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Beast Back to the Avengers!
Well, Secret Avengers, at least.
Marvel released their first Secret Avengers promo, and it’s pretty clearly Beast (click to enlarge).
Now it makes you wonder what Secret Avengers will be (great name, by the way). Ed Brubaker and Mike Deodato will be the creative team, so I’m guessing it almost certainly will be the replacement for Dark Avengers, in the sense that Norman Osborn, Head of HAMMER, had his private Avengers group, so this will be Steve Rogers’ private Avengers group (as Steve Rogers is basically Brubaker’s personal character at the moment, as Rogers’ stories are spinning directly out of Brubaker’s Cap run), only instead of calling them the Invaders, they went with the much more marketable “Secret Avengers” name.
Very, very cool.







97 Comments
schmakt
February 8, 2010 at 12:45 pm
bah. It’s not Beast.
It’s a non Peter Parker Spider-Man.
It’s Miguel O’ Hara.
Conor E
February 8, 2010 at 12:49 pm
It was Brubaker’s writing partner Matt Fraction who wrote Beast out of X-Men, so that makes some amount of sense.
Tyler
February 8, 2010 at 12:52 pm
could be gorilla man too
Hunter
February 8, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I don’t think it’s “obviously” anyone. It could be Beast or Spider-Man or Anti-Venom or anyone like that.
Matter-Pooper Lad
February 8, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Hmmm. Which crouchy guy could it be? (These days every team has to have somebody who crouches down in front of the group.)
Maybe the clue is the big codpiece the guy is wearing… : )
winterteeth
February 8, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Wait, I thought it was Black Panther. Maybe if we could see the head?
Hunter
February 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm
How many fingers does Beast have lately?
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Ha!
He currently has five meaty fingers.
Ian A.
February 8, 2010 at 1:21 pm
You sure about that, Brian? I thought he lost a digit when he got all Simba-fied.
Dantecat
February 8, 2010 at 1:26 pm
“solution” – this is a thinking person…..Beast it is.
Michael P
February 8, 2010 at 1:27 pm
They could always just send him back to the blue ape version. But I agree that it’s not immediately clear from the image who it is, exactly.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 1:34 pm
If he did, he has since gotten it back, as he had five fingers during Brubaker and Fraction’s run on Uncanny (and obviously, on Fraction’s run, as well).
Chad Walters
February 8, 2010 at 1:39 pm
@Dantecat
I would imagine a thinking man would focus on the problem to come up with a solution. Focusing on the solution but not the problem sounds to me like someone who solves every problem the same way: with violence.
Maybe it’s just the blackness of it, but the first character I thought of when I saw this was Venom.
x-dude
February 8, 2010 at 1:40 pm
this is very unlikely but something about this said dr curt connors to me. the lizard in his lab coat with the good guys?
i wonder if the “secret” bit means this is nick fury’s new team.
Hunter
February 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm
He’s been consistently portrayed inconsistently. In his first appearances as Cat Beast, he’d lost a finger, all the way through the end of Beast’s spotlight on UncannyXmen.net. More recent issues don’t seem to pay as much attention. He has four fingers on the recent Greg Land cover, though.
Paul
February 8, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I’m on the side of not seeing this as the Beast. It doesn’t look nearly bulky enough, though I agree that his portrayal since the change has been really inconsistent. But the quote doesn’t seem to fit, either. I think the suggestion of it being th Black Panther makes a bit more sense.
Dan Felty
February 8, 2010 at 1:51 pm
OK, I can’t tell at all which body part is which on the left side of his body.
Is that a foot above “I AM”?
Mr. M
February 8, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I also thought it is Beast, but time will tell. It’s not Spider-man, he focuses on the problem too much.
ed
February 8, 2010 at 1:55 pm
dont think its beast…isnt he usually barefoot? this guy doesnt look like he is…
Matthew Johnson
February 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm
I’m not sure if “Secret Avengers” is such a great title… it brings back unhappy memories of “Secret Defenders” for me.
ed
February 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm
now that i think about it it reminds me of black panther…
TheRealMcCoy
February 8, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Speculate all you want, It’s Beast.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Yeah, it IS weird that Land draws him with four fingers while Dodson and Yanick Paquette both draw him with five fingers (Dodson sometimes barely even draws him with any fingers – flipping through his issues, he often draws Beast’s hands as just big ol’ blobs).
chad
February 8, 2010 at 1:59 pm
beast was shown with other so called avengers to be in marvels siege promo so the image could be beast for the shape is right but it could also be gorilla man too for both have that shape. and beast was an avenger so if any one wanted to honor the avengers history beast could work in the science guy campacity
Anonymous
February 8, 2010 at 2:00 pm
The “Secret” part is pretty reminiscent of Secret War/Warriors. Could there be some Nick Fury involvement here? God, I hope so. That would be most excellent.
As for the promo, I don’t think it’s obviously Beast. I think he’s a possibility, and a very good one at that, but certainly not the only one. Gorilla Man has roughly the same build, and would feel much at home on a SHIELD team, given his tenure in the Howling Commandos. (The monsters, not Fury’s.)
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Tom Daylight
February 8, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Beast again? Haven’t they realised yet that Storm is the X-Men character who should be an Avenger…
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 2:10 pm
That’s more or less my position. If I had any doubt, I’d have just thrown a question mark at the end of the title, “Beast Back to the Avengers?”
ed
February 8, 2010 at 2:16 pm
if it is beast then the shadow pic is heavily edited…no visible toes or claws…and if thats the case why bother…cant really speculate if its not just a shadowed pic
karl
February 8, 2010 at 2:17 pm
i love when people make opinions about promos and upcoming storylines and are like ‘oh its obviously that’ or ‘this is how it is. period.’ or ‘i can’t understand how anyone could even think anything else.’
Anonymous
February 8, 2010 at 2:29 pm
“Focus on the solution, not the problem”…how is this different from, oh, every other Marvel character ever? Heh. I love meaningless taglines.
Ian
February 8, 2010 at 2:40 pm
“Land draws [Beast] with four fingers”
That explains why he was written out of X-men. Land ran out of photos of people with only 4 fingers.
Ian
February 8, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Wasn’t Cap’s team (featuring Cable and Iron Fist of all people) called the Secret Avengers during Civil War?
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 2:43 pm
True, but I don’t know if that’s their reasoning here – I think they’re likely going more for a tie-in with the Secret Warriors theme – that book has Nick Fury, so its team is the Secret Warriors. This team will likely involve whatever comes out of HAMMER (probably a return to SHIELD), so it uses the “Secret” term, as well.
But really, of course, the main reason is surely because “Secret Avengers” is just a more marketable name than “Invaders” (and it really is – Secret Avengers is a cool name).
buttler
February 8, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.
He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!
Jeff Holland
February 8, 2010 at 3:03 pm
The Beast’s finger-issues were commented on when Fraction took over X-Men, and had Beast happily explain that he woke up and found he had “regained full use of [his] fingers” (after Morrison pointed out he no longer had the dexterity to play the piano anymore).
Now, whether that means he regrew a finger, or that damn pinky finger finally got back to work, or what, I dunno, but I just wanted to add that.
And yes, at the right angle, the head looks like his cat-snout pointing upwards.
buttler
February 8, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I’m sure it’s mostly having grown up in the ’70s, but I always think of Beast as an Avenger.
Sure, he was in the X-Men, New Defenders, X-Factor and whatever else, but he’s mostly an Avenger in my book.
Of course by that same token, mostly I just want him back with his BFF Simon.
buttler
February 8, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I’m not seeing a head there at all, Jeff. That looks like a knee to me.
r
February 8, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Could it be Peter Parker? I’m thinking maybe this is about a group of Avengers who not only work together in costume, but as civilians, too. I could be wrong, but I kind of like that idea.
r
February 8, 2010 at 3:13 pm
buttler- I was reading that as a head until you mentioned it as a knee! Forget my idea.
Raz
February 8, 2010 at 3:50 pm
That is not beast. Arms are spread wide, so the item between the arms are his head. Thats not what Beast’s head looks like. Even when looking at it from under the chin (which I believe is how the character is posed).
Heard someone mentioned Gorilla Man. That’s possible because of the head configuration.
Whomever it is, they are bulky and agile, but not Beast. Also not convinced is that a bent leg or a tail jutting out of the lower left side.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 3:54 pm
The head is not shown period. It is in the shadows. The figure is crouched/leaping forward, with his legs on the bottom, his left arm pointed up and his right arm pointing downward.
In other words, basically like 80% of all shots of the Beast leaping forward.
But I do agree that Beast is bulky and agile, like the picture.
agent_torpor
February 8, 2010 at 3:59 pm
There is nothing about Beast that is “very, very cool” unless we’re talking about his much-anticipated permanent-death scene that we, the long-suffering readers, so richly deserve.
Sunspot9224
February 8, 2010 at 4:21 pm
I thinks it’s Venom (Gargan). He’s kinda bulky. But I’m very pleased if it’s Beast. He kinda mellowed with the X-Men. I want the fun-lovin’ Beast back…
fanboy d
February 8, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Further going to prove my point that if they had called “Captain Britain an the MI:13″ simply “Avengers UK” or some derivative, it would not have been cancelled…
r
February 8, 2010 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see Gorilla Man on an Avengers team, but I would rather see the Agents of Atlas stay together. However, I don’t think this is his silhouette- I know anatomy is often ignored, in order to pose characters, but gorillas are never in the position hinted at here. I’m starting to lean toward it being Beast (and I know many people grew up with Beast as an Avenger, but I grew up with him as an X-Men Blue member- I don’t really know him as an Avenger).
I guess I just think the Avengers has enough genius scientists (Hank Pym, Tony Stark, and sometimes Bruce Banner). Why not let Beast continue to play that role with the X-Men? Who would take his place?
Van GoghX
February 8, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Well the Heroic Age picture (I imagine it can be found elsewhere, but I saw it at: http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/comics/article/optimism-coming-back-to-comics-96013 ) has most of the new Avengers line-up (minus Spider-Woman) and some other classic (and not quite so classic) characters.
Spidey, Beast (with X costume), the Thing, Black Widow and Grape-Ape (errrr, Gorilla Man I guess) are the others. Maybe that’s a huge hint?
Van GoghX
February 8, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Wish I could edit my posts (actually, a time machine would work better and have far more applications). Here’s the embiggened Heroic Age pic. http://cdn.springboard.gorillanation.com/storage//upl_images/Heroic_Age.jpg
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 5:05 pm
And do note that Beast in that Heroic Age promo has five fingers.
jazzbo
February 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I hope it’s Beast, but I don’t think it’s a sure thing. Despite him being in X-Factor while I was going up, I read enough old issues of Avengers that that’s how I prefer him.
If it was Black Panther I’d be pretty happy, too.
Adam K
February 8, 2010 at 7:42 pm
That is so obviously Devil Dinosaur.
Eric
February 8, 2010 at 8:25 pm
It’s Beast. Just like the Heroic Age ads weren’t the line up of the Avengers. It’s Beast.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Exactly. Thanks, Eric.
sterg
February 8, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Fingers crossed that one of the new Avengers titles is GLAvengers… written by Dan Slott.
I know that’s probabl not in the cards, but I liked his Avengers book a lot, and he seemed to have the classic kinds of stories down. So what’s he going to do now aside from Spidey?
Mary Warner
February 8, 2010 at 9:08 pm
I can’t tell if it’s Beast or not. Whoever it is has a very strange and twisted tiny foot, or something.
I didn’t even know there was going to be a Secret Avengers. I’m not sure I like the idea. I was really looking forward to the normal Avengers being back, and while I know this will be a different team, the name suggests some sort of dark, violent, black-ops-type group, which is exactly what Marvel needs to stop doing. And I don’t want them besmirching the Avengers’ name. There’s been enough of that already.
I like the idea of the Beast being an Avenger again. He was even better as a Defender, but I’ve given up hope of ever seeing a proper Defenders team again. I also wish he would return to the classic hairy look again. I don’t understand how anyone could think this kitty look was a good idea.
buttler
February 8, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Assuming you’re talking about the bottom right part of the shadow, Mary, I believe the twisted and tiny foot of which you speak is two fingers of a huge freaking hand — or one very much in the foreground, anyway.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Yep.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Steve Rogers will almost certainly be in charge, so it will not be a dark, violent team.
Heck, even if Steve ISN’T involved, Beast is certainly not someone who’s going to be part of a dark, violent team.
The Mutt
February 8, 2010 at 9:27 pm
That’s pretty clearly a penis.
Black Manta
February 8, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I’ve been waiting since issue 211 for Hank to come back. But now they’re going to spread the cool Avengers over three or four different titles what’s the point?
FunkyGreenJerusalem
February 8, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I reckon it’s Cyber-Frog.
Mary Warner
February 8, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Yeah, I can see now how it can be overlapping fingers. I tried for some time to figure out exactly what it was supposed to be, but that never occured to me for some reason. I guess I was seeing his hand in a different position with only the two obvious fingers showing.
And I know a dark violent team would be wrong for Steve Rogers or Hank McCoy. I’m just saying that’s the image the name triggers in my mind. I really wanted Steve back in the regular Avengers. I was shocked when I read on here that Bucky was going to stay on the team as the Captain.
Brian Cronin
February 8, 2010 at 10:21 pm
To get you to buy three or four different titles?
tekende
February 8, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Is that your right foot, or are you just happy to see me?
xmennut
February 9, 2010 at 3:37 am
it’s either spider-man or a spider-clone
Applemask
February 9, 2010 at 6:07 am
Gah, another interesting book with an awesome creative team. I really need to win the lottery pretty soon.
Blackjak
February 9, 2010 at 6:23 am
You’re all wrong.
It’s obviously the greatest Marvel Superhero of all…
Union Jack!
azjohnson5a\
February 9, 2010 at 7:13 am
“Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.
He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!”
HA! Datsagood1. Its Black Panther.
azjohnson5
February 9, 2010 at 7:14 am
“Hey look, the Human Fly! About time they brought that guy back.
He’s the wildest super-hero ever — because he’s REAL!”
HA! Datsagood1. Its Black Panther.
Nick Marino
February 9, 2010 at 8:11 am
like x-dude, the very first thing i thought when i saw this yesterday was “The Lizard???” seems unlikely but the Connors is a scientist and his mutated condition itself is obviously solution-focused as opposed to problem-focused (as evidenced by the outcome).
Dave Hackett
February 9, 2010 at 8:38 am
I think Marvel has come up with a brilliant new psycho-analytical tool.
Psychologist: Just look at this Secret Avenger Promo and tell me who it is. There is no wrong answer.
Fanboy: Congorilla
Psychologist: That is incorrect
Anonymous
February 9, 2010 at 8:46 am
Wouldn’t it be fun if they made the Beast into a character who actually DID things?
I swear, he stopped being treated as anything more than a glorified extra years ago.
sowat
February 9, 2010 at 9:52 am
I think it’s Gorilla Man based on the second Heroic Age teaser.
The Secret Avengers appear to be Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Luke Cage, Wasp, Gorilla Man and Black Widow.
I think Wasp/Hank Pym should be on a main Avengers team since he’s a very “super hero” type of science character who fits in more with mainstream Marvel super-fantasy situations, but otherwise this is a pretty good team for a covert ops Avengers. I would have prefered to see Bucky on this team. Maybe Falcon. A team of Avengers that relys more on guns and basic weapons than powers to offset the more dramtaic and science fiction-fantasy team of Avengers.
Christi Johnson
February 9, 2010 at 11:33 am
i agree, sounds like Beast
Scott Harris
February 9, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Anyone else see this silhouette and think of that flash animation rap about George Washington? “If you took off his boot you’d see the dicks growing off of his feet.” The animation for that sequence looks almost exactly like this picture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGYVNDSyTwM
NSFW — just after the 2:00 mark if you want to skip the rest of the genius to get to that part.
Anonymous
February 9, 2010 at 1:05 pm
If it was Gorilla Man, he’s probably have guns. Clint (Or, rather, Hawkeye) is confirmed to be a member of Bendis’ Avengers. And no one from that image fits the profile of the second Secret Avengers teaser. (Which, I’ll admit, has me stumped. Cloak, maybe?)
Brian Cronin
February 9, 2010 at 1:18 pm
The second promo is most likely Moon Knight.
But since I am not positive about that one (unlike this one), no “Moon Knight joins the Avengers!” entry.
Hmmm…but maybe a “Moon Knight Joins the Avengers?” entry!
Thanos
February 10, 2010 at 1:51 pm
We’re obviously supposed to THINK it’s Venom. So it likely isn’t.
igorbabyeater
April 25, 2010 at 8:36 pm
if there secret avengers than there by default not public avengers both spiderman and beast are public avengers. i would think that a secret avenger is someone who one would not expect to be an avenger.
i submit my guess. the one time leader of the brotherhood of evil mutants , the very crouchy , TOAD.
Sandra
May 12, 2010 at 9:22 am
I’ll be seeing it! Looks good!
Mandy
May 20, 2010 at 8:51 pm
From the movie Iron Man, it seems like there is going to be another movie. Is there something called the Avengers? When is it coming out?
Julie
May 21, 2010 at 11:19 am
I think its a very cool idea. I like the idea of the Beast being an Avenger again. I also wish he would return to the classic hairy look again.
Mary
May 21, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I am confused who it is it must be Beast or may be bats man spider man and i think it is a good idea of the Beast i have been waiting for this from a long time.
buttler
May 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I think bats man is indeed the most logical conclusion we can draw from this.
Katie
May 27, 2010 at 8:38 am
That is not beast. Thats not what Beast’s head looks like.
Brian Cronin
May 27, 2010 at 8:59 am
Good point – I guess it isn’t Beast.
Jackie
May 29, 2010 at 10:06 am
I would have prefered to see Bucky on this team. Maybe Falcon. A team of Avengers that relys more on guns and basic weapons than powers to offset the more dramtaic and science fiction-fantasy team of Avengers.
MarkAndrew
May 29, 2010 at 10:11 am
I know who it is! it’s arm-for-a-head lad!
Kerry
June 1, 2010 at 11:26 am
Well this isn’t look like a beast. :s
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Molly
June 29, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Well, I agree that his portrayal since the change has been really inconsistent.
alex
July 8, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Its not looking like a beast its looking very funny:S
Christine
July 27, 2010 at 9:09 am
Wow, it back, as he had five fingers during Brubaker and Fraction’s run on Uncanny (and obviously, on Fraction’s run, as well).
Kristi
November 6, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Pretty cool…
Sandra Hopkins
January 8, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Marvel is pretty amazing. Created a new edition of Secret Avenger. I just remembered that line in my work before ‘I focus on the solution not the problem’ it’s just like saying ‘Your problem is my problem’.
Allison Clark
March 16, 2011 at 3:17 am
Heard someone mentioned Gorilla Man. That’s possible because of the head configuration.
Whomever it is, they are bulky and agile, but not Beast. Also not convinced is that a bent leg or a tail jutting out of the lower left side.
Brian Cronin
March 16, 2011 at 3:18 am
Good point – I guess it isn’t Beast.