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A Year of Cool Comics – Day 58

Here is the latest in our year-long look at one cool comic (whether it be a self-contained work, an ongoing comic or a run on a long-running title that featured multiple creative teams on it over the years) a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Today we take a look at the famous time travel issue of Deadpool!

Enjoy!

Deadpool #11, by Joe Kelly and Pete Woods, is a noteworthy issue in that it involves Deadpool (and his compatriot, the old blind woman named Blind Al) time-traveling to the past.

Not just the past, though, they travel to an old issue of Amazing Spider-Man by Stan Lee and John Romita, Sr.!!

Once in the past, Blind Al pretends to be Aunt May while Deadpool uses a hologram projector to make him appear as Peter Parker.

They then interact with characters from Amazing #47, including the villain of that issue, Kraven the Hunter.

They are trying to find Deadpool’s scientist friend, Weasel, who can help them get back to the present.

All throughout the issue, then, Joe Kelly pokes fun at the dialogue and plot of the old issue of Spider-Man.

Check out a couple of pages from the original (from 1966)…

Then see those old pages through a new light (from 1997)…

Pretty funny stuff, huh?

Deadpool even subs for Spidey in the fight with Kraven…

Kelly did a wonderful job mixing the old issue with the new one, and heck, just the IDEA itself is brilliant. Woods does a nice job making his art not stand out too much from Romita’s.

All together it is a very memorable and cool issue.

And finally, FINALLY, it has been reprinted! Deadpool Classic Vol. 3 reprints this issue! Hooray, Marvel!

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Absolutely love this issue.

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A “dancing” MJ.

Lord have mercy.
On us all.

;-)

starting to think what mj offered to mephisto was her retro mod dance skills

I finally got to read this issue in the aforementioned Deadpool vol. 3 and… it’s not that good. Well, it probably is, but reading Brian’s first review of it led me to expect a bit more. The idea is excellent and the execution is… not bad, but for some reason it just wasn’t hitting the right notes with me. Maybe I need to re-read it later or something. I do miss when Deadpool was more of a “fringe” title that could avoid the big crossovers and do wacky stuff like this though.

Man that was awesome when it came out (plus it even included the original just for comparison which was neat).

“So young to be involved with the crack” was my favorite line.

So Peter Parker was a teenager in the Swingin’ 60s? Which would make him around 60 years old today?

I’m mostly kidding, but I had the same problem with Avengers Forever. OMG, it’s Hank Pym, but from the era in Avengers history when he was Giant Man! Of course, that “era” in Marvel Universe Time could only realistically be a year or two ago.

“Man, things are so different here in the Future. Back in my day, computers were so big you had to carry them in a briefcase!”

Quite possibly the best comic of all time.

Thank you!

I was a tad disappointed when Wade started feuding with Norman in his new book, yet this issue was never brought up. I thought for sure we’d get some more hair gags.

The comment on the Osborn hair was truly hysterical. I have always thought that the famous Osborn hair was derived from the actor Joseph Cotten

I only recently learned of this book’s existence. I wish I could afford a copy.
You know, the Sandman has that hair too, but I’ve never seen anyone make jokes about it with him. They only seem to do it with Osborns.
I wonder why nobody seemed to notice how strange Peter was acting (except Anna, briefly). I guess they’re all used to him acting strangely for no reason– always running away for no apparent reason, coming back with excuses that make little sense, that sort of thing.
I’m amazed that Deadpool was rational enough to keep up the masquerade for so long without going berserk or anything.

@Mary, this was a different Deadpool than the one that’s shown up since this volume. In v3 Wade was kind of nutty but still a professional. True he’d crack wise and do some crazy stuff (sheep cannon???) but he wasn’t the caricature he is now.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

February 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm

A big part of why no one riffs on the Sandman’s hair is that the guy only appeared a few times in Spider-Man’s comic before becoming a regular Fantastic Four enemy. Jack Kirby didn’t draw the wacky hairstyle, so the Sandman’s har was “normalized” by him and later artists.

The Osborns barely ever appeared outside Spider-Man’s book in the Silver Age. Moreimportantly, John Romita drew their hair the way Ditko did. Because of this that model for “Osborn hair” stuck for Norman and Harry only.

By the time they started showing up in books drawn by different people, it was practially mandatory to draw their hair that way. And now it’s often lampshaded for a quick gag even in more “serious” stories than the one in this (or any) issue of Deadpool.

I don’t see why people keep maintaining that there’s no such thing as “Osborne hair” in real life. Ditko stylized it a tad, but I completely see what he meant; some people with curly red hair will totally have it go into sort of row things when cut short. There was at least one guy in my high school who had it.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

February 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm

As someone mentioned above, actor Joseph Cotten has the same hair. That said, Ditko’s stylization of it is one of those things that’s much more noticeable in art styles that aren’t Ditkoesque at all.

When Mike Deodato, Jr. draws Norman, for example, the combination of Norman’s Tommy Lee Jones face and the Ditko-style short curly hair looks rather odd, especially since other characters have curly hair that’s not drawn using Ditko’s hatching technique.

Ditko gives a slightly abstract look to everything he draws, but the Osborns get quasi-abstracted designs even in entirely different art styles.

My high school vice-principal had Osborne hair – so Norman Osborne as a petty tyrant makes perfect sense to me!

I’m glad you decided to show more pages than you did back in your cool comic book moments. A few panels weren’t enough to show how great this issue is. Joe Kelly is hands down the best Deadpool writer (although, Cable and Deadpool was a great series once Cable died, all the guest appearances were great!). I can’t wait for Deadpool Classic vol. 4

Didn’t Byrne use their similar hair to say that Norman & the Sandman were related in his Chapter One stuff? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

I think a big part of why Osborn hair is mocked more than Sandman hair is that the father and son have matching hair. For Sandman it’s isolated. It’s most likely a choice. But the assumption is that it’s somehow natural for the Osborns.

I’ve thought writers have been making too big a deal about the hair in recent years. It looked normal enough with Ditko, and with Romita as well. It’s only when it doesn’t fit with the artist’s usual style that it looks very strange. And I don’t remember it ever being commented upon in a story until the late ’80s. (The first time I noticed anyone say anything about the hair in a story was in a Michelinie/McFarlane issue, which seemed odd because a lot of McFarlane characters had strange hair.)
And I have seen real-life hair that wasn’t too different from the Osborn-type. Curly hair often looks strange when it’s very short.

I have been looking at photos of Joseph Cotten from the 1940s and 50s, and I am increasingly convinced that Ditko used him as a physical template for Norman Osborn. I am curious to see if anyone else sees a resemblance. Of course, one must bear in mind Ditko’s cartoony style.

Another possible source of physical reference, in this case for Peter Parker, is Robert Walker, jr. (probably best known to more recent audiences as the eponymous Charlie in the Star Trek episode CHARLIE X). Of course, a major problem with this theory is that, unlike Joseph Cotten, Walker did not achieve a starring role until 1964′s Ensign Pulver, and Peter Parker debuted in 1962. Walker’s credits prior to 1964 are confined to guest starring roles in episodic televion (E.g., Route 66, The Naked City, etc.). Further complicating matters is the fact that I seem to recall reading that physical prototypes for Peter appeared in Ditko’s art prior to 1962. Still, I find Walker’s resemblane to the Ditko Peter Parker to be quite striking. Any thoughts?

A more solid match-up involves Dr. Strange and Vincent Price.Simply compare Ditko’s early, rather Eurasian take on Strange with the way that Ditko drew Strange for the bulk of his time on the book. I would argue that Strange becomes increasingly similar to Price in looks as time wears on. For that matter, take a look at Vincent Price’s 1963 film The Raven and compare the animated effects in the wizard’s duel with Karloff to the “light show” style magical effects that Ditko began to employ for Dr. Strange. I think that there is a strong case to be made for Ditko being influenced not only by Price’s physiognomy but also by the film’s special effects as well.

I always thought that Romita’s Peter Parker looked like John Saxon.

And his Norman Osborne looked like Kenneth Tobey.

Yes, I’m just that old.

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The comment about the Osborn Hair was hysterical!

That’s probably the best comic Joe Kelly ever wrote. Not saying much, I know, but it’s actually a smart story and a great read. Possibly the single comic that made Deadpool the Marvel mainstay it is today!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

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