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The Age of X Dialogues Part Two – X-Men Legacy #245 and New Mutants #22

Welcome back to two of your favorite Comics Should be Good bloggers geeking out over alternate reality X-Men fun! “The Age of X Dialogues” where Chad Nevett and I discuss every issue of the “Age of X” storyline.  We continue this week with X-Men Legacy #245 and New Mutants #22.

Kelly Thompson: Welcome everyone to the second installment of “The Age of X Dialogues” between myself and Chad Nevett. These dialogues came about when we mentioned to one another on Twitter that we were both excited for the “Age of X” story that kicked off this week and will carry on through April in X-Men Legacy and New Mutants as well as Age of X: Universe, a two-issue mini-series. After a long wait, parts two and three of the storyline dropped this week, and so we’re back to discuss…

Chad Nevett: It’s been a while since our first discussion, but “Age of X” has finally begun in a proper sense with the first two chapters shipping on the same day. Instead of discussing both right off, I think we should begin with chapter one, X-Men Legacy #245. My first thought upon reading this issue was “Wow, Marvel should have begun with this and saved Age of X Alpha until partway through as a schedule-filling one-shot.” Did Age of X Alpha even seem necessary at all really? What did you think of the first chapter of “Age of X,” Kelly?

KT: I agree 100%, not only did I love this issue of X-Men Legacy, but it was a fantastic jumping on point and it made Age of X Alpha pale even more horribly in comparison.  I really hope that people that were interested in this storyline that bought Age of X Alpha and were disappointed, will give the series a second chance, because this was just a total 180 in terms of quality between the two books.  I honestly loved so much about this.  The natural flow of jumping into the battle and then the come down after that (as opposed to the forced tense “camaraderie” of a pre-battle bonfire, which could have worked, but for me, didn’t).  We learned a little bit about a lot of characters, instead of a little bit about three characters (and that little hadn’t impressed me much with the exception of the Scott/Basilisk story).  We also got some really solid art (for both issues) and a lot of completely intriguing hints and mysterious stuff dropped in our laps.  The writing overall was strong, with a few awkward bits, but really, on the whole, I loved every second of this issue and where it seemed poised to take us.  You?

CN: Yeah, I enjoyed this issue a whole lot more. We immediately got a better sense of what’s going on this world and how it may relate to the regular Marvel Universe as we know it. Something that really made me wish Age of X Alpha had come out after this issue was the reference to Basilisk’s past and how much better his story would have been if we’d gotten it after a few issues of hints about his terrible past. Instead, we know the full story going in and that, oddly, lessens its impact. It would have been more effective to show us a hardened, darker Scott Summers getting chewed out by Cannonball with no explanation for how the top X-Man of the reality we know is this guy here. Same with the Logan reveal. Knowing the back story coming in makes both of their appearances less impactful.

As for the issue itself, it throws us right in and gives a lot of characters some panel time, which is nice. I couldn’t help but compare this to “Age of Apocalypse” and how that event had so many issues to show us how the characters are changed, but Mike Carey pulls it off, often through only one or two small pieces of dialogue. It’s an issue that relies on knowledge of the X-Men a lot more and I didn’t know who certain characters were sometimes – except, that doesn’t matter. Carey makes sure that you don’t need to know every character since the changes in the ones you do know are enough to sell the concept.

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My one annoying complaint about the issue was Mike Carey trying to be ambiguous about the narration, to the point of having Legacy narrate ‘I’ instead of the ‘Ah’ she uses later. When it turned out that she was the narrator, I was thrown, because her accent only shows up in the narration once she’s revealed as the narrator and, I’m sorry, but that’s just sloppy, bad writing.

Something we (and everyone else) wanted to know is why this story is happening and this first chapter provided a few clues (with the second giving even more). But, I didn’t find that to be much of a concern at first, because Carey draws us in so well. There isn’t as much time to stop and think “Okay, how did this world happen?” until near the end when he starts to hint at the larger mystery.

KT: I agree completely that both the Logan and Basilisk stories would have been more impactful if they came AFTER this book.  I don’t know that the Cannonball or Magneto stories mattered one way or another (yet at least) but certainly so far nothing was ADDED by coming first. Based on the strength of the books this week, I really do hope people interested ignore Age of X Alpha and come back to check this out.

I also agree on the strange choice regarding the narration at the beginning.  It was a big mistake to try to mask it, when the narrator has such an obvious tell…but I don’t understand why Carey would bother masking it?  When I realized it was Legacy narrating at the end I went back to determine if it was always Legacy and if it was supposed to be, why there was a need for any kind of secrecy…and I couldn’t figure one out.  It was a strange decision and a big mistake.

That said, I thought some really cool stuff was set up here.  I’m not sure if this is entirely where they are going (although we’ve now read I think 1/3 of the story – so it seems like it could be) but I like the idea that the primary conflict is shaping up to maybe be an internal one, rather than external, which would be a really different take if that’s where Carey is going.  I mean, we have the battle with the humans, or preaks, that are constantly attacking the “force walls” (which were pretty cool by the way) but based on events in this book (and New Mutants #22) that looks to be totally secondary…almost just a distraction, to the far more interesting internal battles that are coming to a head.  I found myself crazy intrigued, and chiding myself for thinking that Carey needed to establish the “why” of this universe before we got into it.  I mean, I stand by wanting that, but clearly it’s going to be a huge part of the story – if not the whole enchilada – as he kind of hinted at.  And if he can keep it coming like this…well, I’m definitely on board.

CN: Yeah, in New Mutants #22, it became more apparent that things aren’t necessarily how they appear. Is anything actually beyond the walls of Fortress X? Kitty’s camera seems to suggest not. I wondered about the daily attacks and why the humans would keep it up. Attack the same place on a daily basis for almost three years and never succeed? That’s when you stick some forces outside to make sure no one leaves and be satisfied with that. Of course, if the attacks and the idea of a world outside Fortress X are a ruse or false… what’s the point? Is that how you read these issues? Or did I create a weird little plot inside my head that no one else saw?

KT: Well, I don’t think you created a weird little plot inside your head, because I think that’s definitely one possibility, both the blank camera images and the revelation by Basilisk that he’s got duplicate dog tags from seemingly different soldiers that he’s killed, and also the kind of “sameness” of the soldiers and battles that they’re fighting. Something fishy is definitely going on…but that’s what I’m saying, it’s definitely enough of a hook (see what I did there with fish and hooks! Amazing!) that Carey has me very curious as to where he’s going to take it.  I think the great success for me was the feeling I had of being fully transported to a whole new world that would be possible with just slight tweaks.

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I liked what they’ve done with Rogue/Reaper/Legacy and how they’ve positioned her in the story, and I like what we saw of others as well, though there wasn’t room for too much with so many players on the board.  With Carey’s take on Rogue here it makes me want this to all go on longer and be bigger so I can see his take on more and deeper you know?  I’m not trying to complain…like “oh give me something great but I’m still going to bitch because I’m greedy!” I’m just saying that I find myself wishing they’d given Carey even more room because these two issues are the most excited I’ve been about an X-book in a while. And yet at the end of New Mutants #22 I was a little bummed that the actual New Mutants were going to be showing up – although they looked pretty cool – because I’d already seen so many new characters I wanted to see more about – and now here were a whole bunch more – there just isn’t enough page time, y’know?

One thing we must discuss regarding character design…why so many shirtless dudes?…it’s actually a little weird.  In one awesome double page spread battle scene early on in Legacy I counted like five or six shirtless dudes (out of eight!) and that didn’t include David/Legion and Julian who showed up later, also shirtless!  What is going on?! Is there a shortage of material for mens’ shirts in this reality?  I mean, y’know, I’m fine with it if Clay Mann is trying to even the odds on the long running costume disparity between the sexes in superhero comics…but I have to at least comment on it.  Am I insane?

CN: They live in a battle zone and fight all of the time… shirts wouldn’t last. And yet the women all have tops. Strange. I’m now waiting for the follow-up “Age of XXX” storyarc where they’ve been fighting for so long and are cut off to such a degree that they have no clothes at all. Make mine, Marvel!

I liked the initial concept of Rogue/Legacy/Reaper, so much so that I’m disappointed that she’s the main character of the story. It’s an interesting take on the character as an angel of death/collective living memory of the fallen mutants that I’d rather she stayed in the background more. She’s more interesting in that position. Once she’s in the foreground, she loses that mystique and becomes less interesting, more generic. The way she uses her powers to investigate is smart, but seems to go against how she’d acted in this world to that point. Then again, I’ve never been a Rogue fan. Never gotten the appeal of the character.

I guess that’s a problem with a mystery story like this: the way that certain ideas are introduced create impressions upon the reader and he/she fills in the blanks, making the eventual revelation or expansion of an idea possibly worse to said reader because it doesn’t meet the expectations. Take the character ‘X.’ At some point, it occurred to me that X being Charles Xavier would be a cool way to subvert expectations with him being the unseen military mastermind support of the mutants, making the mystery of how Magneto rose to his position even greater. I’m not saying the eventual revelation will be a letdown, but seeing Xavier in the prison was a small one, because that seems less interesting on the surface than the story I’d crafted in my head. Does that make sense?

KT: Haha. Shirts, who needs em?!  Maybe there’s a shortage of large pieces of material out there…hence the women being more clothed…yeah, makes no sense.  But sign me up for “Age of XXX” for sure.

Well, from what I read in a few interviews and such, Rogue is only going to be a lead/focus character initially and then it’s going to hand off to someone(s) else.  As a non-fan of the character that’s good news for you. I’ve always loved the character, and I particularly like the character when her powers are not under control, and when creators really think about her powers – both the ways to utilize them effectively, and the ways that they would make her (and others) vulnerable.  So this really works for me.  I’ll be disappointed when the handoff comes – assuming it does.

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I was kind of assuming – and it’s a big assumption – that “X” is that Doug/Phalanx thing, and I guess I don’t really know where I got that idea, and since he/it is seen in the field pretty regularly in these two issues it kind of suggests that’s not true…but the Professor X thing is a good thought…and would have been really intriguing.  But you’re right that Xavier being in the prison definitely undercuts that pretty clearly, as does “Blindfold’s” rantings at Legacy.  You’re right that hinging all of this on a a mystery where we as readers are trying to fill in the blanks is risky.  It could totally end up being underwhelming to where we as readers expect/hope/think it will go.  But it’s always risky I guess telling a story like this though.

I think at this point, I’d say that Carey has me good and hooked on the what these reveals are going to be.  Maybe because I’m a bit sick I’m not putting enough thought into it and if I tried harder I could come up with some better theories…but for right now I just have no idea where he’s going and am enjoying the ride.  Overall do you like what we saw in these two issues?  You seem…less enthused than I am, no?

CN: I think I am a little less enthused. To put it in CBR reviewing terms, you seem around four stars, while I’m only at three-and-a-half. Still very positive, just not as much as you are. Part of that is the art. I didn’t hate the art, but I didn’t love it either. It’s serviceable and doesn’t really rise above a certain level for me. And that’s fine. Oddly, I’m really looking forward to Age of X Universe #1 in March, because I’m curious to see how the Avengers of this world are handled. But, before that, we get chapters three and four (not on the same day, thankfully). I’m more enthused when I think about three of the next four weeks having a new part of this story.

KT: Yeah, I’d say four stars is a fair assessment of where I am.  But like I said, it’s less about thinking these are two perfect comic books, than being excited about where we’re going, which is far too uncommon for me these days in comics…so that holds a lot of weight for me.  The one thing that I suppose Age of X Alpha DID do for me, is significantly lower my expectations on something I was really excited about, which sadly, isn’t always a bad thing.  And now my expectations are back up a bit, but at more reasonable…manageable perhaps, levels.  Overall, I’m excited to see what X-Men Legacy #246, New Mutants #23, and Age of X Universe #1 are going to bring us in March.


It’s odd there are no comments here yet. Have people not read the issues (like how I haven’t) and aren’t reading, or are there just not many X fans on CSBG?

From what I’m getting out of what you’re talking about, it seems maybe there’s a Prisoner type vibe to what’s happening, or maybe a PKD thing. (As in, this is all happening in someone’s head)

I’m hoping I can find these issues when I get to the comic shop, because this and your other post intrigued me about it (plus that “news” bit I heard about there being no May X titles…)

X-Men Legacy #245 was definitely a set up from that one-shot that just left me bored and confused. (Minus the “Cyclops” story, of course).

I really didn’t get excited at all until New Mutants #22 and the particular scene with Blindfold.

While X-Men Legacy left off with Xavier in the prison, I really didn’t notice the prison was full of psychics until New Mutants. The fact that there’s so much hiding around those particular mutants when mutants are in desperate need really intrigues me more than anything else in the story thus far.

The Kitty Pryde camera idea did perk me up slightly, but New Mutants for sure, sold me on the Age of X series.

Bring on the Age of X Universe!

For the past few months, I have been really excited for “Age of X”. The Cyclops/Basilisk storyline has by far been the most interesting to date. Its nice to see Scott Summers in a different view, especially after his role as more of a ‘military general’ figure in the current series. I’ll reserve judement until after a few more issues, but so far so good.

I think that the X-fans stick mainly to the CBR message boards. I do follow CSBG, but I never post.

I disagree about Alpha; I absolutely loved it, but I do agree that the Basilisk story should have come at a later time, but I think the Wolverine/Rao story works first because you think that Wolverine might die ,and you need to see the effects. Now we see what it did to him and that he’s now just a bartender, which I love since he drinks so much. It’s quite fitting that he’s now serving it. And I love the Husk/Cannonball story. I absolutely loved it, getting the different reactions to the family’s death, causing two different directions. Since we haven’t seen Paige yet in the first tow chapters, I think we’ll be seeing her soon playing a large role as leader of the mutant terrorist groups. I think that’s also why this would work before Age of X came out.

As for these issues, I loved the mystery around them. And I used to hate Rogue until Carey began writing her in a very complex way and used her powers in a fashion that suits her. I was content with her being in the sidelines as Reaper, which is a really cool take on her powers. I can’t get past how awesome that was. But I’m perfectly content with her coming to the forefront and us following her on this mystery to be solved. Kitty’s role was intriguing too. It’s the first time I’ve cared about her since she got stuck in the bullet. The whole camera thing is interesting, and I can’t quite come up with a theory that works for me yet as to why the pictures are blank. It is interesting that all telepaths are in the brig. That means Psylocke must have only telekinesis.

I’m intrigued at where this story will go. I love everything about this; the couplings (“Robert” and “Lady Braddock” is great especially how she talks like a Lady and Storm and Namor is cool), the dialogue (to me, the use of I rather than Ah is nitpicky. I dealt with it.), the interactions, Moira being alive. Carey really makes the dialogue mean something; he keeps it concise.

Carey said each part will revolve around a character; my guess is the first around Rogue, the second around the General, and the third around Cannonball and/or Basilisk?

Christopher Walsh

February 26, 2011 at 12:57 pm

I wasn’t as underwhelmed as the reviewers by the one-shot. (Though I found the art on the Basilisk/Cyclops story to be horribly disappointing.) I do agree that maybe it should have been released in a different order.

I reall dig the Legacy character.
I was more shocked at all the new “hook-ups” that are taking place (or have already taken place) in this timeline.

I agree with the intrigue of “Who is X?” and what kind of psuedo-reality exists outside the force walls? (as suggested by the blank photos from Kitty’s camera)
I’m also curious, as usual, about the meaning of some of Blindfolds “prophecies”.

The art on these two issues, to me, was a cut above the one-shot by far. I was already familiar with Clay Mann and Steve Kurth as artists so I knew what to expect and they have met those expectations. My only gripe is that my store didn’t get the variants for either of these issues.

Great article and I almost completely agree!
I think you’re both being a tad arrogant to state that Carey engages in “bad, sloppy writing” via his Legacy narration.
If its her inner dialog or something she wrote down, why would you think the former Rouge thinks with or writes out an accent?
Regardless, theres more than one potential reason for her to not have an accent while being the narrator, especially in a comic book where there is no audio, but what you imagine.

Remember that comics are not movies folks, and its an interactive medium!

Well the “what is going beyond the walls” definitely has my intention, as well as what is up with Blindfold and Xavier in a coma (I’m guessing he is X, whatever)

In terms of Magneto’s story in Alpha, at least part of it, the towers he ripped from Manhattan are the same combined buildings that is Fortress X. I wonder if that means they are still there? Wouldn’t make sense but I have no idea what is going on here anyhow, and I like that.

@Sean: The Issue isn’t that Carey has used “I” instead of “Ah” for Rogue/Legacy narration…it’s that he uses both.

@Hartley!: I can’t speak for Chad of course but I wouldn’t have thought it odd for Legacy to speak without an “ah” in her own narration…but it’s Carey’s use of both that is problematic – i.e. she doesn’t speak with an “ah” at the beginning of the book’s narration, and she does at the end. There isn’t a large time lapse or any other clear indicators about why this would be…so it does come off as error.

Concerned Reader

February 26, 2011 at 2:30 pm

Your first sentence should read “. . . between me and Chad Nevett.” That’s an incorrect use of the reflexive pronoun.

I agreed with the comments made. I really liked the first real segment of the Age of X crossover, and wish they hadn’t started with the one shot.

The second issue I was a little more iffy about; it seems like we’re jumping into considering what’s really going on here before we’ve had sufficient time to enjoy what is a pretty interesting world. A little worried based on that as to where this ship is headed.

But a very interesting concept. Definitely impressed with what’s been presented.

I am waiting for the trade but wow am I excited for this book!

For me, it’s the use of both ‘I’ and ‘Ah’ that’s problematic. To use both is inconsistent. Either she speaks with the accent (even in her own narration) or she doesn’t. Pick one.

Have y’all heard a Southerner talk? Depending on the sentence, we may say a hard “I” or it may sound like “Ah.” I think everyone is reading way too into it. Carey likely meant nothing by it. There would be no reason for him to want to hide the identity of the narrator. Give him the credit he is due for making a great story so far.

@Concerned Reader: Interesting that you’re only concerned when the article comes from me and not from Chad…as it’s the same sentence both times. Me? Paranoid?! No…don’t be crazy!

@Benji: I guess I could buy that argument if there were uses of “I” and “Ah” interchanged throughout the narrations pages. But it’s a hard “only use of ‘I'” in the beginning and then a hard “only use of ‘ah'” in the end section.

I like that y’all are trying to give Carey the benefit of the doubt on this…and I’m definitely a fan of his work, especially with Rogue, so I’m not trying to be super hard on him about it, but this does still feel like a mistake to me.

Sometimes the other memories just slip in and she loses her accent naturally.

Now where’s my no-prize

Oh, Matt D, that’s something to consider. It’s happened before. And here, her head hasn’t been cleared of all the entities she’s absorbed.

I think the problem a lot of us are having with your judgment about the “ah”/”I” thing is that “sloppy, bad” just seems so overstated. I don’t think people would be as opposed (or as prepared to tear apart your grammar) if you had just said “odd” or even just “sloppy” or “inconsistent.” For me to say something was “bad writing” would require something much more egregious, like say Bendis-style patter where every character sounds exactly the same. I guess it’s all opinion and review-writing style in the end.

@Jigae-You indeed speak for me, and what I was getting at.

I haven’t read the book myself, but what I picked up from Chad and Kelly is that the narration uses “I” through the beginning of the story, and once the narrator is “revealed”, then she uses “ah”. I agree that it should be consistent, especially if there’s no real reason to “hide” who the narrator is. The only reason I can think of for a change if there’s no reason to hide the narrator is if the first part is “thought”, and the second part is being “told” to someone, so that she’s actually speaking and using “ah”.

I’m gonna blame the editors…

If anything should be annoying consistently, it’s that it’s always “Ah” and never a “Wah.” Seriously, as a dude in the south, I can’t tell you how often I leave the area and have someone call me out on how I pronounce “Why.”

As for comics, ehhhhhhhh whatever. I’m interested in what comes next, but so far I haven’t been sucked in or given a reason to care.

I am finding this story interesting. to me it is seeming sort of like the Matrix. Like Magneto is keeping them believing they are fighting a war that really isn’t going on. Hence why Basilisk found the name tag thing strange. I mean come on, the entire world hates mutants so bad? It is possible but still it seems like something put on to keep the mutants riled up and fighting for their lives.

Concerned Reader

February 26, 2011 at 8:45 pm

Yours was the first error in the article. Squeaky wheel and all that.

@Concerned: Hmm. That wasn’t what I was referring to actually, I was referring to identical openings for the two pieces…but since we’re being grammar nazis…what does “squeaky wheel” have to do with being first? It should have to do with being the “loudest”.

What’s in the void outside?

Giant bug-like aliens and pirate Zombies with Hooks…

I haven’t been picking these up, but has Chamber appeared yet?

@Concerned reader? Take a chill pill. relax a little. Your coming across as very high strung. ;)

@ Duwey : I’ve thought of a Matrix-like scenario, too. I mean, all mutants are here, and they can’t go outside the force walls without being ( alledgely ) slaughtered ? All the psychics neutralized ? Wolverine out of the field, thinking he can’t pop his claws ? That’s exactly what someone who would want to trap the X-Men would do, getting rid of the heaviest hitters and scaring everyone into not escaping their fortress/prison. If you ask me, Kitty’s camera saw nothing because there’s nothing. Fortress X is not an alternate reality, but a virtual one, the X-Men have all been implanted fake memories, and the humans attacking every day are mere computer programs, “agents Smith” if you want. That would explain why, so far, we’ve seen no mutant who’s dead in 616 ( is Moira still dead ? I don’t remember ) : because they ARE the 616 characters, just brainwashed by … someone or something. That would explain why Danger’s here, who shouldn’t exist in that reality ( I mean, if there are no X-Men, there is no danger room, hence no Danger, right ? so we must be looking at the 616 characters, somehow ) … But I don’t think Magneto’s the one behind it. Maybe the unnamed menace Blindfold sensed at the end of Legacy’s previous issue ( the brother Destiny warned her about ? ) Or maybe … Danger told Jeffries she was conducting some experiments on human morality in Uncanny, maybe Age of X is an experiment of hers ? Maybe she’s twisting the X-Men’s history to see how their moral compass reacts ?

@LCCF that is a great idea and makes sense, the clues do point towards this and may actually explain some of the teasers we have been having with the X Men and these Alternate Reality X Men recently. If it isn’t so it sure would make a very interesting story, one I would definitely like to read

@Lccf Moira is still unfortunately dead.

When Age of X was announced and Carey noted in interviews that it wasn’t quite a straightforward alternate reality tale and that there were some key mutants missing, my mind immediately thought of Danger running a scenario. However, when the pics came out of the new character designs and seeing the implied hookups of Ororo/Namor, Frenzy/Scott, if this is just a scenario and they retain their memories of it, then Carey’s just introduced some challenges to their pre-existing relationships. The Queen of Wakanda unintentionally cheating with the King of Atlantis? Diplomatic nightmare. Speaking of which, will the only narrative role Namor play on Utopia just be the sleazy foreign Lothario? Frenzy and diamond-form Emma could be an interesting slugfest if it ever came to that- both are arrogant and hard (figuratively and literally) women but express it in different ways. The blank camera tends to support the idea that Fortress X is a bubble prison, much like what Danger is doing to her captives on Utopia. I do hope that there’s a little more to it than that.

Actually, come to think of it, Age of X metaphorically reminds me of 1990s X-Men were all about and what I kinda/sorta hoped Second Coming has put to an end: the X-Men were constantly embroiled in unending string of threats that, in the long view, really just blur. Every marketing cycle they faced a threat that would destroy everything as they knew it and at the end of the arc, retreat back to their base of operations to rest up some and fight the same type of battle in essentially the same ways the next time. After awhile, the X-Men seemed to be more about gang warfare since the only thing of lasting consequence they brought to their world was even more battles, particularly amongst themselves. Not REALLY the best example to us in the real world of how oppressed groups should react or make the world a better place and a life under constant siege really isn’t all that much to look forward to (as Jubilee noted in the opening of Chapter 2).

I think Im going to wait for the trade on this series.

I might have to pick this us now. Sounds cool, and Carey always seems to have good ideas for Rogue. Where the narration is concerned, the shift between the unaccented “I” and the accented “ah” does sound like a contrived means of concealing a surprise, but it also sounds like a legitimate way of signaling that the reader’s relationship to the character has somehow changed. Perhaps we hear her thoughts in her voice because we’re now closer. Perhaps we need to read through the accent because we’re farther away and must encounter her voice as slightly foreign. Given that the surprise changes our relationship to the narrator, emphasizing that shift through a shift in style is not the worst thing in the world.

Meanwhile, in regard to our friend the Concerned Reader, I don’t see much point in correcting fine points of grammar on the internet myself, but…It’s true that Ms. Thompson employed the reflexive pronoun in a way not currently accepted by the Chicago Manual of Style, for what that’s worth. Still, it is now incredibly common to see a reflexive pronoun whenever one participant in an exchange speaks briefly in the role of a moderator. Just listen to politicians describe their meetings and phone-calls. The offending pronoun becomes reflexive in reference to the scenario rather than the sentence in which it is uttered, which means there is a convincing rationale for the usage.

So basically, much like Second Coming, these Age of X issues are going to be chapters of a story, and it’s a toss-up as to whether the title characters of any given book will actually appear in an issue of their own book. I wonder if I can refuse my reserve copy of New Mutants #22 and put the book on haitus from my pull list for the duration of this latest nonsense. Thank Zarquon that X-Factor is apparently not getting pulled into this.

Pennyforth, the New Mutants (here it’s Magma, Moonstar, Sunspot, Dust, and Karma) will get their time to shine next issue and most likely the rest of the crossover. They’re going to be at the forefront. And Moonstar looks awesome. Take a look at it; see if you’d be interested. That’s the only way you’re going to know whether or not to pick it up. Besides, it’s only 3 issues of New Mutants that this will cover.

Concerned Reader

February 27, 2011 at 4:38 pm

We’re being grammar nazi’s what?
Don’t leave us in suspense!

Didn’t read the other piece, so I can only comment on yours, dear.

@Concerned: And one of the few perks of providing free content for people to read and obsessively call out grammar technicalities because they have nothing better to do is that I can go in and edit my comment typos, dear.

Mike Carey is a reliably entertaining writer, so I’m glad he is apparently getting to mastermind an X-Crossover. So far, I am enjoying “Age of X.” Magneto’s children, Polaris, the Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver are conspicuous by their absence. Perhaps we will learn what role they play in this universe later. I think the Stepford Cuckoos are in prison, but where is Emma Frost?

I didn’t even think about a missing Emma. IF she’s not shown in the brig with the other TPs, then perhaps Rogue will be seeking her out? According to the files Carey wrote for major players, Magneto’s children are dead.


Magda Eisenhardt: Wife, dead (circumstances of death not known).

Wanda Maximoff: Daughter, and Pietro Maximoff, son. Both dead (see: Operation Red Hot)

Lorna Dane: Possibly another daughter. Was incarcerated at Alcatraz, but died while trying to escape. Officers were disciplined: her use as a bargaining counter against Magneto might have been considerable.

All this discussion, and not one person seems to have noted what Kitty Pryde said. There are clues there, both at the time of her capture and in her dialogue with Legacy: she keeps using the terms “nowhere” and “nothing.”

Then, there’s the fact that that the stars all look off…

@Sean Ah, but we did see Emma imprisoned at the end of 245, after Magneto’s locked up Kitty. She’s wearing a power-restraining helmet, too.

Which reminds me – why isn’t Blindfold wearing a power-restraining helmet?

@New Reader: Maybe it isn’t a power-restraining helmet so much as a telepathy-blocking helmet (like Magneto’s normal helmet). Although, I think Illyana is in that prison scene and I think she’s got a helmet on too?

I thought that was a Cuckoo at first, but I see the white/silver lipstick now, definitely Emma. So you think that would be Magik beside her, Matty? I just assumed that was another Cuckoo. I guess since she’s been in the future, she’s in the brig as well.

As for nothing being outside the walls, then why would we have Avengers outside the wall? And since we haven’t seen Husk yet in Fortress X, she may be out there. But if she in Fortress X, she may kill Kitty, if she’s already killed someone who tried to relay info from Fortress X to the government.

If we aren’t looking at the 616 characters (or a direct offshoot) I’ll be very disappointed in this storyline. Everything is a little too close to the main universe. The cast is the same, and a lot of character quirks remain even though there would be little reason for that to be so. Basalisk, Wolverine, and Psylocke are the only characters that really look different and Psylocke is just pre-ninja. One of the best things about AoA is the commitment to the time of divergence. Each character then gets thought through about how they would actually be. Danger, Jeffries (wouldn’t Forge make more sense), Rao, Namor, Pixie, and Bling are . . . odd choices for an alternate reality. I know that Carey has a larger plan, but if there’s not going to be that larger payoff at the end this falls flat for me as not well thought out.

[…] konventionell dubbelsplash på s 2-3. Chad Nevett och Kelly Thompson på Comic Book Resources tyckte att Age of X: Alpha var en miss eftersom hela historien börjar i så lågt tempo, medan denna första del har allt det Alpha […]

This is a interesting Convo and I definitly agree with LCCF I have the exact same thoughts.
@Kelly Thompson the Whole I/Ah thing IS NOT THAT SERIOUS ur being a grmmar Nzai Overall both issues are good, I do agree that the Age of X Alpha wasnt needed but it is not Irrelevent!!!

Excellent blog anglais de dialogue x sur les BD !

[…] away in high security prison. A very promising start, although like Kelly Thompson and Chad Nevett at CBR I am not sure that starting with last month’s Age of X Alpha issue was necessary or smart. […]

To be honest, it was all the shirtless guys in the preview art leading up to this storyline that made me buy the books in the first place. Heck, one of them (David?) was even walking around with low-rider pants with the top button unbuttoned. More shirtless guys, please! :)

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