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Random Thoughts! (March 16, 2010)

Random Thought! A special edition of random thoughts this week, people! It’s random thoughts time! Get excited!

Link Thought! Quickie Reviews (Mar 10 2010) (The Unwritten makes a small comeback!). Is it Just Children? (or is it okay to kill everyone?). High Road/Low Road on Chris Jericho/Edge at WrestleMania (I really love this, but still have to argue against it… dammit). Wrestling 4Rs featuring my review of the first edition of TNA Impact in its new semi-live Monday night timespot (spoiler: I thought it was shit). Fuck Me? (people who comment on wrestling sites are much funnier than those who comment on comics sites). Wrestler of the Week (only two weeks left…). Art Discussion Month 2010 (it passes the halfway mark today… I’m mostly done! Also, check out Frank Teran’s comment in my discussion of the Hellblazer issue he drew… it’s all gossipy and fun!). The Splash Page Podcast Episode 8.1 (Tim swears, but I had to bleep it out to keep the podcast clean). The Splash Page Podcast Episode 8.2 (I swear, but I had to bleep it out to keep the podcast clean). An interview with Keith Champagne on WWE Heroes (yes, it’s on this blog, but people miss things…).

Random Thought! I’m oddly comforted by the thought that, if I lived in Russia, comics would be reviewing me… (Taken from my Twitter feed on Sunday.)

Random Thought! I have no interest in that Young Allies book beyond how awesome the name Bastards of Evil is. That’s not just a good bad guy team name, it’s a Joe Casey-esque bad guy team name, and no one does supervillains who revel in their villainy as well as Casey these days, so nicely done, Mr. McKeever.

Random Thought! Because it gives me focus, the rest of the column will be my “I’ds of March” to follow-up on Brian’s annual posting. Sure, that was yesterday, but I don’t want to step on his toes, let him do his thing and I’ll keep mine in this column. If I remember next year, the 15th will be on a Tuesday and mine will actually go up on the day. I did this previously, on my blog, two years ago. (Linking to that so I won’t repeat myself…)

I’d… have ended Secret Invasion with Noh-Varr helping to turn the tide against the Skrulls and, then, turning on the heroes, because he intends to take over the planet himself and remake it in Hala’s image. Not taking over then, Norman Osborn could still be in charge and Dark Reign happens mostly as planned, but Noh-Varr is set up as a threat, someone who isn’t working for the same goals as anyone.

I’d… have brought Steve Rogers back in Captain America as a regular arc with Butch Guice as the artist, kicking off his run on the book. Not necessarily as smart a sales/business move, but I think it would have worked artistically better.

I’d… have not marketed Joe Casey’s tenure on Superman/Batman as a follow-up to “Our Worlds at War” and would have also let people know that was writing the book when the first issue came out in October and made it clear what was going on.

I’d… hire Jim Starlin to take over one of the Marvel cosmic books. With Thanos coming back, all we need is Starlin. It would lighten the load for Abnett and Lanning a bit and also give the line a little bit more diversity in writing. I’ve enjoyed the unified vision, but, come on, DnA and Starlin writing those characters? That would be amazing.

I’d… have hired J.M. DeMatteis to write Spider-Man: The Clone Saga. Or, at least, a back-up strip to give the series a little more flavour and breathing room. I’d have also included some extra material like one-page interviews on the story throughout the series. Small things to make it a better experience.

I’d… have not made Wednesday Comics exclusively 12-part serialised stories. Do some one-offs and short serials, mix things up a bit, play with the newspaper format.

I’d… have released the “Final Crisis Aftermath” book in a different manner, maybe not all at the same time nor with such similar titles. They all sort of blended together that way when they might have done better by making their differences more obvious and trying to target each book’s specific audience more directly.

I’d… release Paul Jenkins’s Hellblazer run in trades. Plus, I do a trade or two of the remaining uncollected issues from that series. The one- and two-parters that popped up over the years.

I’d… have hired almost any other artist than Philip Tan for the second Batman & Robin arc. That arc sticks out like a sore thumb and DC could have found someone much better suited to Morrison’s writing — and someone whose work doesn’t look ten times worse in the middle of Frank Quitely- and Cameron Stewart-drawn arcs.

I’d… have hounded Chip Zdarsky to contribute to Strange Tales… because he’s great.

I’d… hire Paul Cornell and Leonard Kirk to do a second Dark X-Men mini-series later in 2010 to explore what happens to the characters without Norman Osborn in charge. That could be very interesting and act as a nice sequel to the recently-concluded mini.

I’d… have hired a writer with sensibilities much more in common with Grant Morrison than Keith Giffen to write The Authority: The Lost Year. A cool idea for a book that went wrong by hiring the wrong writer to do it. That needed someone much more in tune with the way Morrison writes.

I’d… have chosen more Spider-Woman over the motion comics animated thing.

I’d… have made those Dark Reign: The List issues actually… you know… mean something…? Like, made them count for something lasting and important within the “Dark Reign” story rather than just coming out and… not really doing much of anything.

I’d… hound and pester Craig Ferguson until he agrees to write an Aquaman comic, dammit!

Random Thought! That was fun.

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Random Comments! Your comments. My replies. Rather obvious. Trying something new by replying to portions of comments directly. If it’s confusing or people don’t like it, let me know.

Bill Reed said: People actually watched Corner Gas? Really? Did they enjoy it? Does one have to be Canadian to enjoy it? Some station or another here in God’s United States aired it for a bit there, and I stumbled upon it one day… it’s like some kind of terrifying black hole of quality.

Corner Gas is a decent, middle-of-the-road sitcom. It only produces a couple of chuckles in an episode, but gets the odd big laugh. Or, it did when it was on. I don’t think it’s a uniquely Canadian thing, but who knows with you Americans?

I’m tired of this shtick already. Deadpool isn’t that overexposed. I proved it with maths. Still, he does have a surprising amount of solo titles, more than I think the market will be able to support. In a year’s time, he’ll probably be back to one, unless the movie comes out.

Just because other characters appear in more books, doesn’t mean Deadpool isn’t overexposed. Something like that is relative to the character and how much exposure is too much. Spider-Man and Batman appear in more books? Fine, but we’re also used to them appearing in a lot of books. There’s a longtime demand for them to appear in numerous books. As of yet, there’s an apparent shortterm demand for Deadpool that could easily turn against the character like happened to Punisher and Ghost Rider. Your math, while interesting, doesn’t tell the whole story.

CW said: The whole ‘Deadpool overexposure’ thing is really weird for me. Not because I hate the character, or I’m offended by the character being rammed down my throat, but I guess I’m from the time when Joe Kelly and Ed McGuness couldn’t buy readers for his solo series. I grew up with Deadpool as a third-rate Wolverine knock-off (violent guy with an attitude) fighting second-rate characters (Black Tom?) from a second rate X-book (Leifeld-era X-Force, you suck!). That Joe Kelly was able to take the character and make something truely moving and halarious is nothing short of miraculous. The book was constantly fighting cancelation, and although it never really recovered after McGuness left the book, it was still one of the best books Marvel was publishing at the time.

Everything being published today featuring the character is a pale shadow of what was done in that first series. I don’t believe that later work of any creator or of any character can diminish the original work, but what’s being published as Deadpool comics these days makes me almost say he’s been ruined. As it is, I see those books as being the one shining gem in a big pile of turd. And it makes me realize just how funny and vindictive the fates must be to make *now* be when Deadpool is at his most popular among the hoi poi. It’s almost like something… Deadpool would come up with.

Agreed. Having read Deadpool books for reviewing purposes at CBR, I can vouch for the lack of funny. They’re cute. There’s maybe one funny moment per issue. Then again, humour is relative, so maybe lots of people are finding the current books very funny. I did enjoy Deadpool’s recent guest-spot in Amazing Spider-Man by Joe Kelly and Eric Canete. That was great.

Mecha-Shiva said: Frisky Dingo, man… what a great show. I ran into Adam Reed at my mechanic’s (I had no idea what he looked like, but he started talking to someone at the counter and I’m wondering why this guy sounds like Xander Crews then he said his name and it made sense) but lacked the balls to say hello or anything. I don’t understand why Frisky Dingo (or the all-too-brief Xtacles spinoff) never got the same kind of attention as the Venture Bros. Not to take anything away from the Venture Bros., which is great, but… other than the crappy animation, I see nothing not to like about Frisky Dingo. Ka-kow.

I can understand why: The Venture Bros. do self-contained episodes. Frisky Dingo opted for episodes that told one big story, much like a comics storyarc written for the trade. That doesn’t make it less good, it just makes it harder for people to get into it. That, and The Venture Bros. is better. Sorry.

Mario said: People who don’t like Deadpool or constantly whine about his overexposure are simply in denial of their desire to read a comic that will have no “serious” long term effect. Deadpool comics are all about enjoyment (in the best and worse ways possible).

No, I’m all for those books. I’ve read recent Deadpool books and they’re just not good. Not funny or entertaining.

Jason Arron’s Wolvering doesn’t suck.

No, Jason Aaron’s Wolverine book doesn’t suck. That’s what made me realise that I just don’t care for the character. I’d read an issue here and there and enjoy what I’ve read, and, yet, I felt no desire to read another issue.

FunkyGreenJerusalem said: That’s because it’s by an Australian director Gregor Jordan, who makes the most empty and souless films of all time. He won a big short film competition in Australia with a clever short… although apparently it’s VERY similar to another short, or scene from an old film. He then made a crime film which wouldn’t have gone anywhere, except it had Bryan Brown swearing a lot, and was the breakthrough (in Australia, which led to US work) of Heath Ledger. That got him signed up to a five picture film, and it’s been a slow and steady output of dribble ever since. (I know his career because I keep thinking every film will be his last, and am just shocked at watching his mediocrity continue to live). Having seen The Informers the other week, don’t stress Chad, just about every character in it will die of AIDS soon after the credits. (Although I think we’re supposed to ignore that by combining the stories, and making them all happen at once, nearly every character had, presumably, unprotected sex with someone who had slept with another character, all leading back to the girl who dies of AIDS at the end… AIDS of course being added in, as it’s not in the novel, to give the film some kind of ending).

I haven’t read the collection in a while, but, yeah, I don’t remember AIDS being in any of the stories. Hell, the girl doesn’t even die necessarily in the book. Thanks for the background info. From what I read, the director really fucked with the script and cut it down considerably.

I loved when that book hinted that Xavier was in their heads and manipulating the X-Men the whole time. That never went anywhere.

That was very frustrating. Xavier was perfectly happy to alter Magneto’s memories and mind, but wouldn’t act on a larger scale to solve the problems with mutants and humanity — or, at least, influence the minds of the right people to move things along. Again, small-scale, status quo-feeding bullshit.

So you’re praising Ellis for writing a nice outline of a story, and then publishing it as a story? From memory, the book has a scene where the main characters – all of whom have nothing original or distinguishing about them – are standing in a warehouse. The police are intercut with the heroes talking, surrounding a warehouse, and they kick down the door… but they have the wrong warehouse. That’s Chuck Austen level of writing.

No, Ellis wrote a conclusion to his story, but part of it was introducing ideas that could be more fully explored in the future. And that scene happened, but it, you know, made sense in context and wasn’t bad. But, I’m not going to change your mind.

Willie Everstop said: Random Thought! What the hell is up with comic characters leaving the word what out of the phrase “What the hell” lately? Is it a creator quirk or just some weird way to avoid censorship? It always seems out of place to me.

I say ‘the hell?’ or ‘the fuck?’ Just a variation on the phrase that some people use.

TimCallahan said: Hey, I was an English major and I read ALL the assigned books. (Problem was: I usually didn’t read them until the day before the final, and Chaucer isn’t really all that great when you read him like that. He may not be great for other reasons — the jury is still out on that.)

I did that with Moby-Dick since it was the one book in my American lit class in undergrad that we had to discuss in an essay on the final exam. By the halfway mark, I was skipping the chapters on whales, sticking to the narrative. Good times.

Rome said: BTW, did you like the new Iron Man 2 trailer? Any thoughts on the Suitcase Armor?

Looks decent. No real thoughts or judgements since the first movie was good enough to earn the sequel a viewing. So, I’m trying not to care too much, preferring to leave my thoughts until I see the finished product with everything in its proper context.

Jack Norris said: As soon as the words “hero’s journey” pop up in an argument, I automatically feel less obligated to read on in a respectful manner. It’s become the fans & critics (oh, and let’s not forget some creators as well) version of “because, uh… because Jesus, God and the Bible, that’s why!” in the way that it’s just an empty appeal to authority.

Agreed. But, the endpoint of Peter’s progression into adulthood is leaving Spider-Man behind and learning about real responsibility. Just the way it is.

Mike Loughlin said: My problem with JMS’ better comics (Midnight Nation, Rising Stars, Supreme Power) is that he spent an awful lot of time on set-up, and very little on delivery. I read all 18 issues of Supreme Power, but got the impression that the story JMS wanted to tell would have taken at least 50 more. Rising Stars started out great (although the art was sub-par), but ended limply. Midnight Nation is a self-contained story, at least, but they seemed to spend most of the issues lurching toward a rather predictable conclusion (I liked it, despite its flaws). I think JMS is good at world-building, but falters when it comes to structuring.

Yeah, that’s why Babylon 5 was so great: he had the room to set up plots and characters and world build without it cutting short the eventual payoffs. Comics are limited by page-count and the speed at which they come out and JMS seems to need more room to work. He hasn’t adapted to the medium as much as he should have by this point.

That’s it. Thanks for reading. Later.

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sorry no thanks on the Starlin “I’d” keep him as far away as you can, he’s like Claremont, to be admired and respected for what he did in his prime. But don’t give him work that actually affects anything, he’s way past his prime.

plus with Nova and GotG going on hiatus during The Thanos Imperative, I’d really rather have DnA handling the one cosmic book on the shelves.

If they need to bring someone in, they should do something to pry Keith Giffen out from DC’s clutches, his work with Annihilation and the Conquest Star-Lord mini were the best things I’ve ever read from him.

Yeah, I’m with Thomas on this one. I certainly enjoyed Starlin’s cosmic Marvel work in the past, but his more recent Death of the New Gods, Strange Adventures and Hawkman Special for DC have all been train wrecks.

They should have gotten Kieron Gillen to finish Morrison’s Authority. I think that would have yielded interesting results.

Also, Carrier versus Stiletto space battles! You know you want that.

This is the first time I read your “comments on the comments” section of Random Thoughts … and my comment was commented on! Has this happened before? I’ve got a feeling i’ll be reading them from now on.

I agree they should slap a bunch of one-shot and two part Hellblazer comics into trades. Not so much because i’m a big Hellblazer fan but because I believe that if you sent out to put some of the series in trade you better damn put the whole thing in trade. Wasteland is a good example. You want to skip some one-shot issues as to not interfere with the main story? No problem. You want to collect them all in a trade of their own (the latest trade)? Why thank you Oni Press, thank you.

Random Thought! I have no interest in that Young Allies book beyond how awesome the name Bastards of Evil is. That’s not just a good bad guy team name, it’s a Joe Casey-esque bad guy team name, and no one does supervillains who revel in their villainy as well as Casey these days, so nicely done, Mr. McKeever.

I’d… be more inclined to read the series if it was called “Bastards of Evil,” but I’m such an easy mark for teen teams that I’ll probably give the book a shot anyway. (If I only have the funds to try it or Avengers Academy, though, the latter will likely win out.)

I’d… have not marketed Joe Casey’s tenure on Superman/Batman as a follow-up to “Our Worlds at War” and would have also let people know that was writing the book when the first issue came out in October and made it clear what was going on.

I’d… have hired Casey as the full-time writer on that book. Rotating the creative team every arc seems like a great way not to gain traction in the marketplace, and the series is already an afterthought.

I’d… have hired almost any other artist than Philip Tan for the second Batman & Robin arc. That arc sticks out like a sore thumb and DC could have found someone much better suited to Morrison’s writing — and someone whose work doesn’t look ten times worse in the middle of Frank Quitely- and Cameron Stewart-drawn arcs.

I’d… have hounded Chip Zdarsky to contribute to Strange Tales… because he’s great.

I’d… combine those thoughts. I’d… have hired Zdarsky to draw the second Batman & Robin arc. His Flamingo would’ve been magnificent.

I’d… hire Paul Cornell and Leonard Kirk to do a second Dark X-Men mini-series later in 2010 to explore what happens to the characters without Norman Osborn in charge. That could be very interesting and act as a nice sequel to the recently-concluded mini.

I’d… read that. In fact, I’d… read anything by Cornell and Kirk at this point.

I’d… have hired a writer with sensibilities much more in common with Grant Morrison than Keith Giffen to write The Authority: The Lost Year. A cool idea for a book that went wrong by hiring the wrong writer to do it. That needed someone much more in tune with the way Morrison writes.

I’d… have to agree. Giffen’s obviously doing his own thing with the premise and has said as much, but his work doesn’t align with Morrison’s at all. I’d… have also tapped pretty much the entire Global Frequency stable of artists to draw the title.

I’d… have made those Dark Reign: The List issues actually… you know… mean something…? Like, made them count for something lasting and important within the “Dark Reign” story rather than just coming out and… not really doing much of anything.

I’d… like to point out that Frank Castle getting chopped to pieces was pretty integral to the current arc in his series. Otherwise, I’m with you.

I’d release a second Claremont/Byrne era Uncanny X-Men Omnibus. I mean really ‘the Dark Phoenix’ storyline hasn’t been omnibused?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

March 16, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Hell, the girl doesn’t even die necessarily in the book.

The kidnapped child does though.

What was that story even doing in the film?
It didn’t relate to any other story, by having all stories happen at once, it didn’t even fit thematically as part of the descent into horror, and by having the child get let go, you had a redemption story in the middle of the downward spiral.

Thanks for the background info. From what I read, the director really fucked with the script and cut it down considerably.

He’s a hack.

That was very frustrating. Xavier was perfectly happy to alter Magneto’s memories and mind, but wouldn’t act on a larger scale to solve the problems with mutants and humanity — or, at least, influence the minds of the right people to move things along. Again, small-scale, status quo-feeding bullshit.

I was more rooting for an Xavier acting out of best intentions, but being just as much of a monster – get them out of his shadow right from the start.
He wipes a memory from Iceman, and in a couple of issues the other x-men whisper about ‘how do we know he isn’t manipulating us’, and then it just disappears, even before Millar left.

And that scene happened, but it, you know, made sense in context and wasn’t bad.

It was a cheap trick to add tension in a scene where there wouldn’t have been any, and was bad.

Obviously we totally disagree on this book, but I can’t see how you feel a cheap trick is justified just because of who wrote it – I can’t imagine you’d put up with it from another writer.

Personally, I wish he’d stop with superheroes.
After Stormwatch, then Planetary and Authority, he’d covered all bases with those three series.
Something like Nextwave, which was just taking the mickey is fine, but other than that, he’s said all he has to say.
For someone who is such an innovator, it feels rather backwards.

I think JMS is good at world-building, but falters when it comes to structuring.

Yeah, that’s why Babylon 5 was so great: he had the room to set up plots and characters and world build without it cutting short the eventual payoffs. Comics are limited by page-count and the speed at which they come out and JMS seems to need more room to work. He hasn’t adapted to the medium as much as he should have by this point.

Wow. This is ABSOLUTELY correct. It’s even true of B5 to some degree (There, it’s largely because the renewal for season 5 came REALLY late, forcing him to finish off most of the major plotlines at the end of season 4, thereby leaving us with a 22-episode long epilogue).

FunkyGreenJerusalem

March 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Random Thought: I read Chad’s review of ‘Breaking In To Marvel’ and then looked at some of the preview pages. That Chris Yost and Paul Davidson X-men story starts two pages early – what happened to opening stories with a bang… especially short stories?
I think anthologies don’t do as well because not enough writers are studying the work of Archie Goodwin.
Editors should make the talent read/study/deconstuct/learn from Goodwin and Simonson’s Manhunter before giving them work on a short story.

I’d… have released the “Final Crisis Aftermath” book in a different manner, maybe not all at the same time nor with such similar title

I’d have made sure that Matthew Sturges had a story in mind before he started writing Run.

A terrible story, with an 80′s cartoon show style moral at the end, and the pacing was all over the shop.

Not too mention, that thanks to the odd choice to have the time appear at the start of every new scene, Green Lantern and Firestom apparently spent an entire night and day standing by the side of the road waiting for the authorities after taking down Clayface.

I’d… release Paul Jenkins’s Hellblazer run in trades. Plus, I do a trade or two of the remaining uncollected issues from that series. The one- and two-parters that popped up over the years.

Jenkins is fine, but you probably don’t want the one and two parters as much as you think you do.
Not the greatest ever.

Quick response because it occurs to me: shouldn’t anthologies have better stories at this point? Marvel, in particular, is doing a lot of anthology books at this point. Shouldn’t they be improving?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

March 16, 2010 at 7:31 pm

Quick response because it occurs to me: shouldn’t anthologies have better stories at this point? Marvel, in particular, is doing a lot of anthology books at this point. Shouldn’t they be improving?

I sure think so, especially as Marvel keeps lumping them in with Uncanny X-Men trades – none of the writers of those stories endeared themselves to me.
The stories weren’t that strong, and next to Fraction’s writing, seemed like amateur hour.

I was honestly shocked, even after having read your synopsis, that the Yost story didn’t open with the X-men all fighting each other – start with a bang!
That said, Yost seems to be the go to guy for stories about X-Men dealing with lost loved one’s – he wrote a story about the x-men trying to get Colossus over the death of Kitty Pryde as well.

when will you return to the Reread Reviews? The last one was Thor and that was lmost four months ago, i believe.

“I grew up with Deadpool as a third-rate Wolverine knock-off (violent guy with an attitude) fighting second-rate characters (Black Tom?) from a second rate X-book (Leifeld-era X-Force, you suck!).”

Heh, me too.

Buuuut…

Am I the only one that’s ever baffled by the clucking of tongues at “Rob Liefeld’s X-Force”? I mean, the guy didn’t even last the first full year. And if you go back to those issues, it’s pretty funny how much Fabian Nicieza was struggling to tell a coherent story in spite of the art – which, pretty much once Liefeld left (around issue 9!), it became Nicieza’s book in full, and he used it to tell thematically interesting stories rich in character development – right up to “Age of Apocalypse,” where he was booted in favor of Jeph Loeb and all the characters started behaving as though the last four years of stories had never happened.

This is why I always try (in vain) to defend Cable against accusations of being nothing but a Liefeld cliche – with the big guns and the tiny head and all. Yes, his penchant for ridiculousness is pretty much tied forever with Cable’s look (the scar, the flashy eye and the cyborg arm), but his character and character-arc – under Nicieza, again, though Tischman’s “Soldier X” run still fit in – has always been pretty consistent.

I dunno, I just feel like if people came at X-Force as Nicieza’s book, rather than Liefeld’s, they might see something a little different.

Also I can’t BELIEVE DC hasn’t been more aggressive in collecting the short Hellblazer stories as some kind of omnibus. It’s a blue chip character for Vertigo, you’d think they’d want to get out as much product as possible.

Jeff, I hated Cable for those reasons you named, until reading Nicieza’s Cable and Deadpool run (well, the first several trades of it, anyways). The problem that series though, is that Deadpool sucked in it. I think the last time anyone was able to do anything severely funny with ‘Pool was when Gail Simone had the reins, all the way through to her Agent X run that was editorially derailed, then restored briefly before cancellation.

just a quick hit and run comment, you know people who have watched corner gas and not liked it? it’s basicallly seinfield/friends except actually funny. (ok it’s a step behind friends, but unlike seinfield the cast is actuallly composed of likeable people) Corner Gas is a terrific series mind you this comment is coming from someone that has never laughed at two and a half men.

deadpool is massively overexposed, him appearing in more than one title per three months is the definition of overexposed…..in ten years, people will look at the deadpool phenomenon in the same way that we now look at the shoulder pads concept of the early 90′s. Deadpool is, and has always been designed as a joke character and he’ll be as relavent to future stories as Lobo has been to the DC universe over the past 5+ years.

there are people on this planet that think frisky dingo is worth watching??? heck I expect these are the same people that think that the Punisher is a hero….. Frisky Dingo is a 90 minute serial and that is it, anything more is just a joke. It’s bad enough that Aqua Teen has existed, but Frisky Dingo is the straw that breaks the camels back, we’ve seen this same juvenile humor so many times, and at such a better level that these people that still get a job should apologize for taking money from anyone with a true sense of humor

Capt usa(jim)

I have one word for you

BOOSH!

I read Joe Kelly’s Deadpool last year, for the first time. It kinda sucked. Maybe because I read it so many years after it was initially published or maybe it had been built up in my head as the funniest thing ever.
Give me Gail Simones run any day.

Agreed. But, the endpoint of Peter’s progression into adulthood is leaving Spider-Man behind and learning about real responsibility. Just the way it is.

What does this mean, “real responsibility?” Kids? Bills? A marriage and a mortgage? Because just about any schlub can do manage that level of responsibility.

The level of responsibility Peter Parker currently undertakes by protecting every last citizen he possibly can whenever he can is way more “real” than that. The endpoint of Peter’s progression into adulthood can be a bunch of things. He could remain am adult Spider-Man and become the head of a school for the next generation of teen heroes like Initiative/Avengers Academy. He could remain an adult Spider-Man and eventually become leader of the Avengers.

Actually you have it wrong. The movie that you talk about by Gregor Jordan “Two Hands” -Heath ledger actually got that role AFTER coming to the states. He had already done Roar for Fox TV. He then was called back to Australia. He told this many times in interviews, “he had to come to the USA to get work back home” Gregor Jordan is very talented and his movies are the best. Just because you don’t like them, you don’t get to bash him.

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I disagree that the List issues meant nothing. They meant nothing to the main Dark Reign story, but the ones I read were all important to the ongoing they were attached to and some cool stories to boot.

T you are absolutely correct about Peter Parker. Remember he feels the responsibility stemming from Uncle Ben’s death to help ANYONE in need and do the right thing always. To forget about that as yo grow up is really unrealistic Chad. Again this is why I could read about an adult Peter Parker instead of the childish moron every new writer feels the need to push on the comics populace.

As far as X-Force goes, I loved the Nicenza / Capullo run the the best in which the team grew up in the company of and around Cable’s disappearances. Memorable moment: right after X-ecutioner’s Song where his team was locked up for most of the event (without cause even when after the “adults” knew the truth), Sam telling off the arrogant prick duo of Cyclops and Professor X.

Venture Bros blows Frisky Dingo out of the water…..

I could see Starlin coming back and dig it….as long as it doesn’t interfere with DnA’s universe building. But you all know that Marvel will f’ up DnA’a plans soon enough…

The thing about Spider-Man’s sense of “responsibility” is that it borders on narcissistic. He helps people because he’ll feel bad if his inaction leads to tragedy. It’s more about his own guilt than genuine altruism. Helping people is a byproduct of his own attempts to assuage his guilt. This “responsibility” is actually an inflated sense of self-importance. He’s the only guy who can stop Electro or Mysterio, despite there being a city full of superheroes. As a result, he takes responsibility for everyone else, but pretty much let’s his personal life suffer for it. If he’d actually had spent more time as Peter Parker, he might have been in a better position to recognize the signs of Harry’s drug addiction when they were roommates.

Corner Gas was awesome. It wasn’t that laugh out loud funny, no. It definitely had its moments and never had a point where I felt it jumped the shark or had any of those uncomfortable moments that sitcoms tend to sneak in. Really, since it wasn’t THAT funny, even though there was some funny stuff, I don’t know why I liked it as much as I did. I was just strangely fascinated by it.

I’m American, btw, and first caught it on WGN. Then a local station.

As a result, he takes responsibility for everyone else, but pretty much let’s his personal life suffer for it. If he’d actually had spent more time as Peter Parker, he might have been in a better position to recognize the signs of Harry’s drug addiction when they were roommates.

Okay, so he failed to protect one drug addict because he spends most of his time indirectly saving hundreds or thousands from the effects of drugs by conducting a war on organized crime and being a thorn in the side of crime bosses like the Kingpin and the Maggia. That somehow adds up to shirking “real” responsibility? I’d say in the grand scheme of things, his contributions far outweigh his failures and the responsibilities he undertakes far outweigh the responsibilities he fails in. It’s not like anyone else in Harry’s life who wasn’t out policing the city did any better in spotting Harry’s addiction in time. Despite his Spider-Man responsibilities it was still Peter who did the most to help Harry.

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