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A Year of Cool Comics – Day 150

Here is the latest in our year-long look at one cool comic (whether it be a self-contained work, an ongoing comic or a run on a long-running title that featured multiple creative teams on it over the years) a day (in no particular order whatsoever)! Here‘s the archive of the moments posted so far!

Today we take a look at a very cool mini-series called Young Avengers Presents, specifically an issue spotlighting Hawkeye by Matt Fraction and Alan Davis (talk about a dream team!)…


Young Avengers Presents was a great little mini-series by Marvel designed to get SOME Young Avengers comics out there while Marvel was waiting for series creator Allan Heinberg to return to the title. So we got a six-issue mini-series written by six different writers spotlighting different characters on the team. The writing talent was striking – Ed Brubaker, Brian Reed, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Paul Cornell, Kevin Grevious and Matt Fraction.

Brubaker kicked the series off with a great issue that tied directly into his Captain America work with the Winter Soldier (not yet going by Captain America) talking with the Young Avenger the Patriot (Eli Bradley, the grandson of the “first” Captain America, the African-American Isiah Bradley)…

And Fraction finished off the series with an issue spotlighting the Young Avenger, Kate Bishop, who had taken the name Hawkeye (after flirting with the idea of calling herself Hawkingbird, as she combines the skills and look of Hawkeye and Mockingbird, who were both dead when the Young Avengers formed). In this issue (#6), she is encountered by Ronin of the New Avengers…

Once there, she discovers Ronin is…

To see how Kate ultimately reacts to this embarrassment, be sure to pick up the trade collection of Young Avengers Presents – there are other neat stories in there, too! Mitch Breitweiser did a really nice job on the art of his issue.


Leave the bow. Take the cannoli.

liked the story espically the speech Bucky was giving Elie about what america is in his opinion plus love the look on kate’s face when Hawkeye beats her.

The robin hood shot is far from impossible. I’ve done it, myself. I’ve seen it done a couple times.

” Central park carriage ninja ” totally has to be a band name.

There was a previous Captain America?

I’ve never read Young Avengers. I had it confused with Avengers Next at first, and I was trying to stick to the regular Marvel Universe. (Keep in mind that I just started buying comics again at the end of 2006, after more than a decade of not reading any. I didn’t know anything that was goin on and it took some time to figure out what was what.) Also, my money was extremely tight at the time, and I was mostly sticking to stuff I know.
I have seen some of the characters here and there (mostly Ant-Man’s daughter in Mighty Avengers), but I still don’t know anything about them.
These two stories look really good, especially the Hawkeye one.

So what has happened to this girl now that Hawkeye is Hawkeye again?

Okay, you said the second one is Alan Davis (I do love his facial expressions!), but who drew the first one?

Mary, you should definitely check out the two trades of the main Young Avengers series. They were really great.

No, Mary, there was a previous Patriot.

I think Mary is referring to Isiah Bradley.

Yeah, Mary, Marvel recently (well, five years ago or so, I think) revealed that there was a black predecessor to Steve Rogers. Basically, they tested the formula out on black soldiers first to see if it was safe for white soldiers, and Bradley was the only one who survived. He was only “Captain America” for one brief mission.

Regarding the Isaiah Bradley Chronology:

It is my understanding that Bradley’s status as the “first Captain America” only pertained to when the THE TRUTH: RED, WHITE, AND BLACK was out of continuity, as the mini showed the serum being tested on Bradley post-Pearl Harbor, and Steve Rogers (in official continuity) was Cap long before the Japanese attack. Now that the storyline is in continuity (Whatever that means these days), Bradley is regarded as having been the subject of an attempt to recreate the super-soldier serum that was lost after Steve Rogers became Cap.

Thanks, everyone.

So let’s see…. There was Isaiah Bradley and Steve Rogers (whichever was first), then the Patriot became Captain America briefly at the end of the war, right? Then there was the Commie-Smasher Cap of the 1950s. And then some time after that, Steve Rogers returned. Then later on there was John Walker, and now we have Bucky-Cap. So that makes six Captains America. DC holds no monopoly on legacies.
Are there any others? (No need to count alternative universes or future versions.)

There was at least one more Cap in there sometime before the Commie-Smasher Cap (I believe the fellow who followed the Patriot, or perhaps the fellow who preceded the Patriot).

I think that the Captain America sequence goes like this:

1. Steve Rogers: The first Cap (Unless you count his Revolutionary War ancestor, Captain Steven Rogers).

2. Isaiah Bradley: The second man to wear the uniform, although I do not think that he was ever officially called Captain America. Product of a post-Pearl Harbor attempt to recreate the Super-Soldier serum that enhanced Steve Rogers..

3. The Spirit of ’76: William Naslund (A minor WW2 costumed hero), chosen by Harry Truman to replace Steve Rogers after he went into cryogenic suspension.His Bucky was a lookalike named Fred Davis.Active from roughly the time of Steve’s disappearance to late 1946.

4. The Patriot: Jeff Mace, replaced Naslund after he was murderd in late 1946 (He died while attempting to save a young congressional candidate named John F Kennedy from being killed and replaced by an android double). He kept the Fred Davis Bucky on as his partner.After Bucky was badly wounded, he was replaced as Mace’s partner by the Golden Girl (the Betsy Ross version, not Gwenny Lou Sabuki).Mace retired in 1949.

5. The Captain America of the 1950s: Hero-worshipper of the original, he rediscovered the Super-Soldier serum in German archives. Injected himself and a young boy named Jack Monroe (the third Bucky).Active from late 1953 to roughly early 1955.

Frankly, I am not certain as to how many other people can be counted as having served as Captain America. Some notable but little known instances:

1. the Acrobat (Carl Zante); He was a villain who impersonated Cap in Strange Tales #114. The appearance is noteworthy as it precedes Cap’s revival in AVENGERS #4.Mark Waid had Steve Rogers encounter him in CAPTAIN AMERICA;SENTINEL OF LIBERTY # 11. Cap’s reaction to seeing the Acrobat is utter disbelief that anyone ever thought that this goofball was him.

2. Roscoe: Likeable lunkhead Roscoe tried to replace Cap while Steve was fighting crime as Nomad. Noteworthy for the fact that the Falcon agreed to let Roscoe be his sidekick. Sadly, Roscoe was killed by the Red Skull Appearances as Cap: CAPTAIN AMERICA #181-183.

3.The Falcon: After Cap was apparently killed while fighting the Sons of the Serpent, The Falcon took over the identity for a brief period. Appearances as Cap: CAPTAIN AMERICA:SENTINEL OF LIBERTY #8-9.

4. In STRANGE TALES # 96 a bunch of losers tried to replace Cap after he publicly retired.

5. Bob Russo: In CAPTAIN AMERICA # 178, a baseball player named Bob Russo tried to replace Cap.

6. Scar Turpin: In CAPTAIN AMERICA # 179, a motorcycle gangleader named Scar Turpin tried to replace Cap.

7. Captain Steven Rogers: Steve’s Revolutionary War ancestor. Although not called Captain America, he is depicted as wearing an outfit that looks like an 18th century version of Cap’s costume.Depicted in CAPTAIN AMERICA:SENTINEL OF LIBERTY # 6-7. In SOL # 7, Steve attempts to sketch what he imagines the outfit looked like, and General Chester Phillips uses the sketch as the basis of the Captain America costume.

Spider-Man spends his time playing video games like I spend my time travelling through time and banging golden age Hollywood actresses. Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man, and Samaritan are probably the most dedicated superhero characters ever created. It’s a full-time job for them. Peter Parker needs just enough money to survive, so he even turns his real job of fighting crime into his moneymaker, by selling the pictures.

Also, if one were to play a drinking game where you took a shot every time Luke Cage called someone “girl” instead of their name since he became an Avenger , you’d be dead of alcohol poisoning after about 3 issues.
In trying to distance themselves from his “Sweet Christmas” stereotype days by making him more “authentic”, they’ve kinda created a new stereotype.

Trajan, your encyclopedic knowledge of silver age comics never ceases to amaze me. Bravo.

I absolutly LOVE the none too subtle reference to the infamous speech by Sally Floyd in “CW:Frontline” during the Patriot/Bucky talk.
This was a great series, but I would have liked to see the Speed/Wiccan issue referenced…it had a great use of continuity and the “villian” in it was so well written.

I know it doesn’t have the history of all of Hawkeye’s best Avenger moments, but it’s still such a cool Hawkeye moment and all around a pretty good issue. Good spotlight.

I may have to go and check out the trade sometime, I remember reading the first few issues and being bored out of my school and having to force myself to finish them and not really giving a damn about them afterwards, and this is from someone who actually liked Heinberg’s Young Avengers mini when it came out.

Funny to see some continuity shoehorned into the Marvel U for once. Far as I recall, Eli calls his grandfather the FIRST Captain America in that initial Young Avengers mini, so I think that the TRUTH mini stands up.


Regarding the TRUTH miniseries and official continuity: This all depends on what one counts as official continuity. The evidence going against Bradley being the first Captain America is very strong:

1. Chronology: The TRUTH mini very clearly states that Bradley and his fellow testees were experimented on after Pearl Harbor was attacked.

2. Steve Rogers: Barring Steve Gerber’s origin tale in CA 225 (which Roger Stern explained in CA # 247 was the product of a memory implant), every in continuity account of Steve Rogers’ stint as Cap has him active well before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

3. THE MARVELS PROJECT: This Brubaker written miniseries is the most recent account of the Super-Soldier project; it, too, shows Steve Rogers being turned into Captain America well before Peal Harbor. Furthermore, Bradley is not depicted in it.

The evidence for Bradley being the first Captain America:As near as I can tell, the evidence for Bradley being first largely amounts to either the mini itself (which was originally conceived as an out of continuity tale)or to off-hand statements, and these can be very easily explained away.For example, the statement that you recall Eli making can be written off as a simple error on his part. Perhaps he is simply repeating a family story that has been embellished over the years (I know a guy who was told that his great grandfather died in WW1; he later found out that although his great grandfather had been badly wounded in the War, he actually died in 1921).

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