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3 Chicks Review Comics – Episode 008

It’s Episode 008!

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Inside this episode! Does Wolverine & Jubilee #1 deliver the promise of a fantastic mini-series…and can it live up to that great cover?  Is Young Justice #0 better or worse the cartoon?  Is it worth investing in if you like the show…or if you hate the show?  Listen and find out!  For our hot topic we talk about the Selina Kyle casting of Anne Hathaway (and Tom Hardy as Bane) for the next Batman movie…and all the chatter that came with the announcement.  We’ve got week two of our new feature – CHICK OF THE WEEK – who will she be?!  Here’s a hint…we loved her book this week, a whole lot.  Plus our picks of the week…but since everyone picked the same book, Maddy talks about some hilariously brilliant Kate Beaton “Adventures of Sexy Batman” strips that went up on Hark A Vagrant! this week…they are worth their weight in gold…three words…Batman Assless Chaps!

Links to some other stuff we talked about: Greg’s review of Moving Pictures. Catherine Deneuve in The Hunger. Though Catwoman shouldn’t just be about being sexy, if you doubt Anne Hathaway as Catwoman for lack of sexiness? I dare you to click that link!

3 Chicks Review Comics is a podcast featuring female comics lovers and bloggers Sue from DC Women Kicking Ass, and Maddy from When Fangirls Attack! along with me, Kelly Thompson. Tune in weekly to CSBG Tuesdays at 2pm as we review comics, and discuss hot topics of the week. Don’t forget to subscribe to our cast via iTunes, so you never miss an episode (the subscribe button is on the main page on the bottom right).  In addition to the blogs above, you can also follow us all on twitter as well: Kelly, Maddy, and Sue. Special thanks to Nik Furious for our awesome 3 Chicks theme song.

*As always beware of spoilers if you haven’t read the books in question!


13 Comments

Hisako (Armour) was pissed off at Jubilee because she was responsible to a certain extent for Xarus’s (Dracula’s son) invasion of Utopia (the island where all the mutants live). Don’t think she has any personal beef.

Another great podcast.

The discussion about the importance of female characters’ sexiness reminded me of some of the comments I read in response to this Robot 6 post about Kate Beaton’s Sexy Batman:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/01/kate-beaton-presents-the-adventures-of-sexy-batman/

Sean T. Collins said in the post that the comic revealed the “how totally idiotic it is for female superheroes to constantly be shown doing the exact same thing,” which a few people took issue with, going as far as to claim that, “Well, the sexualization of men is exactly the same as it is with women” in comics, ’cause, you know, they were tight clothing or something.

So what’s interesting to me is that not only is this such an obvious and overt problem with comics (and I guess culture in general), but a lot of men are apparently completely blind to it and are able to convince themselves that there is no discrepancy. It’s kind of mind-boggling to me.

you should check out Anne Hathaway in the movie “Havoc,” she’s pretty intense in that, kind of an aggressive “bad girl” role. i’m still all about Mila Kunis, though. ;)

what about Naomi Watts?!?!?

i’m a dude and i think a lot about the focus on beauty being women’s main (or only) value point, even though obviously you’d know way more than i do, being a woman. it’s really sad though, yeah.. i guess i don’t have anything worthwhile to say about it, it’s a pretty obvious batch of problems and you guys laid it all out well.

Catwoman is totally going to get creamed in Dark Knight Rises, let’s face it. XD. i think i said something about the Barbara Gordon absence on the Awesomed By Comics ‘cast, deja vu, but i think that aspect is some thing symptomatic of people’s obsession with father/son relationships. like fathers and daughters aren’t seen to have a real deal, serious, unbreakable bond, but oh no if the SON, the HEIR, is being threatened, omg.

you guys lost me a bit with the continuity talk. ;)

i like how Sue refers to Catwoman as not a fictional character compared to the very fictional Rachel Dawes. hahaha.

As a Hispanic male, it does not bother me at all that Tom Hardy was chosen to portray Bane. I loved him in Inception and I’ve heard great things about him in Bronson, so I’m satisfied with Mr. Hardy as an actor. I understand that some might care about the role of Latinos in the media, but it’s not something I yearn for in my entertainment. I’ve not read one issue of Jaime Reyes as Blue Beetle. I barely watched Battlestar Galactica, but really appreciated the Adama lineage by the time I delved into Caprica. More often than not, I actively dislike Hispanic cats in the media because I don’t like what they put out. Not to say that a great Salma Hayek or Penelope Cruz film doesn’t make me smile. It’s nice to see someone from my racial background or cultural heritage, but it’s not necessary.

Part of me thinks that a factor in the white-washing of Bane is that the Nolan redesign of the character will not have the Luchador mask. It’s going to be interesting to see what Nolan does with this character.

@ross i like how Sue refers to Catwoman as not a fictional character compared to the very fictional Rachel Dawes. hahaha.

Oh, you know what I meant! But I have to say I laughed when I heard myself say it!

Great podcast Chicks!

Love the Selina discussion… My first reaction Hathaway was a slightly positive “that’s interesting.” The more I think about it, the more I can see it. She’s definitely has the acting chops to pull off a complex Selina Kyle, which is what we’ll hopefully get if he gives her the Harvey Dent/Two-Face treatment. At least I hope she gets equal characterization building along with Bane.

The thing about Selina is that her sexiness isn’t just how she looks in a catsuit. She challenges and holds her own against the Bat and the insanity of Gotham in her own way and on her own terms. The confidence, intelligence and resourcefulness she exudes (when written well) to do so is tremendously sexy, compelling and should just smolder. They rightfully see something in one another that others don’t, despite their flaws. It’s part of their magic. I’d love to see Selina’s mask in Gotham society, much like Bruce Wayne. I’ve always found the Selina/Bruce counterpoint to Catwoman/Batman as fun.

What I don’t want to see is the Frank Miller prostitute origin, I’d rather some other compelling trauma or incident put her on her path to being Catwoman.

Some of issues with Wolverine & Jubilee are addressed in the book.

For readers that don’t know what Pixie can do, Pixie’s teleporting is shown off before the rock smashing. You’ve got a panel of Pixie glowing, telling Jubilee to catch her, and saying “Sihal Novarum Chinoth!”. The next panel is Pixie standing in the distance, and the start of Jubilee’s rush forward screaming that she hates teleportation. With the rock itself, you’ve again got a glowing Pixie, and her speech bubble (over two panels) is the same gibberish phrase as before, except without spaces between the words (because she’s rushing it for obvious reasons.)

It could have been made slightly more obvious, though, if you had a panel afterward showing Pixie in the distance. But considering how fast Jubilee can move and how angry she is, Pixie would have to be pretty stupid to have teleported to anywhere still even remotely near to Jubilee.

As for the dead people in the storage container, if you really want to know the answer, it appears to be spoiled in the “Next Issue” description on the page after the story ends.

For Jubilee and Armor, the “Previously” mentions vampires attacking Utopia and Jubilee is now a vampire. We are told that the treatment isn’t a cure, so she’s staying a vampire. It presumably isn’t just Armor that has issues with her, considering that she tells Emma that everyone hates her, and Scott had earlier wanted to keep her in the cell. She tells Pixie that everyone is afraid of her. It might have helped if we were shown more people who were actually upset with having a vampire still in their midst, but every character present is pretty much there for a different point-of-view. Armor just happened to be the choice for the “Vampires aren’t welcome” attitude. (While Cyclops says that Wolverine hates vampires, Wolverine has the more important “Jubilee is important, and I’m going to help her” attitude, and thus can’t be shown getting upset at her out of nowhere.)

I assumed you guys might touch on the Wonder Woman show being given another chance by NBC. I’ve left some ideas on how to approach it.

I think they need to aproach Ww in a less direct way. I wouldnt call the show WW. I’d call it themyscira. Make it a fascinating look at the Island where she’s from. She can follow some rogue amazons to L.a to stop them from taking over. She should have skill as a fighter as well. I definately would not try to hard to get guys or comic fans to watch. You have to make it enjoyable for woman to watch. Market it where potential female viewers might be found. I’ve heard Incredible hulk tv show fans were mostly woman. And smallville and Lois and clark fans mostly dont read comics. I also would make the viewing audience wait a long time to see her in the famous outfit. People might get mad, but it worked for Smallvile. Oh, and Superhero cameos, lots of them. I wasnt interested in Smallville for years, but the cameos hooked me, and the stories kept me.If it does well, fanboys will come, kicking and screaming, but they will come.

Hey great podcast. I’d be interested in hearing the group’s thoughts on Terry Moore’s Echo some time. I’ve been reading it since issue #1 and have always found the story and cast interesting.

Of course men weren’t saying whether Christian Bale was sexy enough for Batman- at least not the heterosexual males. I do think people may have thought he didn’t fit the look of Bruce Wayne, but we’ve had so many different actors playing Wayne/Batman that I think it wasn’t a big deal at all by that time.

As for Catwoman, Anne Hathaway I think she was so scrutinized because a) the line of Catowomen (even the bad one, you know who that is) are STONE COLD FOXES b) people really haven’t seen her films, like Havok, Devil Wears Prada, etc. and c) of course, all men are pigs. ;)

I will admit that I went straight to looks when I read the announcement. I don’t like Anne Hathaway’s nose, but that’s funny, because I don’t like Christian Bale’s nose either! So that made me calm down a bit, and then I thought abut all the GREAT casting done on Nolan’s Bat films and that calmed me down more. Then I thought about how far Anne Hathaway has come since she was in kid’s films. She’s a good actress, and I would do a triple head turn if she walked by me, for sure.

I don’t like that they took the ethnicity away from Bane, but what can you do? I think it would have been cool to have a villain that’s not white.

It’s way too soon to tell how Nolan/Hardy will portray Bane, but I do wonder if there is a concern about making the villain Latino while everyone else, Batman, Gorden, Kyle, etc, is white.

I think people are more interested in if the film will be good and not Bane’s ethnicity. I bet a lot of people don’t know Bane’s background, other than he’s a brute who broke Batman.

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