that a secret avenger is someone who one would not expect to be an avenger.

i submit my guess. the one time leader of the brotherhood of evil mutants , the very crouchy , TOAD.

I’ll be seeing it! Looks good!

From the movie Iron Man, it seems like there is going to be another movie. Is there something called the Avengers? When is it coming out?

I think its a very cool idea. I like the idea of the Beast being an Avenger again. I also wish he would return to the classic hairy look again.

I am confused who it is it must be Beast or may be bats man spider man and i think it is a good idea of the Beast i have been waiting for this from a long time.

I think bats man is indeed the most logical conclusion we can draw from this.

That is not beast. Thats not what Beast’s head looks like.

That is not beast. Thats not what Beast’s head looks like.

Good point – I guess it isn’t Beast.

I would have prefered to see Bucky on this team. Maybe Falcon. A team of Avengers that relys more on guns and basic weapons than powers to offset the more dramtaic and science fiction-fantasy team of Avengers.

I know who it is! it’s arm-for-a-head lad!

Well this isn’t look like a beast. :s

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Well, I agree that his portrayal since the change has been really inconsistent.

Its not looking like a beast its looking very funny:S

Wow, it back, as he had five fingers during Brubaker and Fraction’s run on Uncanny (and obviously, on Fraction’s run, as well).

Marvel is pretty amazing. Created a new edition of Secret Avenger. I just remembered that line in my work before ‘I focus on the solution not the problem’ it’s just like saying ‘Your problem is my problem’.

Heard someone mentioned Gorilla Man. That’s possible because of the head configuration.
Whomever it is, they are bulky and agile, but not Beast. Also not convinced is that a bent leg or a tail jutting out of the lower left side.

Good point – I guess it isn’t Beast.

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