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You Decide ’11 – What is Your Favorite Loeb/Sale Collaboration?

Each day this month, I’ll be posting a different poll question – each poll will last five days, and I’ll reveal the results of the finished polls every Tuesday.

This way, for this month, we can see what our readers feel about various comic book questions. For a month, you folks will decide! Click here to see the other questions that you can answer as well as checking out the latest poll results!

Read on for the latest poll question!

36 Comments

When I first read the title, I wasn’t too sure. But when I saw the list, I knew it had to be For All Seasons by a mile.

I don’t see Vampirella on there so I’ll vote Challengers.

I don’t see Vampirella on there so I’ll vote Challengers.

Yeah, I’m just doing stuff that’s been collected, so no Solo story, no Captain America: White, no issue of Cable they did and no Vampirella story they did.

Yeah, thank goodness for Challs. I did like that one at the time.

Holy shit, I didn’t know they did Challengers. I’ll have to find that.
Also, if anything other than Long Halloween wins, I’ll be shocked.

Yeah, Superman gets my vote. Loved it!

But all the coloured Marvel work was great too. (still waiting on Cap!)

I’ve got The Long Halloween, but haven’t read it! ;)

The Crazed Spruce

February 9, 2011 at 2:24 am

What, no first season of Heroes? :)

I was torn between the Challengers and Superman. In the end, I wound up picking the only one I’d actually read all of, and that’s Superman For Al Seasons.

Hey, for a future poll, how about Best Version of Superman’s Origin?

The Crazed Spruce

February 9, 2011 at 2:27 am

@MattFunk: They not only did the Challengers, they redefined them. It was their first collaboration, probably even their first comic work, years before The Long Holloween, and it’s definitely worth looking up.

I love Sale’s art, but Loeb’s writing can be absolutely terrible – the Wolverine and Gambit mini is one of the worst comics I’ve ever read, and the constant return to “Actually, it WAS the obvious suspect, psych!” in his more recent work is just dull. Challengers and Superman, though, that was good work.

Wow… I never realized that I had read nothing by the two in concert…

Crazed Spruce has an interesting idea there. There have been many interpretations of Superman’s origin, from Byrne to Waid to JMS, as well as the original done back in the fifties…I think. I saw a reprint of it way back when I forget when it was published. I am sure there are others I am forgetting or am unaware of.

I second “Best Version of Superman’s Origin” – Man of Steel, Birthright, Secret Origin, Earth One. I don’t know if there are any similarly “definitive” pre-crisis origin stories? Or if it’s all just one cumulative tale.

the constant return to “Actually, it WAS the obvious suspect, psych!” in his more recent work is just dull.

It’s not just his most recent works. He’s done all his mysteries that way.

DAREDEVIL:YELLOW got my vote. Sale’s art is just gorgeous in that one.

Superman: For All Seasons is definitely not original, but it’s taken from good stuff and executed well, so what the hell, right?

How about an option for “didn’t like any of this stuff”?

Voted Long Halloween over For All Seasons because I like looking at Sale’s version of Gotham and it’s inhabitants more than Metropolis’.

I’m also pretty sure it marks the last thing I read before I got tired of Loeb’s tropes.

Superman: For All Seasons is definitely not original, but it’s taken from good stuff and executed well

You lost me at “executed well.”

My favorite part is when Henry VIII chops off Superman’s head for treason.

And beware–T.’s gonna go feral in this thread and he won’t even remember the damage he did when it’s all over.

I suppose that is like asking T. what kind of cancer he prefers.

funkygreenjerusalem

February 9, 2011 at 6:31 pm

Also, if anything other than Long Halloween wins, I’ll be shocked.

It’s certainly the most popular, but there’s the chance that with people who are more than a casual fan (and I assume casual fans don’t come vote here) voting, that one of the others will win.
The book was 90′s good, so it’s not held in as high esteem today… I dunno, it probably will win, I just don’t think it’s that good of a collaboration between the two, let alone the best.

My vote went to Superman: For All Seasons.
It’s just such a nice read.

Rene said:

I suppose that is like asking T. what kind of cancer he prefers.

Awesome line!

I think it’s safe to say T didn’t vote on anything here, but look at that kids, he didn’t whine “why isn’t there a none of the above option?”

I didn’t vote here either, as I haven’t read enough of their stuff, and what I have hasn’t been great.

For All Seasons beats out Long Halloween for my vote. I liked their Superman/ Batman work, most of the Marvel series were OK, the only one I read that I didn’t like was Challengers of the Unknown.

And beware–T.’s gonna go feral in this thread and he won’t even remember the damage he did when it’s all over.

HEY! For such a Loeb-heavy thread, I think I’ve exercised incredible restraint!

Then again I was worried Brian was partly trying to bait me and I didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of going berserk. :p

No baiting intended!

Although obviously I couldn’t come up with this topic and not think of your Loeb-hate at ALL, it just wasn’t a driving force behind making this poll.

Chanllengers of the Unknown!

Tim Sale’s art has improved since then (though it was still good back then), but nothing else Loeb has written comes close.

If we’re talking art alone, I think DD: Yellow looks better than all of them. Sale went to town on the details, used a really nice ink wash, and almost made the original Daredevil costume look not horrible.

I went with Long Halloween, though, because it was the first Loeb/ Sale book i read, and had the biggest impact.

I only wish Loeb & Sale had done a Connor Hawke book together, maybe a story comparing all conservatives to Nazis, just to see how much praise T. could heap upon a single comic.

Although obviously I couldn’t come up with this topic and not think of your Loeb-hate at ALL, it just wasn’t a driving force behind making this poll.

Of course it wasn’t, I was joking. I’m not so vain as to think you’d create a whole poll just to bust my chops. :)

I knew you knew that, just making sure everyone else does, too. ;)

David Eric Carpenter

February 10, 2011 at 8:10 am

I thought I was alone in my love of their Challengers of the Unknown. I think it’s one of the few times where they didn’t dwell on the origin of something, but instead took an existing group or character and just ran with it. It was completely insane, but I loved it.

I really need to read their Challengers thing…

Long Halloween was good if you were reading it month to month, however (like most of Loeb’s work) the massive anti-climax and confusion of the ‘reveal’ kinda spoiled the entire series. So Superman get’s my vote. Daredevil and Spider-man had their moments and Dark Victory was saved the usual Loeb bad-ending but was never that exciting a series anyway.

No one else has some Spider-Man: Blue love? I think Sale nailed the art on that one. But then of course he always does …

Spider-Man: Blue was fine – if a bit completely identical to Daredevil: Yellow.

(I haven’t read Hulk: Grey yet, but if he spends the whole book pining after a dead girlfriend I’ll be seeing a pattern)

The first and best: Challengers

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