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Really Dumb Ideas – Cancelling Star Wars Legacy

This may or may not be a recurring bit. I guess it depends on whether I see other ideas that are SOOO bad that I don’t mind spotlighting them here.

Anyhow, canceling Star Wars Legacy.

What the heck, Lucasfilm?

I imagine this is coming from Lucasfilm, because I don’t see how Dark Horse would cancel their highest-selling Star Wars book (heck, behind Buffy the Vampire Slayer, their highest-selling comic period!).

Now, don’t get me wrong, if this ends up being a re-launch, fair enough. I believe I read somewhere that once you reach 10 volumes of trade paperbacks in a series, the sales not only drop on the later volumes, they even go down on the earlier volumes (as, I presume, people don’t want to get invested in something that is so long). So that would explain why you would want to end a series at #50.

But that would only make sense if you plan on re-launching. Seeing John Ostrander and Jan Duursema (the great creative team behind this cool comic) talk about it (like in this here CBR interview), they sure don’t sound like anyone’s approached them about a re-launch.

And that’s just really dumb.

Start with your best-selling title. Add in the fact that it is also a well-written, well-drawn title. Add in the fact that the writer and artist for the comic are happy doing the book and want to keep doing it.

If you add that all up and you come to the conclusion of “We should cancel this title” then, well, I sure do disagree with you.

44 Comments

I agree. As a financial decision it doesn’t seem like a very good idea.
It will probably be relaunched in some capacity, but in today’s market who knows if its going to stick like Legacy did.

It was also a pretty good title.

Mysterious Stranger

June 5, 2010 at 10:13 pm

When I first caught wind of this I thought it might have something to do with Ostrander’s health. But after reading that interview it sure sounds like the decision is coming from somewhere on high. I only hope that if there is a relaunch that Ostrander and Duursema are invited to participate in some capacity.

Can “Really Dumb Ideas” become a weekly thing? Because the comic book industry is unfortunately full of them.

I second Jeremy’s idea.

Brother Justin Crowe

June 5, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Jeremy’s got a good head on his shoulders and is coming from a good place, but “Really Dumb Ideas” needs to run at least two, three times a week.

You could just have a “really dumb ideas for the week of ______” as opposed to multiple posts.

funkygreenjerusalem

June 5, 2010 at 11:53 pm

I dunno, there’s dumb ideas, and there’s canceling an awesome book that’s selling well.

I dare say Lucassrts has decided to try something similar in a different medium, and doesn’t want two different products in play, or would prefer it to be something more star wars-y to be the number one book… I’m only a few volumes in, but it’s Star Wars in name only.

I agree with funkygreenjerusalem ….when something can make profit why not make it, if you cant afford to start to put it aside for the mean time..

cactusjac2000

June 6, 2010 at 1:03 am

This has been my favorite monthly for some time now, Star Wars or otherwise.

Legacy is dead. Long live Legacy.

Thank you, John and Jan.

Travis Pelkie

June 6, 2010 at 1:33 am

Well, reading the interview and the comments, it sounds like there is something lined up to “replace” the book, but unless they are being coy, Ostrander and Duursema don’t sound like they’re involved. It sounds like the cancellation of the book got announced too early (or “too early”, I’m suspicious of DH leaks after the whole Twilight thing), and they aren’t ready to announce the replacement yet.

I think I read some of the early stuff of this. Not being a big SW fan, I wasn’t too taken in, but that is a great creative team.

I got the chance to meet Ostrander back at an Ithacon, oh, mid to late 90s (98, maybe, it was probably around the time JLA 16 came out). He had some pages from Blaze of Glory, the Marvel western mini he wrote. (That came out 2000, though, so maybe it wasn’t 98 I met him). Unfortunately, I didn’t have much interesting or compelling to talk to him about. Man, I think maybe Jo Duffy and Kurt Busiek were at that show too. And there I was, just duh, I don’t know what to say. I could have at least told Ostrander I liked the Spectre 0. Jeez.

So good luck to Ostrander and Duursema, and hope they’ve got a cool project coming up.

Travis Pelkie

June 6, 2010 at 1:35 am

Oh, and the Twilight that has the search pop up in my prior post doesn’t refer to the vampire movies, stupid robot thing!

Travis Pelkie

June 6, 2010 at 1:35 am

And now it’s not there, so I sound crazy. Sorry for the triple post.

On the DH forum, the DH editor claimed that it wasn’t an order from Lucasfilm…but in a way that sounded like, to me, yeah…Lucas wants it gone.

The focus of Lucasfilm has been for the past decade all about trying to convince people that the prequel trilogy didn’t suck. The entire Clone Wars cartoon..you know, the Adventures of Space Hitler as a boy…is to show you that Anakin is a cool action hero…not a whiney brat who you don’t care if he turns evil or not.

feh

If anyone from Dark Horse happens to be reading this, let me just casually mention: a new creator-owned sci-fi book by Ostrander and Duursema, would *that* be awesome.

Tom Fitzpatrick

June 6, 2010 at 5:36 am

Cancelling Major Bummer was a dumb idea.

“On the DH forum, the DH editor claimed that it wasn’t an order from Lucasfilm…but in a way that sounded like, to me, yeah…Lucas wants it gone.”

That wouldn’t surprise me. If Dark Horse wants to be able to keep their Star Wars license, they can’t piss off the license holder.

Mysterious Stranger

June 6, 2010 at 10:01 am

The solicitation for issue 50 notes its the final issue and that came out before the official announcement. I’m really surprised no one caught on to that at the time.

The solicitation for issue 50 notes its the final issue and that came out before the official announcement. I’m really surprised no one caught on to that at the time.

I believe folks did, we were just waiting to see if “final issue” meant “final issue of Volume 1″ or just the actual final issue.

i agree canceling Legacy is a dumb idea. for if its selling well the company should let it continue and only cancel it when it no longer sells . though it could be because something else is going to replace it or maybe Lucas has finaly gotten around to plans for the characters in Legacy and did not want the comic to continue though it proably got canceled because a new replacement is in the works . that or the company got afraid of the sales it was doing and killed it .

ArrestThisMan

June 6, 2010 at 3:04 pm

@ Greg

DH is the license holder, Lucasfilm is the licensor.

I’m more in favour of comic series ending at a great climactic note than simply running and running for years on end. If they’ve reached a natural end point with Legacy #50, then I think ending it is a pretty smart move.

If they’ve reached a natural end point with Legacy #50, then I think ending it is a pretty smart move.

I would agree if that were the case, but it isn’t the case here. They just told them, “Okay, #50 is your last issue, wrap stuff up!” Ostrander and Duursema had loooots of stories left to tell in this universe.

Andrew Collins

June 6, 2010 at 6:31 pm

I picked up the first 3 trades of Legacy last year and…didn’t care much for them. They were well done comics, but the stories and characters just didn’t grab me as much as I had hoped. Which is a shame because Ostrander is my second favorite writer of all time behind Alan Moore and Duursema has always been a solid artist going back to her days on Arion for DC.

So, Legacy’s cancellation gets a big “That’s a shame for its fans, and for John and Jan” sentiment from me, but a part of me is also excited that it could mean something else on the way from the two of them that I might be more interested in…

Yeah, I have to agree that it seems like a stupid idea. I’ve heard so much great stuff about this series, and I’ve always been a big Ostrander fan, but the book was so far along when I first heard about it that I didn’t want to just jump in in the middle. I finally just bought the first trade, and now it gets canceled . . .

Ostrander was writing a Star Wars book? For real?

funkygreenjerusalem

June 7, 2010 at 7:14 am

Ostrander was writing a Star Wars book? For real?

The weird thing?

It was waaaaay awesome.
And I don’t have much love for Star Wars outside of the original three we grew up with.
Ostrander just went to town making his own sci-fi world that had some star ward references in it.

FGJ: It was actually rather embued with true Star Warsness, from the original 3 movies, and lots of touchstones to the Marvel series…the only thing us fans had back in the days to last us between movies before video tape and computer forums.

Ostrander was writing a Star Wars book? For real?

Ostrander has been one of the main writers on Dark Horse’s Star Wars series of comics since about 1999.

Now I won’t argue that the comic was good or sold well.

I wish it was set later in the timeline or an Infinity or something…. I don’t care for the narrative notion that Luke Skywalker’s legacy, or at least success, cannot last for more than one generation if that….

I’ve never understood this notion some Star Wars fans have that there shouldn’t be any conflict at all after Return of the Jedi.

Remember how after World War II ended, there was never any fighting anywhere after that? Yeah…

More importantly, it kinda sucks from a dramatic standpoint. Things pretty much fell apart already in the stories set when Luke’s still an active character, because the alternative is not to have any stories with him at all.

If you want to pretend RotJ is the endpoint and ignore any story set after, go ahead. But don’t read further stories in a series called Star WARS and be annoyed by the presence of war.

Rohan Williams

June 8, 2010 at 6:27 am

FGJ: I love Legacy and I know very, very little about the extended Star Wars universe, but I don’t think the book is “Star Wars in name only”. It’s steeped in Star Wars lore, you just don’t have to know much about that lore to enjoy these stories. It’s very much like the original trilogy in that sense – it’s not at all necessary to obsess over the elaborate backstory, but it’s there all the same.

The solicitation for issue 50 notes its the final issue and that came out before the official announcement. I’m really surprised no one caught on to that at the time.

Some of us did catch it at the time and had a fit. Randy Stradley apologized to fans in TheForce.net’s Literature forum on how the announcement was handled.

Guarantee, Lucasfilm is going to start publishing in house. That is the only reason Lucas would stop milking a cash cow…to milk it harder.

If Dark Horse were losing the license, they wouldn’t be hyping an upcoming new ongoing series by John Jackson Miller, writer of Knights of the Old Republic… which recently ended after #50. Yeah, this is a pattern now.

Yep, you are probably right. It’s probably just standard Luscasfilm idiocy.

You do realize that Dark Horse has cancelled every single ongoing Star Wars comic aT issue 50? Legacy, Knights of the Old Republic. Others have gotten rebranded such as empire turned into rebellion.

You do realize that Dark Horse has cancelled every single ongoing Star Wars comic aT issue 50? Legacy, Knights of the Old Republic. Others have gotten rebranded such as empire turned into rebellion.

I specifically mention that if this is leading to a reboot, then no complaints, but since it isn’t, the complaint stands.

funkygreenjerusalem

June 8, 2010 at 8:39 pm

It’s steeped in Star Wars lore, you just don’t have to know much about that lore to enjoy these stories. It’s very much like the original trilogy in that sense – it’s not at all necessary to obsess over the elaborate backstory, but it’s there all the same.

Really?
I mean beyond Jedi’s, and good vs evil schools of magical power and the character names, I reckon you could of done this series as it’s own thing without changing much at all.
(And the Jedi’s are basically magical warriors)

I mean, I’ve not read any of the books or anything like that – neither has Lucas from what I can tell! – but it feels like a very different universe to begin with… the first few issues went ‘here is our history’, basically there was a three way war, and here we are now.

I dunno, I just don’t see that much that truly relies on Star Wars in it – and I think that was it’s biggest plus, it felt new.

Rohan Williams

June 8, 2010 at 9:10 pm

That three-way war is pretty essential to the story, though, and spins out of the whole Yuuzhan Vong thing that was going on in the novels and comics at the time. All the shifting allegiances between the Empire and the Republic and the Sith and the Jedi and whatever are really central to the book, and apparently build directly from the expanded universe stuff.

Like I say, I think that makes Legacy even more impressive – the creators were able to take a bunch of stuff I didn’t care about and turn it into a must-read book.

I agree, cancelling both Star Wars Legacy as well as KotOR at issues 50 was a really dumb idea. At least KotOR was near the point where a semi-decent ending point could be. Legacy? Not-so-much.

Fvck G.Lucas…he is always trying to destroy everything that makes his stupid series look better than the mess he did with his stupid “Special Edition” cheap stuff….this sucks…

Anyway…KOTOR & Legacy are FAR BETTER stories that those written by u mr. wanna-take-all-ur-money-effortlessly….

F.U. Lucas & ur shitty cheap saga…

I’ll bet that they’ll just make a spin-off to Legacy…there have been COUNTLESS hints from Ostrander and Darkhorse that it will continue…just not under the title Legacy per-se…

Oh and the 25th anniversary of DarkHorse is coming up so they want to make room for new TITLES..no reason why they can’t continue Legacy under a different name.

they’ve done it before.

Hi,

I think the answer to the cancelation is there : http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26334
Lucas wants us to play SWTOR, to read SWTOR books (http://mmogamerchick.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/swtor-fatal-alliance-review/ , http://www.wethefew.com/?p=281 ) and comic books. Do you remember the marketing strategy for shadows of the empire and the force unleashed ?

I am sad for legacy. The universe and story were great !

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