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Saturday in an Age Undreamed Of
Last week, we took a look at how the Frazetta/Conan/sword-and-sorcery craze swept through 1970s-era spinner-rack paperbacks like a brushfire, and how that brushfire eventually spread to comics. That look back got to be too much for one column, so here’s part two.
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DC’s failure to generate their own Conan-level success by adapting Fritz Leiber’s Lankhmar stories in Sword of Sorcery didn’t discourage them. A couple of years later they tried again…. hard.
In 1975 DC tried to launch an entire line of fantasy/adventure comics.

No, actually, I have NO IDEA how The Avenger got in this picture. But he clearly blames Tor for it.
Tor and Kong both fall a little out of the realm of this survey, being more straight caveman-adventure strips, and honestly I think DC just threw the Avenger in there because they didn’t know what category he belonged in. (If they’d asked me, I could have told them — even in 1975, I knew that Richard Benson belonged in the top tier with the rest of the superhero types. He had special powers, wore a costume, and fought crime. Duh.) But the others bear looking at.
The star, of course, was Mike Grell’s Warlord, and the reason for that strip’s success can be summed up in two words — MIKE and GRELL.


WARLORD was the same kind of personal effort for Mike Grell that SABLE and GREEN ARROW would be. As a result, it worked, and it worked in a non-Conan kind of way.
Warlord had something that almost none of the other 1970s barbarian knockoff strips had going for them — a creator that was personally invested in the character, and who was willing to stay on the book. Moreover, Mike Grell wisely chose to avoid the Conan model in favor of the Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter/Pellucidar one…. choosing a main character from our modern world and putting him in a strange and magical place, rather than going with a hero that was born and raised there. Travis Morgan was an Air Force pilot that went off course and ended up marooned in the lost world of Skartaris, and so we discovered it along with him. It was a great strip and it has stayed consistently good over the last three decades, but only as long as Mike Grell was involved with it. It’s simply too personal a creation to pass on to other hands.
However, it took DC a lot of tries before they got a success with Warlord, which actually was the last title of the “Adventure Line” to appear.
The first try was the short-lived Beowulf, Dragon Slayer. It ran six issues.

Beowulf was.... different.
Beowulf began as a loose adaptation of the original epic poem, but very quickly went off in a direction that can be charitably described as demented. It was one of the strangest books DC ever put out that was not written by Bob Haney or Robert Kanigher.

Why yes, that IS a flying saucer. Is that a PROBLEM for you?
Certainly it felt like writer Michael Uslan was channeling his inner Haney when he had Beowulf battle, in addition to his traditional nemesis Grendel the ogre — wait for it —
* Dracula
* one of the lost tribes of Israel
* a group of space aliens
* Ulysses
* soldiers of Atlantis
* …and Satan.
Yeah, that Satan.
Uslan gave Beowulf a supporting cast, as well — most prominent being his girl Nan-Zee, who had the usual Frazetta-Red Sonja-hot babe thing going on.

Much like Red Sonja, Nan-Zee felt she fought best when attired in skimpy beach wear.
It’s easy to bag on Beowulf, and many bloggers have — but truthfully I kind of like it. It’s not good, exactly, but it’s got boundless energy, and that only-in-comics charm going for it. And it looked good — I’ve always thought the art on Beowulf was some of the best work ever done by Ricardo Villamonte, one of the few times in comics where his skills were used to their full advantage.

BEOWULF, DRAGON SLAYER, was a comic that was often completely insane. But it was a hell of a ride.
Even so, it’s probably just as well Beowulf ended when it did… after all, once your hero has jumped out of a Sumerian spaceship to land on a live volcano and kicked Satan in the ear, where do you go from there?

Beowulf was what fashion types call a Hot Mess... it was fun, but fun in a VERY WEIRD WAY.
Anyway, Beowulf Dragon Slayer‘s a good time if you see it in a dollar bin somewhere, but don’t spend real money.
DC did better with its next couple of tries, Stalker and Claw the Unconquered.

These were both actually pretty good… while they lasted. Which wasn’t very long.
Of the two, Claw was the more traditional… which may explain why he was slightly more successful. This was the DC title that came closest to Marvel’s Conan.

Claw was basically Conan with... well, with a claw.
David Michelinie wrote it, and Ernie Chan drew it for the first few issues. It was okay, but it was a brief enough run that it could almost have been published as a long Conan story about how he tried to remove a demon curse that gave him a claw.

If Claw had lasted a little longer Michelinie and Giffen might have moved it away from being just a Conan clone, but the effort was cut short.
Later Keith Giffen came on board and together he and Michelinie tried to give Claw a more individual backstory and direction than just a Conan who needed a manicure.
David Michelinie also tied in Claw with his other sword-slinging DC series, Starfire. It wasn’t officially included in the DC “Fantasy Adventure Line,” I think because it premiered a little after the others. But I’d certainly consider Starfire a candidate for inclusion here, although there are those that would classify this warrior-woman book as more of a science fiction title.

Starfire existed in the same genre gray area as Edgar Rice Burroughs’ John Carter of Mars… sort of SF but not really. (John Carter himself has a pretty fair comics pedigree, but I already did that column a couple of years ago.) Anyway, in Starfire the science was only there as an excuse to get to the hot babe with a sword that fought monsters… calling it science fiction is, to me, like calling Baywatch a Coast Guard drama. She was pretty obviously DC’s shot at creating its own Red Sonja. But your mileage may vary.
Anyway, whatever you call it, it didn’t succeed. Starfire was canceled after issue #8. Claw hung in there a little longer — that series was canceled with issue #9, revived a year and a half later with #10, and then canceled again with #12 as part of the “DC Implosion” in 1978. There were a couple of inventory stories that appeared as backups in Warlord and as part of Canceled Comics Cavalcade.
DC writers have occasionally referenced Claw and his homeland of Pytharia since then in Swamp Thing, Sandman, and most notably the short-lived Primal Force which featured a modern-day version of Claw. But the actual character didn’t get revived until a Wildstorm mini-series that came out in 2006, in a crossover with Red Sonja (done as a cooperative venture with Dynamite, who’d picked up the rights to Sonja by then.) This was followed by a solo Wildstorm series, and though both are collected in trade, neither was hugely successful, and the Wildstorm Claw was canceled after six issues.

The trouble with Claw is that once he solves his hand problem, what's left?
I can’t really fault the decision. Again, the books were kind of interesting but not that great. The Claw solo title from Chuck Dixon and Andy Smith especially seemed to be struggling for a real direction. The trouble with Claw is that he’s too close to Conan to be seen as anything other than a knockoff, but when you concentrate on the curse of his Demon Claw in an effort to differentiate him, you run into the difficulty of setting up a problem that, if solved, effectively ends the series.
Stalker was a much more interesting book, but it didn’t last long either.

Stalker was a cool-LOOKING book, certainly, with that Steve Ditko/Wally Wood art.
This was written by a DC newcomer named Paul Levitz — hey, whatever happened to him? — with really breathtaking art from Steve Ditko and Wally Wood.
The premise of Stalker was similar to Claw, in that it was about an adventurer trying to get out from under a demon curse, but that was where the similarities ended.

Stalker had much more of a straight fantasy vibe than the other barbarian books out there.
Levitz kicked off the series with a loosely-structured four-parter that ended with Stalker confronting the demon lord Dgrth and they struck a compromise that would have laid the foundation for the rest of the series… but sadly, it never came to pass. The fourth issue was the last.
Stalker has popped up a couple of times in recent years. David Goyer and James Robinson used him as a mystic villain in their revival of the Justice Society in 1999. This story was set in the World War II years and had a group of Nazis accidentally release Stalker upon the earth in an effort to acquire mystic power for Hitler.

The deity-murdering Stalker the Soulless is, of course, a natural resource for the Nazis to seek out.
And in the Wonder Woman story Ends of the Earth Gail Simone and Aaron Lopresti used him as a guest star, along with Beowulf Dragon Slayer and Claw the Unconquered.

Sword-wielding barbarians do a guest shot in Wonder Woman. Isn't this where we came in?
Which, considering Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser made their DC debut in Wonder Woman back in 1973, kind of brings the DC sword-and-sorcery effort full circle.
Ends of the Earth is available in trade, as is Justice Society Returns by Goyer and Robinson. Stalker itself is, sadly, only out there in back issues but it’s not terribly expensive to pick up.
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Marvel and DC weren’t the only comics publishers dipping their toes in the barbarian pool back in the 1970s.
The short-lived Atlas Comics line had a couple of sword-and-sorcery efforts among their number. Both of them were interesting books, at least to start with. (Of course, that was true of virtually all the Atlas titles. The history of every book Atlas Comics put out can be summed up as “strong start, but sputtered to a lame finish soon after.”)
Wulf the Barbarian was the brainchild of Larry Hama, who supplied both script and art.

Hama created Wulf as a warrior prince on a journey to reclaim his kingdom, which is a different enough concept from Conan that the book might have had a shot.

The initial effort was promising. However, Hama laft after issue #2 and the book itself was canceled with #4. That’s a pretty brief tenure even for Atlas.
Ironjaw fared slightly better than Wulf, but only slightly.

Ironjaw at least got Neal Adams covers for his launch.
Ironjaw was created and written by Michael Fleisher, who already had something of a reputation for weird and creepy comics from his time at DC scripting the Spectre and Jonah Hex.
Certainly Ironjaw was weird enough, and more than a touch creepy. (When your titular hero has a bear trap for a face, really, you kind of have to go with weird and creepy as your mission statement.)

Ironjaw's moderately disturbing origin.
Since Ironjaw came earlier, he got a better launch…. Neal Adams covers, and slightly wider distribution. Certainly, you could tell they had hopes for the book.

Somewhere, Wulf the barbarian is wondering who he had to sleep with to get that kind of PR push from Atlas.
However, despite all the effort, Ironjaw crashed and burned after four issues, though he also got to headline in Atlas’ The Barbarians for an issue, which puts him one up on Wulf.

Coulda been a CONTENDA!
These have never been reprinted anywhere… in fact, I’m not sure who even has the rights to these stories. However, I will once again suggest that some sort of Best of Atlas trade paperback wouldn’t be a bad idea at all. During their two years or so of publishing, Atlas put out some really good-looking books. (Well, in the first year they did, anyway.)
In the meantime, you can content yourself with the excellent Atlas Archives web site, which is a wonderful resource for guys like me. I got a lot of these pics from them so the least I can do is provide a link. Here you go.
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Even the undergrounds caught barbarian fever in the 1970s.

Not even the underground cartoonists could resist the urge to play in Frazetta's sandbox.
There had been an enthusiastic Howard/Conan fandom going for quite a while already, springboarding off the paperback boom. There were already several fanzines and Amateur Press Association ‘zines that had strong followings, aided in part by art contributions from professionals like Roy Krenkel and Steranko.

Back in the olden days, it was a lot easier to persuade a pro to contribute a little something you could put in your 'zine.
So it really wasn’t that big a leap for someone to try their own barbarian comic using the underground/zine/indie model instead of the Marvel/DC/newsstand one.
Which is exactly what Bud Plant did. After Barbarian Killer Funnies came out in 1974, he followed that up with The First Kingdom, from Jack Katz.

One of the first true graphic novels, FIRST KINGDOM was very much its own thing.
The First Kingdom was a story of a post-apocalyptic world reduced to savagery. The hero is Darkenmoor, a hunter who loses his tribe and is doomed to tragedy, as foretold early on by an old seer. His path is quickly crossed by a group of “gods,” who live in a civilization atop high mountains. Darkenmoor gathers other people, fights monsters, and founds a kingdom of his own — the better to do battle with the first kingdom.
But I’m not really doing it justice. This was a complex, layered story that was every bit as much about society, humanity, and politics as it was the swords and monster fighting. And the fact that the writing was so ambitious is nothing compared to the amazing strides Katz made with his art.

Whoa.
The progression from the early issues to the later ones is extraordinary, in both writing and art.
The First Kingdom was one complete story, told over the course of 24 issues. Today those issues are difficult to find and expensive when you do, but there are a couple of trade collections of the early issues out there as well — sadly, those are out of print too, but marginally easier to find than the original comics. One hopes one of these days some smart publisher will get the whole thing back in print.
The other big underground success in the genre would have to be Wendy Pini’s ElfQuest.

This series is just a remarkable achievement.
There is just way too much ElfQuest material out there to even begin to try to sum it up in the space of a paragraph or two. Wendy and Richard Pini broke so much ground, both in the fantasy genre and in the arena of creator’s rights, and other people have already written so much about those things, that I really don’t know what’s left to say. Other than that you have to admire someone who’s been able to maintain the kind of clear and consistent vision for a work the way Wendy Pini has done with her creation even as it bounced from being an underground property, to a pioneering piece of self-publishing through WaRP Graphics, to being one of the brighter stars at Marvel/Epic, back again to self-publishing at WaRP, and most recently at DC — all without a single compromise. ElfQuest has stayed ElfQuest all the way through, without being co-opted or crossed over or messed with. Even if you’re not a fan, that’s something to be applauded.

These DC Archive collections are my pick for the best way to read ElfQuest, but it's not like you don't have options.
The good news is that it’s easy to find. I favor the new archive editions from DC but there’s any number of collections new and old available to you.
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The trouble with doing an article like this is that it very quickly becomes obvious that it really could be a book. After all, where do you stop?
Even confining the scope of these two columns to the Frazetta/Conan-inspired stuff from the late 1960s through the 1970s, something I have been desperately trying to do, I still find myself running across more and more comics that should be included. What about the black-and-white magazine comics that occasionally did this kind of thing? (There was a lot of Frazetta work at Warren, after all.) Should Cerebus count? Or Groo?

Inclusion by mentioning their non-inclusion. This is what we columnists like to refer to as CHEATING.
Those are humor books and that’s how most people think of them…. but Groo and Cerebus both fall into the time period in question and certainly both can be said to be spinoffs of the 70s barbarian craze. Neither would have existed without the Conan comics to react to. And so on.
Truthfully, you reach a point where you don’t finish so much as stop.
And we’re there. I’m stopping. I am certain I left out a lot, but I hope these two columns have given you a little snapshot of how it was, back when I was a sprout and the paperback spinner racks were all about guys in loincloths fighting big ugly lizards. I have tremendous affection for that stuff and very fond memories of those days, which is why I love movies like The Sword and the Sorcerer and Fire and Ice out of all proportion to their actual virtues. I can even enjoy the Kevin Sorbo Kull, a film that sends most fans into paroxysms of the kind of rage usually reserved for Jar Jar Bniks.

I love these. I can't help myself. Pity me.
I don’t mean to imply this kind of comic isn’t still around. Dynamite Entertainment has been doing some nice stuff with their revival of Red Sonja, and I’m delighted with what Dark Horse is doing with the Howard properties like Conan and Kull and Solomon Kane. I never miss any of those…but I have to admit that what I really love is Dark Horse’s conscientious reprint program of the old Marvel stuff.

Never in a million years did I think I'd get comics packaged like this back when I was a kid.
And DC’s reprinting of Warlord and Elfquest. And so on.
Because when I was thirteen and arguing with my art teacher about whether or not it was valid to do sword-and-sorcery paintings in art class, the idea that this material would ever be published in book form and treated with actual respect — well, that was really an Age Undreamed Of.
See you next week.






27 Comments
Sijo
July 24, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I remember some of these comics; it was around that time that I discovered American comics. However I never got into Fantasy comics like I did with superheroes, because a) they were scarce (I found exactly one issue of Claw, and never even saw the rest of DC’s fantasy output) and b) quite honestly they either freaked me out (that Claw issue was the one with the Eater of Souls mentioned above, a concept I found quite disturbing) or just looked all the same to me (“Conan with a gimmick”). Still looking back on them now I must admit that at least they had very good artwork.
I’d argue that some of titles you mention don’t really fit the whole “Barbarian Fantasy” archetype; Elfquest was way too complex for that, and First Kingdom sounds like it was too. Barbarian stories are basically about one man’s (or woman’s) primitive needs- survive, get laid, etc., with no real overarching plot other than revenge on particular foes. Still, thanks for reminding us of them.
Btw, I also remember seeing a character named “Wulf” in a magazine but I strongly doubt it was the Atlas character. This one was pretty much a softcore porn version of Conan, with graphic (though usually obscured) sex scenes! I suspect it may have been a translation of some European comic.
The Mutt
July 24, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I bought all of these off the spinner racks. I was a huge Conan fan and wanted more. I was also a huge Tarzan fan, and loved the idea of Pellucidar, so Warlord felt like it was written just for me. And I have no hesitation saying that Warlord featured the nakedest characters ever to appear in a mainstream DC comic.
I absolutely loved Beowulf. It broke my heart when it was cancelled. It is truly awesome. And you can get them in the quarter box. And you should.
Can you pick a worse artist for a sword and sorcery comic than Steve Ditko? Curt Swan? Steve Dillon?
The “God help me I love this” panel from Warlord is one of my favorites in DC history. Very bold thing for a DC hero to say back in the day. It blew my mind.
Ironjaw was the best of the Atlas comics. Probably the only one that didn’t totally reboot after its first issue.
Do you oldsters remember the huge kerfluffle that happened because the first issue of Starfire had a printing error that left the Comics Code seal off of the cover? We studied that issue like it was the Bible, looking for a nipple or a pube or anything that would explain it.
Great article, Greg. Thanks for the memories.
The Mutt
July 24, 2010 at 3:18 pm
ETA- This was in the early days of Comic Book Shops, so I bought some of them there. There was only one shop in my town, and “guys hanging out at the store talking comics” was what we did before the internet.
Zach
July 24, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Great article… very interesting info. First Kingdom looks worthwhile for the art alone.
trajan23
July 24, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Mutt: “Can you pick a worse artist for a sword and sorcery comic than Steve Ditko?”
Actuall, Mutt, Ditko did an outstanding job on STALKER; the book is worth buying simply for his artwork alone.
Greg Hatcher
July 24, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Don’t forget Wood’s contribution. Really the combination is quite striking and it’s the only time I’ve ever liked seeing Ditko’s stuff inked by anyone other than Ditko himself.
Ditko’s certainly not Frazetta-esque, unlike virtually every other artist working sword-and-sorcery turf in the Bronze Age, but that’s what I liked about it. It fit the story of Stalker beautifully. I thought I made that clear, but if I didn’t there it is.
As for who *I* think probably the worst artist for that kind of material would be… hmmm. tough call. I’d probably say someone with a really clean line, like, say, Terry Austin. To do that kind of material properly you need to leave a few rough edges. Those are anathema to Austin. He’s a brilliant artist but I think he’d be wholly unsuited to a strip like Conan or Warlord or whatever.
Of course, I’d have said the same thing about Mike Grell back when he was on the Legion giving everybody those groovy bell-bottom outfits, so who knows? People can surprise you.
Louis Bright-Raven
July 24, 2010 at 8:11 pm
FIRST KINGDOM by Jeff Katz – my LCS has them at like $2 to $5 a book, but I don’t know if it’s the whole run or not. I was glancing at them briefly a couple weeks back, and now you talk about it. Funny how that happens.
The Mutt
July 24, 2010 at 8:46 pm
“Of course, I’d have said the same thing about Mike Grell back when he was on the Legion giving everybody those groovy bell-bottom outfits, so who knows? People can surprise you.”
Well, you’ve got a point there.
But Grell’s work on Warlord was quite different from what he did on the Legion. Ditko doing sword and sorcery always looked like community theater Shakespeare to me.
Gavin
July 24, 2010 at 10:24 pm
I can recall finding an issue of Stalker in the bin back in the 80′s and I thought “More like Bean-Stalker” because his outfit seemed inspired by The Jolly Green Giant. I snapped it up because I was such a fan of Ditko. Great article as always.
Edo Bosnar
July 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm
I missed a lot of those DC titles because most of them folded either just before or as I was getting into comics. Stalker is definitely on my want list, but I’d even give Beowulf a try (and I’m still puzzling over the failure of Sword of Sorcery – I guess it has to do with what you said about a committed creative team…)
I did, however, have the entire run of Starfire: in those days before the internet, I bought it blind from Lone Star’s mail order catalogue when I was in 7th or 8th grade – the whole run cost less than $2, and I thought it was going to be a straight-up SF title with starships and laserguns, etc. I was a bit disappointed to find it was Red Sonja-lite in space. As I recall, the underlying idea was pretty serviceable (rebellion against some kind of evil overlords, right?), but I mostly remember some pretty bland stories and art…
By the way, I’d only heard of First Kingdom a few years ago, and I’m absolutely intrigued by it. You’re right, it definitely needs a smart publisher to put out a reprint. I’m actually surprised Fantagraphics hasn’t already done so.
Anyway, thanks for another fun article.
funkygreenjerusalem
July 25, 2010 at 12:55 am
As always, great column!
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of The First Kingdom, sounds amazing, and looks awesome.
KAM
July 25, 2010 at 3:09 am
While it was a shame that Stalker got canceled, even at the time I could see that the basic premise of the issues to follow could have degraded to just “Stalker arrives, Stalker killers followers of Dgrth, Stalker leaves”, so in a way its cancellation makes it an early mini-series.
IIRC Micheline tied Claw & Starfire in with his Star Hunters when Donovan Flint was shown glimpses of previous battles between good & evil.
Does everyone who draws Claw’s claw draw it differently? Three of the pics you show have different looking claws & IIRC it looked different in the Warlord back-up stories as well.
BTW the Warlord back-up Claw stories did end with Claw meeting the demon who had his human hand & kinda revealing that Claw was stuck with the demon hand.
That Beowolf #2 cover reminded me of when I was attending a gem & mineral show that was being hosted in a school gymnasium & on the wall were posters by students & one of the posters was a redrawing of that cover.
My love of Warlord has popped up a bit in my webcomic, most obviously in this cartoon http://www.drunkduck.com/The_KAMics/index.php?p=68300
Sadly i just don’t have Mike Grell’s art talent.
Johnny Bacardi
July 25, 2010 at 4:05 am
Many bloggers may have bagged on Beowulf, but I wasn’t one of them.
Tom Fitzpatrick
July 25, 2010 at 6:18 am
I remember reading and enjoying: Stalker, First Kingdom, Elfquest, Cerebus, and Groo.
To say that the First Kingdom was complex is rather an understatement. This took some reading.
Of course, Elfquest was of lighter fare. Groo, is always good for a laugh. Cerebus always took a satiric, sarcastic look and everything in comics and public figures.
David
July 25, 2010 at 9:29 am
Great article. Not sure that I agree with @Tom Fitzpatrick’s assessment that Elfquest was lighter fare though. Sure, the characters have big eyes, soft hair and pretty clothes, but that’s just the manga influence. And true, it’s deliberately designed to be a “family-friendly” story — but both of those facts belie the depth and richness of the storytelling and characterization and they certainly never meant that younger readers were talked down to or that Puritanical parents were pandered to with censorship.
Elfquest is pretty and has something for younger audiences but it’s never been saccharine and it’s always pushed the envelope and made readers ask hard questions about themselves and our society at large. Graphic violence and gore, orgies, torture, monsters, complex love-triangles, attempted genocide, same-sex relationships…these are not the stuff of a work that can be written off as “lighter fare.”
Jazzbo
July 25, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Stalker is one of my favorite DC series ever. I just really got a kick out of it.
Mary Warner
July 25, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I remember that DC ad. I never saw most of those books, though– I read just one issue of Claw, and possibly Kong (I remember a book with a blonde caveman and dinosaurs– was that it?)
I read one issue of a Warren magazine called ’1984′. It was an anthology with several stories, including a series by Frank Thorne called Ghita (I think). It would definitely fit in with all these, although it leaned a bit towards the porno genre.
Edo Bosnar
July 26, 2010 at 1:46 am
By the way, re: your comment about Ditko and inkers. Besides Wood, there is one other artist whose inks jibe surprisingly well with Ditko’s pencils: John Byrne. I couldn’t believe how good the art in Avengers Annual 14 looked when I first saw it…
Tom Fitzpatrick
July 26, 2010 at 5:49 am
@ David: Try comparing Elquest to Conan in terms of swords and sorcery and fantasy. Yes, there’s violence and seriousness in Elfquest, but not as bloody or gritty as Conan. Maybe “lighter” was the wrong word, but the art by Wendy Pini was definitely eye-catching.
Mark Cook
July 26, 2010 at 7:59 am
Elfquest is even easier to find than that: the Pinis have all of it available online for free at http://www.elfquest.com
I hope I haven’t destroyed everyone’s productivity today.
"O" the Humanatee!
July 26, 2010 at 11:52 am
Let me add my voice to the praise of Beowulf. It was a crazy, unpredictable series, and a lot of fun. I assume “Nan-Zee” was named after someone in Michael Uslan’s life named Nancy. Also, the art by Ricardo Villamonte was beautiful. I agree with Johnny Bacardi’s statement (in his linked blog post), “I … wish it could have had half as many issues as the vastly inferior and inexplicably more popular Warlord did.” I don’t know if Johnny is including Grell’s art in that comparison, but I’ve never understood the enthusiasm for Grell. His little scritch-scratchy lines suggest good drawing, but to me they look like he’s guessing where they should go in hopes that it will all pay off. When you pay attention the art is quite bad in many ways. He draws a lot of anatomy, but the pieces often fit together poorly; for example, he often draws wrists curving instead of bending. And he often commits amazingly juvenile errors, like squeezing a body so that it fits within panel borders. That’s the kind of thing most children grow out of long before they’re teenagers. I’ve felt this way about his art even when I was liking his writing: I read Jon Sable for a long time.
The only later work I ever saw from Villamonte was inking over various artists at Marvel, especially over folks like Denys Cowan and Kerry Gammill. It was very pretty, but it was a shame not to see full art by Villamonte.
David
July 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm
@Tom – Definitely, Elfquest’s “heaviness” is way different than that of Conan and the other titles listed in the article. I think that’s because in Elfquest, violence is not meant to be something entertaining. It’s generally depicted as a wasteful, obscene horror. Sex is depicted as a joyful, life-affirming, fun activity. With Conan, I think the reason one reads it is to see Conan hack heads off and bed wenches. Conan is definitely not light, but it’s surprisingly juvenile in its appeal in that sense (not that there’s anything wrong with enjoying head-hacking and wench-bedding in your fantasy comics). Elfquest, which seems so much lighter at first glance, is actually a lot more serious and adult in its treatment of heavier issues.
Here are a bunch of examples of how violence is treated in Elfquest (use the arrow keys read the entire scenes). It’s there to add drama and intensity to the story, but it’s not celebrated. In fact, quite the opposite. Definitely different than most other sword and sorcery type fantasy.
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ15/_Original%20ElfQuest%20-%2015_page=1#_27#
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/HY/HY09.5/_Hidden%20Years%20-%209.5_page=1#_29#
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/HY/HY05/_Hidden%20Years%20-%205_page=1#_15#
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ17/_Original%20ElfQuest%20-%2017_page=1#_20#
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/NB/NB12/_New%20Blood%20-%2012_page=1#_24#
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/WH/_ElfQuest%20-%20Wild%20Hunt_page=1#_217#
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raza bronze
July 26, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Ditko=Genius
Edo Bosnar
July 27, 2010 at 2:53 am
Ooops. Sorry, I just realized I made a mistake. The Ditko/Byrne artwork is in Avengers Annual 13, not 14…
Kevin Hellions
July 28, 2010 at 11:41 am
These last two columns are a stunning reminder of the greatness that is comics. Even if there were no new comics starting today, here is this rich history waiting to be discovered. Next week’s column will have yet another treasure from the past that most of us never heard of but will now desire with Episode 1 level passion (and none of the later regret).
Will my Bronze age comic books fit in Silver age bags/boards? | Silver Age Comic Books
July 28, 2010 at 11:46 am
[...] Saturday in an Age Undreamed Of | Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources [...]
Travis Pelkie
July 31, 2010 at 2:34 am
Well, Cerebus started as a pretty obvious Conan parody (Conan as funny animal), and featured in the first few issues Red Sophia, Bran Mak Mufin and Elrod. So it certainly deserves a mention.
This was, as always, a great article.
Let me also play off of O’s comment on Grell’s art. A very famous comics person, who I won’t name as I don’t want to “tell tales out of school” (well, too much, anyway) was at a local con in the last few years and somehow got onto the subject of Grell. He mentioned about an inker of Grell’s that showed this person a Grell pencilled page with pretty bad anatomy. The inker wasn’t sure where the hell to ink. This comics person also pointed out that Grell’s signature is a knock off of someone whose name rhymes with “Neal Adams” (ahem). I don’t know Grell’s stuff enough to judge myself, but O isn’t alone in his dislike of Grell’s art.