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Random Thoughts! (September 21, 2010)

Random Thought! I’m running out of room for my comics. Sure, it’s a problem, but it’s one of those really good problems. The problems I like dealing with. I don’t get many of that kind, sadly. It’s random thoughts time! Get excited!

Link Thought! GraphiContent for comics. butterbeatleblog for popculture.

Random Thought! If I were to do “Captain America: The End,” I would base it on “Catch Me Now I’m Falling” by the Kinks.

Random Thought! Burning CDs! Hell yes! Music on the stereo is always better than music on the computer. One of the CDs includes the out-of-print/not available for sale soundtrack to Where the Buffalo Roam, featuring some Neil Young… AND Bill Murray briefly singing part of “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.” I also included on that CD, the Neil Young live version of “A Day in the Life” I mentioned last week. Plus, go listen to the upcoming Le Noise by Young!

Random Thought! I was disappointed with The Unwritten #17… and still gave it 3.5 stars on CBR. I loved the ambition, but thought the execution just didn’t follow up. Where it went wrong for me was trying to continue the story of the book instead of simply focusing on Lizzie Hexam and her various pasts for the entire issue. There are really only two main paths — the ones leading to the ‘false’ ending are short and only really occur twice. The rest all eventually lead to Tom Taylor and Savoy in the present, at which point it becomes a regular comic… except with a lot of flipping around. I found that disappointing. Maybe that’s unfair… Still, the ‘Choose Your Own Adventure’ aspect only lasting for the first third or so feels like a cheat; same with only two basic paths. I would have liked to see a few endings for the issue, the kind that are more ambiguous about which one fits best into The Unwritten‘s larger story, leaving the idea of Lizzie Hexam more in flux and making us choose from some more radically different choices instead of subtle variations…

Random Thought! The Tom/Savoy stuff is good and I like the ultimate point of the issue, though. Remember, 3.5 stars! That’s a good rating. My mind just goes to the negatives more easily.

Random Thought! I don’t hate Scoop like most people, but I do want to see Woody Allen act in another one of his movies. One final fantastic performance in a great film to go out on…

Random Thought! Prison Pit Book Two? Funny as fuck. The dedication and single-mindedness reminds me of the Crank flicks.

Random Thought! The heavy, dark mood of Thor: For Asgard is really winning me over. It feels like the End Times are coming to Asgard. Just bad vibes, harsh violence, and a general sense of Everything Is Wrong. It’s turning out to be a pretty good Thor comic that makes good use of the Marvel Knights imprint.

Random Thought! Steve Harvey now hosts Family Feud. He doesn’t appear too bad. Still getting used to it, but he’s got his own style. He doesn’t take it too seriously and seems relaxed, able to joke around, have a little fun. I really like John O’Hurley, but this is a surprising-but-good replacement choice. (Plus, on one of the episodes I watched, there was a pregnant woman who had a nametag for the baby on her belly. How adorable/cute/awesome is that?)

Random Thought! No Splash Page Podcast this past week because Tim has The Sickness. We return on Friday.

Random Thought! I would love to see Christian Dibari, the artist of the just-completed-mini Pale Horse for BOOM!, do an issue of Scalped. He has the right style — is perhaps a little unpolished in some areas, but could definitely fit right in on that book.

Random Thought! I really have no opinion on that new Heroes for Hire book by DnA in December. Doesn’t appeal to me, but it doesn’t seem like a bad idea either. Just not my thing.

Random Thought! Quote of the week: “There is no sensible in comics fandom these days.” — Graeme “McMillion$”

Random Thought! Wildstorm appears to be dead. Mixed feelings. Of course, I’m sorry for anyone whose job is lost as a result. I also have a nostalgic feeling of loss with Wildstorm gone. But, as I’ve said before, I’ve long been disappointed with Wildstorm’s output aside from the odd project here and there. There was that period where the imprint led the way and it’s since become… well, something no one even notices until its doors are shut. That’s a shame. They really tried hard to get things back on track and renew interest, but nothing caught on. There’s an interesting story in the history of Wildstorm at DC.

Random Thought! Rereading the above… is there any way to discuss things like this when they happen without seeming like a heartless jerk about the lives actually affected by these business decisions? I always worry about that.

Random Thought! Then again, I look at my bookshelves (and stacks of trades and comics and boxes of comics) and, man, there are a lot of Wildstorm comics in this apartment. The vast majority written by Warren Ellis and Joe Casey, but a decent amount outside of their outputs, too. Dammit.

Random Thought! That said, what was the last book from Wildstorm that I genuinely loved? I’m currently buying The X-Files/30 Days of Night for the girlfriend… I dropped The Authority: The Lost Year. Sparta, USA? But, before that… Brian Azzarello’s Deathblow, perhaps? Did Desolation Jones release any issues after that book ended? I haven’t read recent Astro City stuff, though. Hell, look at how many of those are creator-owned titles, not Wildstorm books…

Random Thought! Oh, and DV8: Gods and Monsters… of course.

Random Thought! The Wildstorm Universe titles fold into the DCU banner easily since that’s one of the 52 worlds, right? Through a ‘Wildstorm’ banner on the books ala ‘First Wave’ and treat them the same. Hell, I’d follow the ‘First Wave’ pattern to relaunch the books. Get a popular/critically acclaimed writer to relaunch it in a single series, spin a couple of titles out of it… then again, has ‘First Wave’ been a success?

Random Thought! Then it occurs to me… what are the odds of seeing Michael Cray in a ‘First Wave’ book? He may actually fit there…

Random Thought! Small week for comics for me. Only getting five comics. Two of those are for reviewing-purposes only, so it would be three comics this week were I not reviewing stuff for CBR. And, out of those three, I’m reviewing two of them, too. So, one comic for personal use only. That said, the three comics I’m buying for me (Avengers, Secret Avengers, and Thor) are all ones that I’m excited to read, so that’s a big plus on a small week.

Random Thought! In honour of top five month, I’ll end each random thoughts post this month with my own top five list…

Top Five Avengers Brian Michael Bendis Added to the Team

5. Captain America (James Barnes): Ed Brubaker putting this character in the costume may be the cause of his involvement with the Avengers, but I’ve enjoyed Bendis’s take on the character and using him as a contrast to the other heroes. With his background in the military and black ops, he has a harder, different take on how to handle supervillains and runs into a wall at times when the others aren’t sure what to make of him. Favourite moment: Cap uses a gun to take down Madame Masque without killing her.

4. Ares: The god of war joined the Mighty Avengers before sticking around for the Dark Avengers. He was described as both the former team’s Thor and Wolverine, and that’s a good mix. Huge, violent, direct in his thinking, he quickly became the hero that stood for everyone blinded by Norman Osborn’s false promises and, as such, was the one to pay the price. Favourite moment: Ares shrinks down to go inside Ultron.

3. Spider-Woman: I’m still not convinced that Spider-Woman being the Skrull Queen paid off like Bendis wanted (especially the aftermath), but her triple-agent lifestyle (actually more than that once you include the Skrull Queen stuff) made her stand out and have her own story outside of just the Avengers. She could work within the established plots or bring something to the table herself. She also fits the long tradition of heroes who needed a home and a family finding that in the Avengers. Favourite moment: I was going to say the Civil War issue of New Avengers where she goes to Cap and company, lost, looking for something, but since that was the Skrull Queen, I’ll go with her breaking free of Mandrill’s mind control.

2. The Sentry: A lot of people don’t like the Sentry, but he served a purpose in Bendis’s Avengers work. Like Ares, he acted as a legitimising force for Osborn’s Avengers, while also fitting in more. He was the X factor — you never knew if he was going to show up and help, or if he was going to go crazy and kill everyone. That walking on eggshells idea is a good one and it didn’t play out as well as it could have — mostly, I think, because Bendis tried to make the Sentry’s history too complicated — but I liked the general thrust of what Bendis did. Favourite moment: the Sentry and Norman Osborn’s heart-to-heart conversation.

1. Luke Cage: You’ll note that neither Jessica Jones nor Iron Fist show up on this list and that’s because they seem to be part of the Avengers as an extension of Luke Cage’s involvement. Once Civil War happened, Cage became the defacto leader/focus of New Avengers and emobodies the lower key feel of the title with the strong morals and beliefs. More than any other character that Bendis has tried to ‘redeem/improve/whatever,’ Cage has definitely become a more important and respected hero as a result. Part of me can’t imagine an Avengers team without him anymore. He’s been the ‘everyman’ of the group and the guy we’ve seen grow into the role. Favourite moment: After making a deal with Norman Osborn to find his daughter, Cage turns around and goes back on it, because fuck Norman Osborn.

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Random Comments! I love your comments. All of them. Even the ones I hate. Because I love hate. Hating is fun. On to your comments that I hate.

Neil Kapit said: I would have picked Black Summer over No Hero, because I don’t think No Hero became more complex as the story went on. I think it became unpleasantly nihilistic towards the end, when it was basically revealed that every character was either a ruling-class conspirator or a governmental tool whose ideals were just conditioning. In Black Summer you could at least understand the perspectives of the characters, however extreme their actions were.

No Hero had two ideas that I found interesting and could be unpacked in more detail, while Black Summer ultimately seemed a rebuff to the influence of The Authority — a simple but GOOD idea. The ideas I liked from No Hero were: 1) What happens when a monster, someone who doesn’t think like a ‘normal’ human, is given superpowers. This idea leads well into Supergod and isn’t new, but is definitely one worth exploring in greater detail. 2) The fallout of removing the secret rulers of the world and the innate stupidity of governments. The world of No Hero was a functioning dictatorship, one that worked so well that no one knew it even was a dictatorship, and, when the dictators were removed, the world collapsed. It’s a rebuffing of most Western political ideals and something I’d like to see in more detail. I found Black Summer‘s conclusion simpler in that I didn’t want to see it expanded upon, made into a larger work necessarily, while No Hero had two concepts that could easily be expanded and explored. For me, at least.

Tom Fitzpatrick said: What about Freak Angels from Avatar Press? I know that it’s a on-going Web-comic, but the trades are published every 24th strip. Does that count?

It counts. I really enjoy it. Let’s say that it was number six.

Dude Hey said: Ignition City not being mentioned is a goddamn travesty. Also, I’ll miss Greek Street. In 50 years when everyone realizes what a genius Peter Milligan is, “random thoughts” like that will look hilarious.

I liked Ignition City, but thought those other works were better. Ellis has had a pretty strong body of work at Avatar. And, Greek Street began as a mediocre comic with potential, began to get better, went off on a tangent that didn’t pay off, and has two issues to wrap it all up. It never reached that ‘genius’ level that Milligan’s work has in the past. I really like Milligan’s work, but if you don’t think he can be very hit or miss at times, you haven’t been paying attention. I’ve gotten every issue of Greek Street and it never hit a good stride. Too spread thin, too slow… it had some nice moments and, like I said, seemed to be getting on the right track in the second storyarc, but it squandered its time… I’ll see what I think when I reread the series prior to the final issue coming out.

That’s it for this week. Thanks for reading. Later.

29 Comments

Catch Me Now I’m Falling is fantastic, but extremely depressing. I listened to it hundreds of times before sitting down and hearing the lyrics. Can’t believe it was written 35 years ago and not yesterday.

I still think the Captain America Universe X issue is a wonderful end for the character.

Regarding the Kinks song and Cap: The End, I’ve had the same though.

Agreed with Philip on the Universe X issue. I’ve always felt that way and have never found anyone else who’s ever agreed with me.

Totally agreed on the Unwritten issue. It would have actually been a pretty good issue even without all the choose your own adventure stuff. But I found myself getting very annoyed by having to flip around, because by the last two-thirds of the book there were no choice points. And the choice points they did have didn’t really lead anywhere. So what was the point of making us flip through again?

The book did serve to remind me how much I used to love the Choose Your Own Adventure books as a kid. I should really try to track some of those down one of these days. I also wonder if it would be possible to pull off an actual good novel, with some literary merit, in the choose your own adventure style. In some ways, I’m surprised no way has done it yet (or if they have, I’m not aware of it). It seems like a perfectly fine postmodern device to build a novel around, but maybe there would be some problems with the execution of it that I’m not seeing.

Also, yes, Thor: For Asgard is very good. In fact, Thor may be the single character with the best group of titles at the moment. The main book has been good with Gillen at the helm, and Fraction’s run starts this month. For Asgard is good. And Thor: The Mighty Avenger is one of the best superhero comics being published at the moment. Not to mention the fact that Bendis’ “Avengers” title, which also features Thor, isn’t too shabby.

Agreed on “The Unwritten.” It didn’t fully live up to its promise in terms of the “choose your own adventure” aspect. But it still played with comic-book form, and it was entertaining to read (and beautifully drawn). I, too, would’ve preferred Lizzie’s past to remain shrouded in multiple possibilities.

Oh, you hate-able person, you. Do you hate all equally? Or do you indiscriminate hate specifically?

Go forth, and hate some more. ;-)

I’m wondering when did they say the end of Wildstorm will end. Cause I have DV8: Gods and Monsters, X-files/30 days of night, and Fringe to finish off first. Can they wait?

December is the last month of Wildstorm, I believe. Meaning that it lasted 12 years at DC since it began January 1999.

Hey, when are you going to finish your analysis of Morrison’s third Bat-year? Not meaning to sound snarky, I just am curious as I really liked your essays on the first two years. And as this is a truly random comment, I figured this was the appropriate place to ask.

I too am running out of room for my comics. The wife is not amused.

Prison Pit 2 was a holy experience. 3 words which will stay with me forever: Operation Rape Ladydactyl

Thanks for responding re: the Ellis Avatar series, Chad. I agree that Black Summer is a simpler idea, but I think it was executed much better than No Hero, which was much more obvious in showing the author’s hand. I didn’t really get the illusion that I was in the story with No Hero, nor did I feel like the story was deftly interacting with my expectations ( since it descended into sledge-hammer subtlety towards the end ).

Also, I like Bucky Cap as an Avenger, but for entirely different reasons. I don’t think that Bucky’s black ops experience comes into play in New Avengers or the new (old?) Avengers book. Instead, he comes across as an insecure kid finally sitting at the grown-ups’ table. Several of the scenes Bendis writes with Bucky make him really awkward, like whining about being called ” Bucky Cap “, repeatedly apologizing for getting Steve’s apartment blown up, or forgetting that Thor has no idea who this new Cap is. Since Brubaker’s book gives us troubled ex-assassin Bucky, it’s good to see a somewhat different take in the Avengers.

funkygreenjerusalem

September 21, 2010 at 6:00 pm

Hell, I’d follow the ‘First Wave’ pattern to relaunch the books. Get a popular/critically acclaimed writer to relaunch it in a single series, spin a couple of titles out of it… then again, has ‘First Wave’ been a success?

I don’t think First Wave has been a success, and it’s probably because they didn’t have a pattern like you said.

They launched a mini by a name creator, but before it was finished, launched several other series.

They drowned the imprint in books before there was even the slightest bit of demand.

It’s the same dumb move they are doing right across comics now – a mad dash for market share, not understanding that sustainability trumps quick profits, and that sustainability takes time.

They need to get back to lines forming from books the market wants, not someone in editorial deciding their should be a line.

Vertigo wasn’t around until after there were several books going in a similar direction – then they made a line out of existing popular titles.
Same with Marvel Knights, and same with any imprint/line that wasn’t a failure.

I skimmed most of your column, so obviously you aren’t writing about things that interest me.

What’s up with that?

Please take some time and consideration to consider what I would want to read about.

Sincerely,

Lonny Bohonos III

So what was your favourite moment for Spider-Woman?

There’s going to be a new heroes For Hire? Is it a continuation of the Civil War version? It doesn’t seem likely that they would be doing a good, old-style Luke Cage Heroes For Hire, since he’s already busy with two teams. Or are they planning something completely new, in which case, why should they bother to call it Heroes For Hire?

Ooops, too much jumping around between sections. Favourite moment added.

My favourite would’ve been New Avengers #15, but that wasn’t her either. (I was kind of hurt when I found out Bendis had been lying to us through all of that.)

I’m sorry. I meant #14.

If you’re running out of room for comics …
You know what that means ….?

It’s E-BAY TIME!!!!!

Is the plan on Wildstorm just to shutter the whole studio, Malibu-style, or are some/all of the characters going to make the jump to the DCU? Not that I really have strong feelings either way. Given how the whole Milestone thing seem to last about a coupla months, I suspect most of the characters are going away in any event. Sad news, though. There was a while there, when they had Ellis, Casey, and Alan Moore putting out regular books, that it was arguably the highest quality imprint in comics.

For something of a choose your own adventure done in comics, look for Jason Shiga’s Meanwhile. It’s a pretty neat book.

I too have no room for comics. It’s depressing, but not the most depressing thing for me right now.

And I’m going to Ithacon Saturday, so I’ll be getting even more comics. I’m a g-d junky. (That’s a Burroughs style junkie, man)

Wildstorm: Wasn’t Ex Machina a Wildstorm title? Were you not reading that?

If you write 6-7 paragraphs in a row on Wildstorm, are they really random thoughts? ;-)

What will happen with the Wildstorm trades? Will they still be available? There are still quite a few titles that interest me.

Hm…how to segway myself into the conversation about Black Summer? By impolitely and directly iterating my point of view in full Internet tradition!(for which I appologise).

I found most of Warren Ellis’s comics for Avatar, especially Black Summer, Doktor Sleepless and No Hero to mold themselvs over plots and concepts established by Alan Moore, twisting and even parodying them. To what end I canoot say. Maybe he is just lazy and needs a plot structure to dump data over, or maybe he is trying to corrode the status of god-writer that Alan Moore still holds. Or maybe, they both derive their ideas from a common source that I am too ignorant to find for myself.

This being said, I find Black Summer to be built on such a parody of Watchmen(with a little bit of JLA mixed in), where the enstranged god-like superhero does not flee Earth, but tries to change it. I also found it to be a criticism on the war in Iraq, where the goverment pits the indoctrinated army(and people) against an exagerrated threath. I also thought it was a response to Millar’s Civil War(other that the fact that some people also have seen in Civil War a criticism of the war in Iraq, and Ellis’ attacks on Millar in Nextwave, there are some stuff in the description in #0 pointing to this), at what point the rebuffing of his Wildstorm years that you point out, becomes more apparent. But I don’t think it’s a rejection of what he was saying then, but more of Ellis saying that you shouldn’t mix the realism that if injected into superhero comics nowadays(especially at Marvel), whit his attitude in The Authority. He acknowledges that the series was mostly about kicking God in the face, and not making sensible arguments about the morality of the superhero.

“Random Thought! The Wildstorm Universe titles fold into the DCU banner easily since that’s one of the 52 worlds, right?”
It’s Earth-50.
“Through a ‘Wildstorm’ banner on the books ala ‘First Wave’ and treat them the same. Hell, I’d follow the ‘First Wave’ pattern to relaunch the books. Get a popular/critically acclaimed writer to relaunch it in a single series, spin a couple of titles out of it… then again, has ‘First Wave’ been a success?”
I’m pretty sure that’s what they’ll do. It would be stupid to put them in the main continuity.

No wrestling Chad? Miz, Daniel Bryan, Orton, Nash, Mickie James, and McIntyre getting a belt…. lol I know you are just ready to explode with opinions…. Speaking of wrestling…

Wildstorm being folded into DC reminds me so much of ECW and WWE it isn’t funny… For all the dual entertainment fans just think about it…eerily parallel

Man I want to like this new Heroes for Hire lineup , but all I can think about is how “big events” killed off their last iteration right as I was really enjoying their stories as almost the Marvel version of Birds of Prey.

After reading Secret Avengers, I am left saying huh? And thinking that’s a good thing….

Travis – look forward to seeing you Ithacon on Saturday! Love to hear what you think of of my Captain Action/Zeroids and Savage Beauty comics.

oops- typos. Forgot “at” and meant a comma, instead of the slash. It’s been a long week…

I definitely agree on Luke Cage. I started reading NA during the terrible Collective arc and was planning on dropping the book after CW until I read the Luke Cage spotlight.

Well, crap, now I gotta say hi to Ed Catto tomorrow.

Travis-
Great to meet you Saturday. Thanks for saying hi and I hope you had a great time the Ithacon. I sure did.
Best,
Ed

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