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Comic Book Legends Revealed #274

Welcome to the two-hundred and seventy-fourth in a series of examinations of comic book legends and whether they are true or false. Click here for an archive of the previous two hundred and seventy-three..

Comic Book Legends Revealed is part of the larger Legends Revealed series, where I look into legends about the worlds of entertainment and sports, which you can check out here, at legendsrevealed.com. I’d especially recommend you check out this installment of TV Legends Revealed to see a special “All-Lassie” edition of TV Legends, including answering the question – “How many times during the Lassie series did Timmy fall down a well?”

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COMIC LEGEND: The band Devo was partially inspired by an early issue of Wonder Woman!

STATUS: Sure Seems to be True

Nowadays, Devo is mostly known for their 1980 hit, “Whip It” and its bizarre music video.

But the origins of the group go back over a decade earlier to when Kent State art students Bob Lewis and Gerard Casale began joking about the concept of “de-evolution,” the notion that human beings were becoming dumber and less thoughtful as time went on.

They made a series of art pieces under this notion. When they met Mark Mothersbaugh in 1970, the guys decided to form a band. The shootings at Kent State in May of 1970 were also a major demarcation point in the band’s career, as they felt that the shooting was a clear sign that their joke about people actually WAS true!

The guys specifically credited three items of popular culture in their development of the idea of “de-evolution.”

One notable example was the 1933 film, Island of Lost Souls, based on the HG Wells’ novel, “The Island of Dr. Moreau,” about mutated animals.

The line from the film, “Are we not men?” later made its way to Devo’s first studio album, Q: Are we not men? A: We are Devo!

Another example (this was Mothersbaugh’s contribution to the concept) was a 1924 Fundamentalist anti-evolution pamphlet titled Jocko-Homo Heavenbound, where the devil is shown as D-Evolution.

This inspired the Devo song “Jocko Homo” which, in turn, worked in the whole “Are we not men?” bit as a call and answer routine, “Are we not men?/We are Devo!” The song would later be re-recorded and included on Q: Are we not men? A: We are Devo.

Finally, and oddly enough, they were inspired by an old issue of Wonder Woman by William Moulton Marston and HG Peter.

You see, in 1944’s Wonder Woman #9…

a scientist developed an evolution machine that is damaged, becoming a DE-evolution machine.

In Wonder Woman #28 (by the same creative team)…

the scientist’s device returns…

This issue of Wonder Woman was later reprinted in Adventure Comics #416, which came out in late 1971…

So that was how the guys had access to a Golden Age Wonder Woman story.

In an 1978 interview with the band, Jon Savage asked Gerard Casale about the devolution idea and he responded:

Devolution was a combination of a Wonder Woman comic book and the movie lsland of Lost Souls, the original, with Bela Lugosi, Lon Chaney, Charles Laughton. That was various things I’d been thinking about devolution, of going ahead to go back, things falling apart, entropy. It grabbed every piece of information and gave it some kind of cohesive presence- it was a package. Just as our music and our identity exist as technique rather than a style.

Pretty crazy, huh?

Thanks so much to reader Peter W., who turned me on to this one. And thanks to Jon Savage for the interview and Gerard Casale for the information!

Also, thanks to the good folks of We Are Devo!, a complete guide to the history of Devo written by Jade Dellinger and David Giffels and edited by Jeff E. Winner, who turned me on to the specific issue that Devo was inspired by (and what comic it was reprinted in). Check out their site here and order a copy of what Chuck Klosterman called “as close as anyone will ever come to explaining where Devo’s brilliant absurdity came from, and more importantly, why it was so culturally essential.”

COMIC LEGEND: DC turned down an inexpensive option to make James Bond comic books.

STATUS: True

In early 1963, and odd issue of DC’s Showcase was released, featuring an adaptation of the British film Dr. No.

The story was originally published in the British edition of Classics Illustrated, adapted by comic book writer/artist Norman J. Nodel. Nodel adapted the screenplay, not the film itself, and as a result, James Bond looks SORT of like Sean Connery, but not absolutely like Sean Connery.

You’ll note that the word balloons are in the British style.

So with the film coming out in the United States in late 1963, the folks behind the film wanted to release the comic in the United States, as well. Classics Illustrated, however, was less willing to be a marketing tool in the United States, especially as their biggest market was schools and stuff like that – not the audience for an adaptation of a modern action film.

The film people asked Independent News if they could release it as a one-shot. Independent News said that they would not be willing to release it as a one-shot, but they instead worked out a deal with DC Comics (who were owned by the same group that owned Independent News) to publish the adaptation as an issue of Showcase.

DC did not exactly promote the comic, and at the time, James Bond was not well known in the States.

Had they waited a couple of months, they would have seen the film hit the States BIG TIME with its US release later in 1963.

However, when DC agreed to publish the issue (and really, as it was already written and drawn, it wasn’t exactly a major burden), they were also given an inexpensive option (as the Bond producers did not know if the film would hit it big in the States either) to do a Bond comic book if they so wished.

DC did not do anything with the option and seemed to have forgotten about it, even as the Bond films became international smashes throughout the 1960s. Finally, with the option set to expire in 1972, DC seriously considered doing a comic book based on Bond, but with Sean Connery announcing he was leaving the series, they decided against it.

I know it was a different environment, and certainly, a James Bond from DC during the 1960s/early 1970s would have been a LOT different from the films, but still, you would think it would have done pretty well, no?

Ah well, what is done is done, I suppose.

Thanks to Mark Evanier, who detailed the whole story on his site here, and thanks to our own Greg Hatcher for giving me the head’s up on it in a column a couple of years back (sometimes I take quite awhile to get around to using an idea – Peter’s Devo/Wonder Woman idea “only” had to wait a couple of months!).

COMIC LEGEND: Howard Chaykin designed Guy Gardner’s famous costume that debuted during the Green Lantern tie-ins with Crisis on Infinite Earths.

STATUS: False

I’ll freely admit that occasionally even I’m taken in by a “Comic Book Legend.” Heck, the whole column STARTED because I fell for one years ago involving Walt Simonson’s Fantastic Four run.

This time around, it involves Guy Gardner, or more specifically, the new costume he began wearing starting in Green Lantern #195.

The costume debuts at the end of Green Lantern #195, drawn by Joe Staton.

However, it first appears on a cover by Howard Chaykin for Green Lantern #196.

Chakyin was not the regular cover artist for Green Lantern, and if you look at Chaykin’s work, like his popular American Flagg series (which was still going on at the time), the design of the two costumes are similar enough that you would think Chaykin designed them both.

And that’s what I had read over the years in a number of places. For one example, here’s the great DC Timeline website:

Green Lantern 196 features the return of Guy Gardner, the renegade Green Lantern in a new costume designed by Howard Chaykin. Steve Englehart writes and Joe Staton draws.

However, commenter Francisco Gonzalez pointed out that Joe Staton was the one who designed the costume.

And sure enough, just a few issues later, in Green Lantern #199, the letter column states:

So it was Joe Staton who designed the popular costume. Good job, Joe!

Thanks to Francisco for the head’s up!

Okay, that’s it for this week!

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72 Comments

Hey, Cronin — punk history? You’re treading on my turf now.

The book of extras in the Absolute Crisis on Infinite Earths has a picture of the original sketch that Staton did when he designed Guy Gardner’s look. It says that they had to rush it to Jerry Ordway to fix during inking, because George Pérez didn’t know Guy would have a different costume, and drew him wearing the standard Green Lantern Corpos unifor,.

Devo also recorded a song the lyrics to which were taken directly and entirely from an old Julius Schwartz-edited DC science fiction comic.

” the concept of “de-evolution,” the notion that human beings were becoming dumber and less thoughtful as time went on.”

My god, it’s scary to see just how true Devo’s words were.

Man, that William Moulton Marston sure liked his bondage!

That he did, Richard, that he did.

The book of extras in the Absolute Crisis on Infinite Earths has a picture of the original sketch that Staton did when he designed Guy Gardner’s look. It says that they had to rush it to Jerry Ordway to fix during inking, because George Pérez didn’t know Guy would have a different costume, and drew him wearing the standard Green Lantern Corpos unifor,.

Very cool piece of info, James! Thanks!

“…James Bond looks SORT of like Sean Connery, but not absolutely like Sean Connery.”

Uh, Brian, are we looking at the same pages? Becuase that REALLY looks like Sean Connery.

Yeah, fair enough, Zane, I did actually mean to write “a lot” (hence the “absolutely” part as a contrast), but I wrote “sort of” for some reason. I’ll change it.

That is one beautiful redhead that evloved from the ape. Where can I get one of those machines?

Just read Evainer’s article… he mentions that one of the names DC discussed before deciding to allow the option to lapse was Alex Toth. How amazing would a Toth James Bond be? Sigh….

One final note: I have ALWAYS wondered about the Showcase debut of James Bond since I noted it in the 2nd Overstreet Guide (yes, I am THAT old!) Thanks for clearing that up.

Man, Guy Gardners costume had a lot of belt buckles on it. A LOT.

It reminds me of the costume fellow GL Kyle Rayner had a few years ago, designed by Jim Lee IIRC. That one also had a lot of buckles for whatever reason…

Thanks, Brian – I’ve posted a few pictures of the Absolute CoIE for a review a while ago, you can take a look here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesgf/4549739788/in/set-72157624545026973/

Clegane, Sandor

August 20, 2010 at 1:29 pm

Truthfully, that costume for Guy is more than a little silly, with the moonboots and bowl cut.

But given how otwo-dimensional Guy Gardner was (and to an extent, still is), it made sense to play him for laughs all around, I suppose. It’s why he fit in so well into the JLI series.

1) No matter who designed it, that version of Guy’s costume is one of my absolute least favorite costumes of all time (don’t get too comfortable, 90’s Daredevil armor)

2) I see that today’s photo-realism artists owe a lot to the likes of Mr. Norman J. Nodel

Joe Staton also drew several issues of AMERICAN FLAGG around this time (and was art director at First for a while), so he was certainly familiar with Flagg’s outfit.

Hi, Brian… It was the “all-girl” issue of Adventure Comics #416 which re-printed the Golden Age March-April 1948 Wonder Woman (issue #28) with a story about Professor Zool’s Laboratory experiments and Devolution Machine that actually inspired DEVO. It certainly was related to the Wonder Woman story that you reference, but Bob Lewis and Jerry Casale were given the Adventure Comics #416 by Bobbie Watson and her rather precise recollections are recounted in our book “We Are DEVO” – now available in paperback from SAF Publishing Ltd. or on Amazon.com. For additional details, you might want to check it out!

I don’t know if Mark Evanier mentioned in his piece or not but there’s an interesting, if sad, piece of trivia about that James Bond issue of Showcase. IAll the movie’s black characters are redrawn/recolored into white characters, and their Carribean patois rewritten into standard English. I’ve no idea if this was done for the original British edition (British Classics Illustrated #158A) or on DC’s own initiative. Given that context, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby’s decision a few months later to feature a black Howling Commando in Sgt. Fury #1 seems pretty damned bold.

He didn’t, Kurt, thanks!

I did read that somewhere else (Back Issue Magazine, maybe?), but I have never seen the original comic so I could never confirm.

“Nowadays, Devo is mostly just known for their 1980 hit, “Whip It” and its bizarre music video.”

Them’s fighting words!

Ha!

I don’t mean that as an insult!

I will take out “just,” though, as that does seem to give it more of a derisive feel than I intended.

Seriously, if that is all folks know Devo for, then I’m going to go all Living Tribunal and pass judgment on our universe! :)

Come on, you can’t argue with “mostly know”!

People “mostly know” Patti Lupone for playing the mom on Life Goes On, not for being one of the most prominent musical theater actresses of the past 30 years.

What people know and what people SHOULD know about singers/performers/artists are two vastly different things.

this is a plug: on their new just released CD DEVO used some custom synths my friend made from old adding machines and other junk!

Awesome stuff.

And I recommend that CD highly. What is Life Goes on?

Wow, I really want to know what’s going on with that Adventure Comics cover. The Enchantress, Dumb Bunny, Babs, Donna, Dinah, Harlequin AND Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks? I suspect they’re not really all in the comic, but that’s a pretty awesome assemblage.

Oh, MAN, how many absurd and/or offensive (by today’s standards) elements were there in that Golden Age Wonder Woman story? Let’s count them:
1- Everybody wanting the gorilla killed for being a dangerous wild animal, instead of, you know, sending it *back to the jungle?*
2-Gorilla bondage! But that was typical of WW back then. :D (I’m surprised that they didn’t have her magically sprout a cavewoman outfit ala the Hulk’s pants.)
3- It turns out that gorillas have their own language… making them SENTIENT, which would have made killing her murder!
4- Speaking of which, how come Diana and the rest didn’t retain their own languages instead of suddenly learning Caveman?
5- And those “cavemen” didn’t look all that different from modern people.
6- Oh, and if the devolution machine had really set time back “60 million years” no mammals would be present at all.

Re the James Bond comic, it looked good but it fails to capture the coolness of the movie. Some genres don’t convert well.

And Guy Gardner’s costume was about the only one I liked from Staton’s Green Lantern days. The rest were too cartoony. Also, everybody has forgotten how Guy used to be a NICE guy (no pun intended) but was “turned badass” (and stupid) just to distinguish him from the other GLs. I never cared for that.

You’ll note that the word balloons are in the British style.

I’m sorry, what does this mean. I’m British and have been reading comics since the 70’s and this does not look like any speech bubbles I see. I stand to be corrected but what makes you think this is British style?

And the James Bond character is based on Connery and M on Bernard Lee, so how can you state it is not based on the film?

Brian from Canada

August 20, 2010 at 3:53 pm

Can anyone tell me when the British Classics Illustrated version of Dr. No was made? Because, as far as I’ve read it, Connery was the second choice for the film after Roger Moore — and Fleming wasn’t too sure about Connery as Bond until he visited the set for Dr. No.

If you think Dr. No adapts poorly, go find Marvel’s comic-book tie-in of Xanadu.

The Classics Illustrated version went on sale around the time of the film’s UK premiere in October 1962, so the artist would probably not have had access to a lot of stills for reference, even if they wanted to or were allowed to base it on the film (hence, the “based on the screenplay” descriptions).

In terms of the devolution device, the fact that the crocodile becomes a T-Rex is a sure sign that this was written about 40 years before Bakker’s THE DINOSAUR HERESIES was published…

Joe Staton never gets enough credit for his work as an artist, much less as a character designer. He created E-Man, Huntress, the Omega Men, a bunch of the odder alien members of the GL Corps including Kilowog, and (as this entry clarifies) he designed Guy Gardner’s very distinctive costume. Glad to see one of his major contributions to the DCU get spotlighted here.

aww, I always liked that Guy Gardner costume! Surely more visually interesting than everybody in skintight spandex-syle unitards.

Wowie, DEVO legends! I never thought about that, that WW had the de-evolution ray. One of my favorite DEVO lines is from an interview they did with William S Burroughs — “we’re fed by things we hate”.

Are there any other comics/punk things you could cover sometime? I can’t think of any right off, but given the CBGB comic coming out, it seems it would be a good time. David Byrne took his look from Clark Kent (I just made that one up, btw)

I think I’d heard that the Bond Showcase issue was originally a Classic Comics book, but that brings up interesting questions. Why were they adapting, as you put it here, the screenplay of a movie? It’d be odd enough if they were adapting the book (since it wasn’t really a “classic” yet), but the screenplay? If they were doing the screenplay, wouldn’t they know Connery was the star, so even if they didn’t have stills from Dr No, you’d think they’d have photo ref from something else he’d done, and therefore that’s why it looks basically like him. Strange. And if DC had the option for a while, wouldn’t the producers have pushed them to do something while Connery was Bond (if I understand you right, DC had the option for quite a while, and did nothing with it, so apparently no one else could either. I guess comics adaptations just weren’t big money makers)

And I was going to point out that Staton also worked at First with Chaykin, so it’s likely there was cross-pollination with Guy’s costume. Forgot he’d done some issues of Flagg.

…Brian, I can also confirm Gerald V’s story about how Wonder Woman helped influence the first stages of Devolution. A follower of the band since Q: Are We Not Men? was released, I finally got the chance to interview Jerry in early 1984 just after Oh No! It’s DEVO!, and he relayed essentially the same story as the 1978 article did. When I and two other good friends met Mark Mothersbaugh and David Kendrick – former Sparks drummer and Alan Myers’ replacement, prior to Josh Friese – back in 1989, Mark told the story again during our bullshit session while playing pinball before the show, and it was actually the first time David had heard the story even though he’d been with the band almost two years and one album!

Patty LuPone is “mostly known” for the original Broadway version of EVITA. (No, not the “original version”, the original =Broadway= version.) I have no idea how many people remember her from a minor family-pandering “drama” that aired in most of the US during NFL overflow time (when nobody was watching ABC) and in which she was largely a background character, but it’s not nearly as many.

Sadly, Devo is probably “mostly known” by nobody.

“prior to Josh Friese”

I think Wikipedia has a macro for that phrase so it can be quickly inserted in every punk band’s lineup history…

Silver Age DC Bond comics would have rocked. The art on that Showcase is pretty spot on, even Bernard Lee’s “M” is rendered faithfully down to a “T” from here. Wish DC had hired the CI artist who did this issue for some other stuff.

The Wonder Woman story reads like some kind of whacked-out acid trip. The bizarre debut of Giganta, Steve Trevor acting as one bloodthirsty SOB, a Hippie scientist, and lots of S&M activity scattered throughout. What a crazy comic for the 1940’s!

Loved Guy’s re-introduction to the DCU, though. And I’ve always dug his costume, especially the vest and turtleneck.

Suddenly, I am wondering if Mike Judge was inspired by Devo when he made the movie Idiocracy.

@salamurai: You aren’t the only one. I’m surprised by the hate for that costume here. The costume is ridiculous, but first “post-Crisis” GG so well.

Everytime I see a Wonder Woman from the Golden Age it amazes the kind of stuff that Marston and his artist were able to slip in without anyone noticing.

I forgot to add to my list of un-PC moments in the Giganta story how Giganta would not accept being part of group led by a woman (despite being a though female herself.) But that was likely intentional, since she’s the villain and likely would be shown to be on the wrong later.

Omar Karindu, with the power of SUPER-hypocrisy!

August 21, 2010 at 7:27 am

@ykw: Compare the number of people who follow Broadway shows and the number of people who watch TV shows and see which is bigger.

To me, with the thick after ski boots and parka jacket, it always seemed like Guy Gardner was going to fight some villians on Hoth or in Aspen. With his bowl haircut, he would have been a good backup to Jim Carrey for Dumb and Dumber, which was set in,,,,, Aspen! Ahhhhh, California,,,,

and finally, something that combines one of my favorite bands from high school and comics! Believe me, there is a richer history than just “Whip it” and a “bizarre video”. Go to youtube or google, search for “the Day my Baby gave me a surprize” and prepare to be amazed by the great music and imaginative video!

Ed, preach it brother. My late Uncle gave me “Oh No, It’s Devo” as a gift the year it came out and I played it until it could not be played anymore. The refrain from “Peek a Boo” (Laugh if you want to, or say you don’t care. If you cannot see it, you think it’s not there. It doesn’t work that way) has become my personal philosophy.

That’s CLEARLY intended to look like Sean Connery in the Bond comic. I have no idea why you would think it wasn’t.

Square or rectangular speech balloons are commonly used in Franco-Belgian comics. In my experience most British comics use the same type of rounded speech balloons as American comics.

“I think Wikipedia has a macro for that phrase so it can be quickly inserted in every punk band’s lineup history…”

…There probably is.. However, there’s probably a bot out there written by some catamite sock puppeted admin that goes and strips it back out. As the Ron Marz article proves, there’s too many of the wrong people with admin rights running the joint not to promote article accuracy and quality, but to ride as big an ego trip as they can get away with.

“My late Uncle gave me “Oh No, It’s Devo” as a gift the year it came out and I played it until it could not be played anymore.”

…I did the same thing with New Traditionalists and the three albums prior to that. The only other albums that I burned through like that were Never Mind The Bollocks, Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. Those were also the first albums I bought when I switched from vinyl to CD, with the DEVO albums coming first.

…On a side note, if you haven’t checked out the Spudboys’ newest album, you’re denying your ears and your genes a real treat. An album actually designed through group focus sessions is something not to be missed !

You gotta love the Devil’s D-Evolution list. World war and cock fighting…tax and toil…slavery AND white slavery…alcohol…idiocy…and pre-natal murder (that’s abortion, people!).

“3- It turns out that gorillas have their own language… making them SENTIENT, which would have made killing her murder!”

Serious misunderstanding of the concept of sentience.

Sentience doesn’t mean “having one’s own language.”

sentient
Main Entry: sen·tient
Pronunciation: \?sen(t)-sh(?-)?nt, ?sen-t?-?nt\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin sentient-, sentiens, present participle of sentire to perceive, feel
Date: 1632

1 : responsive to or conscious of sense impressions
2 : aware
3 : finely sensitive in perception or feeling

Pretty much all vertebrates animals are sentient, and a fair amount of invertebrates (certainly cephalopods, many if not all arthropods,d scientific evidence would suggest also worms, and likely others).

Some other animals are less likely to be sentient– sponges are an obvious example.

That said, while gorillas may not have a language of their own, they have demonstrated an advanced ability to learn and use language:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_%28gorilla%29

Furthermore, with rare exceptions like Michael Leahy, ethicists do not consider capacity to use language as a morally relevant characteristic.

Utilitarian philosopher Jeremy Bentham famously refuted the notion that our moral duties towards nonhuman animals in 1789 in “Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation””

“The day has been, I am sad to say in many places it is not yet past, in which the greater part of the species, under the denomination of slaves, have been treated by the law exactly upon the same footing, as, in England for example, the inferior races of animals are still. The day may come when the rest of the animal creation may acquire those rights which never could have been witholden from them but by the hand of tyranny. The French have already discovered that the blackness of the skin is no reason a human being should be abandoned without redress to the caprice of a tormentor. It may one day come to be recognised that the number of the legs, the villosity of the skin, or the termination of the os sacrum are reasons equally insufficient for abandoning a sensitive being to the same fate. What else is it that should trace the insuperable line? Is it the faculty of reason or perhaps the faculty of discourse? But a full-grown horse or dog, is beyond comparison a more rational, as well as a more conversable animal, than an infant of a day or a week or even a month, old. But suppose the case were otherwise, what would it avail? The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer? [20]”

Modern utilitarian philosopher Peter Singer, author of Animal Liberation, the book credited by some with launching the modern animal rights movement , draws heavily on Bentham’s articulation of the morally relevant characteristics of nonhuman animals in Animal Liberation and other writings:

All Animals Are Equal
http://www.animal-rights-library.com/texts-m/singer02.htm

The Animal Liberation Movement
http://www.utilitarian.org/texts/alm.html

Other philosophers, like Tom Regan, have gone furtrher than Singer, in some regards (arguing more fulling that killing animals, as opposed to merely causing them suffering, is immoral), but have suggested that to be granted rights animals must meet a more rigorous set of criterion than established by Singer:

The Case for Animal Rights by Tom Regan
http://web.archive.org/web/20070202093631/http://articles.animalconcerns.org/ar-voices/archive/case_for_ar.html

Still others, like legal and ethical theorist Gary Francione apply criterion similar to Singer’s, but draw more draw conclusions that go further than either SInger or Regan:

Introduction to Animals Rights: Your Child or Your Dog?
http://snipurl.com/introfran

Maybe you mean that Bond doesn’t look like Sean Connery on the “cover” of the comic? That I agree with. But as for those interior pages, it looks “exactly” like Connery, so much so that the artist must’ve been using photos of Connery for reference.

“Wow, I really want to know what’s going on with that Adventure Comics cover. The Enchantress, Dumb Bunny, Babs, Donna, Dinah, Harlequin AND Merry, Girl of 1000 Gimmicks? I suspect they’re not really all in the comic, but that’s a pretty awesome assemblage.”
Supergirl, Black Canary, Wonder Woman & Cheetah, Merry, and Phantom Lady are represented inside!
It’s a 100-Page Giant!
NO Frackin’ Ads!
And it’s a wraparound cover! There are even MORE heroines (and a villainess) on the back! HawkGirl! Thorn! Tina! Zatanna! Big Barda! Beautiful Dreamer! Star Sapphire! and Lilith, who’s half on front, half on back! Curiously, Catwoman didn’t make the cut!
You’ll find the lineup and complete wraparound cover here… http://supergirlthemaidofmight.blogspot.com/2009/10/dc-100-page-super-spectacular-vol-1-10.html

Geez, I left out Liberty Belle! Gotta get some sleep…

Catwoman wasn’t considered a hero, or even anti-hero, back then. She was still a Batman villain.

Mykalel, neither were Cheetah and Star Sapphire good guys at the time.

Pity the 1976 Ibanez Destroyer that had its sides sawn off for that Devo guitar!

@Adam Weissman- yes, I was aware that “sentient” wasn’t the *strictly* correct term, but I was afraid if I said “sapience” people would not understand what I meant, and I didn’t feel like going so as far as explaining the difference. But thanks for doing it for me anyway.

Bring back Alf Tupper!

Count me in as another person who loved Guy’s vest and turtleneck (and the buckles on his gloves). It really stood out from the rest of the skintight spandex and it was cool to see “real clothes” turned into a superhero costume. The boots always looked a bit goofy, I’ll concede that point.

Amusing to think that Wonder Woman was dealing with evolution – even through a somewhat simplistic view – back in the ’40s, and yet we’re still arguing whether it should be taught in schools.

I’m sad to say ‘Whip It’ is the only song and video of Devo I’ve seen. Of course where I live we didn’t get MTV until 1991.

Those old WW stories are awesome!

But….ummmm…is it just me, or does Giganta have nipples in the panel where Wonder Woman is holding her while she’s still tied up? I’m just wondering if this was actually in the book, because it almost looks like someone drew on the comic with ink pen to add them.

Man, Guy Gardners costume had a lot of belt buckles on it. A LOT.

It reminds me of the costume fellow GL Kyle Rayner had a few years ago, designed by Jim Lee IIRC. That one also had a lot of buckles for whatever reason…

Okay, while Guy Gardner’s original costume doesn’t really stand the test of time, I feel compelled to defend it and say that in no way is it as busy and full of unnecessary buckles, bells, whistles and silly detailing as a Jim Lee costume. ANY Jim Lee costume. That’s just harsh. I only count 5 buckles for the whole costume. Jim Lee’s Kyle Rayner suit had 8 buckles in the BOOTS alone. Then all those weird designs going down the sleeves and legs of the outfit.

Also, in Staton’s defense, the original design for Guy doesn’t seem to be as bowl-cut-ariffic in the hair department as it originally became. I think maybe later artists came along and overdid the bowl cut.

Oops, last comment was me. And second to last sentence should read “the original design for Guy doesn’t seem to be as bowl-cut-ariffic in the hair department as it LATER became.”

‘Suddenly, I am wondering if Mike Judge was inspired by Devo when he made the movie Idiocracy.’

I’m pretty sure he was inspired by ‘The Marching Morons’.

“OM” is right on the Ron Mars article on Wikipedia. Some loser admin calling himself “Nightscream” has removed any and all entries from the article on Marz that discuss all the negative criticism over “Emerald Twilight”. If you check his user page, you find he’s an aspiring comic book artist, and appears to be a friend of Marz, and not above banning anyone who tries to fix the article so it tells the truth.

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RE: Guy Gardner’s costume

It is easy to look back and laugh about Guy’s threads, but keep in mind that this was in 1985. About half the people walking down an average city street at that time were dressed way more ridiculous than Guy was. If anything, his outfit was conservative.

Not sure why you haven’t changed the “sort of” yet. Not only does Bond look like Connery, all the supporting characters look like the actors who played them. I actually think they must have at least had stills of the film, because the photographer is even in the same cross-armed odd body position she takes in the movie. As are things like Moneypenny and Bond face to face, and the dead girl. It’s actually one of the MOST spot on adaptations for likenesses I’ve seen in a comic film adaptation.

And I think Daniel has another myth for you….while I can easily see how one can fill in the blanks with their imagination, that certainly LOOKS like nipples as WW is carrying her. If they’re just ink blotches, they’re perfectly placed.

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