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Comic Critics #142!

Here is the latest installment of the Comic Critics strip, courtesy of Sean Whitmore (writer) and Brandon Hanvey (artist)! You can check out the first hundred and forty-one strips at the archive here and you can read more about Sean and Brandon at the Comic Critics blog.

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21 Comments

Now that is funny

Funny? Smallville = 1/3 of my lifespan…that may have just blown my mind.

interesting. it took a conversasion about the walking dead tv show and Josh starts to relize he has wound up spending a third of his life span making the same arguments about the walking dead varrying from the source about all things small ville. did not figure josh would ever be a fan. in the comic critic world.

Yeah, I’m shocked Josh would ever defend Smallville. Struck me as the type to just bash it, not alternate between bashing and defending it.

“….whether anything less than a word-for-word recitation of the comic can be a faithful adaptation.”

That brilliantly and concisely sums up adapting comics (or books, for that matter) to movie or television. I, for one, am not entertained when I’m just seeing something acted out that I’ve already read. So I enjoyed the Kick-Ass movie, but I didn’t enjoy reading it as much because I saw the movie first, and the movie was (by and large) a pretty faithful play-by-play of the book (although I thought the movie fleshed out the characters a bit more).

I think that those who make movies and tv shows should resign themselves that they can’t please everyone. Some folks want a word-for-word performance, others like me just want a good-but-unique movie or television show based on the characters.

It’s interesting to compare with Japan. In Japan, for the most part, animes are word for word adaptations of the original manga, and if the anime catches up to the manga, they just do some filler episodes so that the manga can get some lead time again, then they go right back to doing word for word adaptations of the comic.

I wonder if part of that has to do with Japan being more collectivist and America being more a cult of individuality where people feel the need to make a personal stamp on everything.

Is it possible that a higher percentage of the population read the manga than read comics here in America so there are potentially more people to “offend”? I would guess that networks here could care less about the 90k a month Superman readers and are going for the teen drama audience.

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The problem with the Walking Dead TV show was less that it didn’t follow the comic and more that it had some painful dialog, bad pacing, and didn’t resolve its own plot points. The CDC episode was potentially the series finale, and it resolved 0 open plot threads. Even as a season finale it failed pretty miserably. The producers didn’t seem to know how to pace the show for a 6 episode season/miniseries, and it ended up feeling more like a prologue for the next season than as an effective story unto itself.

I treated Walking Dead as if it were actually a prologue. Theres a lot of set up for next season.

Smallville lasted longer than my relationship with my ex-fiance.

Suddenly I have a sense of time and proportion.

There was no way the CDC episode was going to the be series finale. The show’s premiere had the highest ratings in the channel’s history. If the premiere had tanked, I’d bet that the ending would have gone down differently.

That said, there are certainly some legitimate flaws with show — heavy reliance on cliches, for one, but that’s also true of the comic — but overall I found it worth an hour a week. Whether or not it’s fair/a good idea to leave your season dangling with so much unresolved is open to debate, but it’s not like it’s never going to address any of it.

funkygreenjerusalem

December 16, 2010 at 4:06 pm

The jokes not getting old, if anything, getting funnier, but seriously guys, whose going to admit to being Chad?

re: Walking Dead, its hard to say that it definitely wouldn’t have been a series finale, the CDC episode was definitely filmed before the premier. My friend that lives near that building here in Atlanta mentioned that he saw the filming as he was driving home. I suppose they could have just reshot it if the premier tanked though, but I doubt it.

Yeah, I feel old too thinking Smallville’s been on that long. Yikes. I don’t even watch it.

Marissa looks odd from behind.

FGJ, the scary thing is that I don’t think Chad IS a joke. He posts elsewhere too in the same manner. Egads.

I dug Walking Dead, but I’ve only read the first issue. I thought the show made that issue even better with fleshing out Lennie James’s character (don’t tell me if he comes back in the comic! Damn spoilers!)

If you want a show that overreached and thought that it’d get a second season so didn’t explain a DAMN thing, check out Happy Town. If you can still find the last 2 eps online, since the ratings sucked so hard, they didn’t even air the last 2 eps on TV. I got to the end of the last ep going, there’s just 5 minutes left, 2 minutes left, RESOLVE SOMETHING! And then they did and I yelled at the screen.

Walking Dead has Frank Darabont, for godssake. Even if the ratings HADN’T been so damn good they would have probably given him at least a second 6 ep season.

Oh, and just the right amount of panels, so everyone knows.

I always assumed that Chad was about 12 years old or something. No harm in his posts.

And yeah, nothing about the Walking Dead seems good.

“It’s interesting to compare with Japan. In Japan, for the most part, animes are word for word adaptations of the original manga, and if the anime catches up to the manga, they just do some filler episodes so that the manga can get some lead time again, then they go right back to doing word for word adaptations of the comic.”

Well that’s not true in that it’s definitely not “for the most part”, It’s more of an exception for an anime to be a completely faithful adaptation plus fillers as it has to be from a extremely successful source OR already finished. Only animes that have managed to take that “when you overtake the manga, do fillers to give time” approach and survive are the true mainstream big hitters like the big 3 of shonen, or even bigger stuff like Dragon Ball or Saint Seiya, but normally if an anime has to reach that point it’s eventually canceled (like Rurouni Kenshin) or it gets a Gecko Ending (ie: many series by Madhouse) or it deviates even earlier (ie: Many series by JC Staff; Sailor Moon)..

Even if the source is wildly popular, it still will not be faithful at times (like the works of BONES, the original FMA which deviated early or Soul Eater that had a gecko ending).

Going along with CriticalFel (who I desperately wish to call CriticalEel, because…eels? Ammiright?), precise adaptations have been exceptions rather than rules in the collection of shows I’ve seen (I know I’m appealing to devastatingly incomplete anecdotal evidence here, but…). You even have IP like Negima and it’s animated adaptation, which was apparently popular enough (and different enough) to spawn a comic adaptation of the adaptation.

Yeah, I’m shocked Josh would ever defend Smallville. Struck me as the type to just bash it, not alternate between bashing and defending it.

When he says ‘defend it’ I imagine that he was responding to people saying things like “Smallville is bad because Clark never met Lex until he went to Metropolis” by defending Smallville’s right to be different from the comics, while not necessarily defending the show itself. In other words, the show might be bad but it isn’t bad just because it doesn’t follow the comics.

Yep, Ted pretty much got it. There are a lot of factors that go into making Smallville a below-average show, but I don’t think things like meeting friends and enemies out of order or earlier than in the comics should be numbered among them.

funkygreenjerusalem

December 19, 2010 at 7:33 pm

There are a lot of factors that go into making Smallville a below-average show, but I don’t think things like meeting friends and enemies out of order or earlier than in the comics should be numbered among them.

Yeah, but it is a useful thing to use as cover if comic fans say they don’t like it and you are a big fan, or work on the show.
Would be far from the first time any complaints about an adaptation have been brushed aside by blaming it on fans of the original, who just wanted it to be exactly the same – with just about every comic adaptation, I’ve seen someone involved dodge any complaints, or lack of interest, in their adaptation on that.

I tried watching Smallville for the first time the other night.
Made it about four minutes into the pilot before having stop.
Watched some Superman animated series instead – much, much better.

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