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A Year of Cool Comics – Day 143

Here is the latest in our year-long look at one cool comic (whether it be a self-contained work, an ongoing comic or a run on a long-running title that featured multiple creative teams on it over the years) a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Today we take a look at a storyline from the Greatest Roger Stern Stories Ever Told list where the Avengers get into the middle of a conflict between Kang…s?


Avengers #267-269, written by Roger Stern and drawn by John Buscema and Tom Palmer, show a conflict between a society of Kangs, who have sprung up as a result of Mark Gruenwald’s theory on Marvel time-travel, that every time you travel in time, you create an alternate reality. So now there are a bunch of alternate reality Kangs running around.

Stern introduces us to this idea in a brilliant opening in Avengers #267, drawn amazingly by Buscema and Palmer…

The Avengers are split into two groups, as half the team is abducted into limbo (the land beyond time), where they face off against other creatures who had been sent to limbo – the Dire Wraiths!!

Meanwhile, the three teammates left home have to make the impossible seem, well, possible, as they figure out a way to access limbo themselves…

I love the mix of dramatic plot development along with the subplot stuff (people protesting Namor becoming an Avenger) and the character moments. Stern really did a nice job developing the personalities of the characters he was given steward of, especially his own creation, Captain Marvel. He assimilated her into the title very well.

The finale of the arc involves even more twists and turns (time travel will do that to you), but it all together it was a smart, complex tale that allowed for some good action sequences and an intriguing new premise for Kang.


A great story – and one of the few Stern Avengers tales traded in Kang: Time & Again.

Unfortunately from this we then get the scenario with all the Alien Kags (Simonsons responsibility?) which doesn’t work nearly as well.

#267 was the first current issue of Avengers I ever bought. Before that I had just picked up random back issues here and there. So this storyline has always held a soft spot for me. Gotta admit I was initially pretty confused seeing Storm and Colosus as Avengers, since they had never been associated with the team in any of the back issues I had.

So Storm was an Avenger before Marvel Adventures, huh?

I’d only read the last chapter of this story, so I’ve never seen these parts before. I never knew Immortus’s Limbo was the same as Rom’s. (But Illyana’s Limbo is a different realm, right?)

So is Bendis completely ignoring all the time-travel rules explained in this story?

A great story. A few random comments:

1.Palmer: Truly a god among inkers. Combine with Buscema breakdowns, and you have some fabulous art.

2. Characterization: Stern’s grip on each hero’s personality is a wonder to behold (E.g., Namor’s unease over Hercules’ greater strength, Monica’s reaction to the Darkforce, Hercule’s boastful certainty of his own power, etc.).

3. Compressed storyline: Stern , in a mere three issues,provides enough plot for two years’ worth of modern comics.

Mary, I always thought all the various Limbo’s were technically the same place, just different areas of that Limbo. I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression that Illyana’s Limbo was still the one pictured here.

Mary Warner and Jazzbo, according to the Wikipedia article (Yeah, I know) the Limbo of Illyanna is not the Limbo of Immortus and the Dire Wraiths. It is a separate but similar realm formally called the “Otherplace” (not to be confused with the “Otherworld”).

Philip Aryes, you offend me! Simonson’s league of Kangs was awesome! But to each his own. I will admit it was confusing, yet ultimately rewarding.

Mary, Storm was ‘really’ an Avenger. This sequence with her and Collossus as members was the clue that this wasn’t ‘our’ timeline.

Willie Everstop

May 25, 2010 at 1:33 pm

“So is Bendis completely ignoring all the time-travel rules explained in this story?”

I like to think that Iron Man is just BSing the team to get back his cosmic silly putty. Most of the Avengers probably wouldn’t understand Tony’s in-depth explanation so he gave them a simple Star Trek analogy.

In the end it will probably sound something like this:
Is that..?
No way
Dr Doom’s Time Machine
Dr Doom?
Dr Doom
I know, right
Man I hate time travel.

Yeah I was surprised to see Colossus as an Avenger.. until I kept reading. This looks amazingly enjoyable.

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