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The Line It Is Drawn #31 – Superheroes, Then and Now

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Now on to the bit!

So every week, I ask a question here. You reply to it on our Twitter page (just write @csbg with your reply) and our SIX blog sketch artists will each pick one of your suggestions and I will post them here every week. So every week you will have a new question and you will see the top six choices from the previous week.

To qualify, you have to be following us when you reply – so go follow us and then give your answer to the following question/challenge (All suggestions due by 3:00 AM Pacific, Friday, March 11th).

Next week’s theme is…

Insert a superhero character into a famous music video.

Read on for the six sketches that came about courtesy of the last question/challenge!

Come up with scenarios where a current comic book characters meets up with him/herself when he/she first appeared.


I’ll put them in alphabetical order based on the name of the Twitter user who made the suggestion.

All copyright and trademarks of the following characters are held by their respective owners!

All six regular artists showed up this week, so Sean’s piece will be in this month’s Reader Art Gallery, which will be up soon!

b_granderson suggested:

current batman uses a batarang to knock gun out of hand of old batman “what did i tell you about guns?”

Nick Perks is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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b_granderson suggested:

mcfarlane-esque spider-man (contorted with thick webbing) swinging along side ditko-esque spider-man (no contortions, thin webbing)

Chaz Folgar is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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b_granderson suggested:

oracle wistfully watches out her window as batgirl (babs) swings by in the night

Caanan Grall is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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B_2quared suggested:

Current Bart Allen meeting up with his young Impulse-self saying something like “Was I ever this young?”

George Zapata is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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BigMike20X6 suggested:

Superman faces the pre-Action Superman from the original Siegel and Shuster story.

Daniel Irizarri is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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MechanisticMoth suggested:

John Stewart comments on his former Afro.

Michael Magtanong is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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Thanks so much to all of the suggestion-givers and, of course, our awesome artists!

Now go make suggestions for next week’s theme!! There’s not a lot of time left, as I wasn’t able to get these up until now (internet connection problems the past two days)!


Great work all!

Kid Flash/Impulse, Oracle/Batgirl, and John Stewart take the top for me this week, and the commentary on the Superman piece is hilarious! Really great stuff from everyone!

Ha ha! Oh man, Daniel, you continue to bring the funny… Nice one!

Good job, one and all! :D

What I especially love is that Daniel picked up the intent of the Superman meeting with me actually saying it.

That Oracle one is very poignant. Amazing work

The Batgirl/Oracle entrant….LIKE!

Matt Lazorwitz

March 10, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Great as always. I do feel I should mention that the Superman one (awesome as this one is) was in reference to this Superman, I think, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Reign_of_the_Superman.jpg

Wow! Awesome work all around. I love the Superman one, even though I am sure that is not what was mean by the term “Pre-Action” Superman.

“What I especially love is that Daniel picked up the intent of the Superman meeting withOUT me actually saying it.”
Is how the post should have read :p

great week, with some great bits of comedy here and there. Apparently i was wrong in the superman I drew, or I wasn’t. It all depends on Big Mike, i guess. He seems to have liked it so THATs all that matters. : ) I’m glad that regardless of the flub people have liked it.

I love Nicks Batman, more so than the contrast in art styles he was able to use, i absolutely love his attitudes with the different batmen. He was able to take the concept with the quotes that they gave him and added in his own flavor to things.

Chaz poked innocent fun at the ol’ McFarlane spider-man, and made the type of drawing i love his work for. THE COLORS! everywhere, so nice and so pretty!

Caanan’s depressed me. but i think that was the point. Great job on that drawing, man. lots of simple, raw emotional pull.

George’s Limited color palette was the most convenient, heh. seriously it looks like he colored the whole thing, but really it only has 2 colors.

In the opposite spectrum is Mic with his fully colored beauts! If there’s ANYONE who can pull off that awesome 70s jive-talk, its you Mic. Its blaxploitation, with out the exploitation, so i love it.

For the record, I picked mine because BigMike was kind enough to leave the suggestion vague. I usually pick the ones that’ll give me the most leg room, and thats what i had with this piece. funny thing how I was able to draw what he was hoping for regardless! THAT right there made my day. : )

I picked mine for the same reason, Daniel. There were a lot of rigid suggestions this past week, which doesn’t engage my imagination much, unfortunately…

What? Is no one going to ask what the “Spoiler Alert” reference means on the poster in my Batman picture?
Well I will have to tell you anyway – see http://corporaterecords.co.uk/artists/Spoiler+Alert%21/Spoiler+Alert%21+E.P/ for some really great tracks!

That’s interesting you mention that, Caanan, as I thought that the suggestion you drew seemed to be fairly fully-formed, idea wise.

Maybe it’s because a lot of them had already-written jokes that didn’t quite match my own sense of humour – thus, the complete departure from it. ;)

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I see what you mean.

“Maybe it’s because a lot of them had already-written jokes that didn’t quite match my own sense of humour – thus, the complete departure from it.”

thats basically the issue i had, Caanan. Every word of that sentence.

Maybe it’s because a lot of them had already-written jokes that didn’t quite match my own sense of humour – thus, the complete departure from it

I felt the same way as a reader…I didn’t like that the suggestions with the exception of Green Lantern and Superman ones spelled out the jokes, down the to speech bubbles to use. I like the installments where the artists have more leeway better.

Addendum, I want to specify why I didn’t like. I’m not insulting the jokes made by the people making the suggestion. It’s just that in previous installments, you read the suggestion, then you move your eyes down to the picture to see where the artist chose to go with the suggestion, usually being pleasantly surprised. In this one though, because you get the joke immediately in the suggestion, when you scroll down and see the picture following the suggestion to a tee it’s a little anticlimactic, a feeling of deja vu.

@ Rob T.

I thought it meant the originally Superman from the story where he was a bald guy who ruled the Earth with his power. Reign of the Superman was the name of the story I think?

Either I’m wrong or that’s just not what the artist thought.

I don’t remember seeing this topic before. I wish I’d had a chance to suggest Hellcat meeting Patsy Walker.

I said ‘story’ but I did mean the cape & tights followup prototype rather than the bald baddy from ‘Reign’ . Love that Badge shaped S-Shield.

I adore all of these. I would declare a multiway tie for my favorite, save for one little distinguishing note on the Superman cover: the caption on the lower right. That is damned good satire. Well done.

Good job as always guys. As mentioned above the Babs one is sad but that was its intent. Even my least favorite made me grin a bit. This is an amazing feature.

I said ‘story’ but I did mean the cape & tights followup prototype rather than the bald baddy from ‘Reign’ . Love that Badge shaped S-Shield.

It’s not the word “story” that has people thinking you meant the bald scientist version, it’s the fact that you said “pre-Action.” If you meant the first Superman with the badge shield, he debuted in Action #1. He had no pre-Action appearance.

I’d seen a sketch with the badge shield that was purported to be from 1935, predating the Action Comics appearance, That’s what I was going from.

Caanan Grall. The incredible storytelling of your piece… I’m blown away.

I did like that Caanan and Nick were still able to add lil nuggets into the background with the imagination “hampering”

Daniel and George hit the right tone with theirs….

Michael and Chaz had me cracking up with their works…Poor Ditko Spidey and Chronos….

Great Work!

I’m afraid I don’t do Twitter, but I have to toss out my idea for next week: Thriller, starring Brother Voodoo.


That Oracle/Batgirl pic is fantastic!

Green energy Afro-comb for the win.

Was Caanan Grall trying to get some brownie points with Brian Cronin, putting Was Superman a Spy on Oracle’s windowsill?

chaz folgar is a terrible artist. sorry, but every piece he does for these features is dreadful

Chaz Folgar has a unique style. It, to me at least, is reminiscent of Mike Allred’s work. Keep it up, Chaz.

Caanan can’t help it if Oracle has great taste in books! He just has to be faithful to her likes! :)

Gotta love those Easter Eggs. And I /knew/ Babs played WoW. Always had a feeling :p

Wow, couldn’t disagree more with the sentiment in the Superman piece…. how can the idea of selflessness and altruism ever be irrelevant? It may not be cool, but it’s certainly not without social relevance.

@ Pops Gustav:

Batman is just as selfless and altruistic, i think. Thats not what i’m calling “not socially relevant” anymore, What i was talking about in the piece, specifically, is the social injustices that Supeman fought during those first years of his creation. He’d beat up wife-beaters, punch down residential projects because he knew they were a form of segregation, he fought for the immigrant.

Now its just alien invasions and walking across america to see where he lost touch. There is now optimism or wonder to the character. I don’t pick up an issue of superman and feel like that is the Man Of Tomorrow, with the EXCEPTION of All-Star Superman. But sadly thats what i mean, Apparently everyone except Grant Morrison had forgotten how to make Superman truly the source of inspiration he once was.

I’m in no way knocking his moral fiber.

also, sorry for the rant, i just feel there was a sentiment to my piece that I hadn’t properly expressed. Yes there’s a bit of a joke in there, but this is the most bitter piece i’ve drawn, i think. It depresses me almost as much as Caanan’s.

also, i think i should add that there will always be exception and writers here and there WILL write good superman stories that will, in fact, cut to the core of superman. but the fact is that the majority of his other stories in some way or another conclude in a slug fest with a very powerful entity and some phony baloney moral dilemma or something


This week already had me at “Pussy…” I had to do a second take to make sure it wasn’t Daniel’s piece. lol!

First, “Pussy…”… then, “SNAP”… and, finally, “Like.” I was rollin’ w/ those 3 words alone.

Oracle made me sad, then the product placement in her scene and Impulse’s smile made me glad. The Supermen seriously had me busting a gut.

What a rollercoaster! Bravo, gentlemen!

Thanks for the kind comments on the GL piece! I figured I’d sneak in Chronos to explain how the meet-up was made possible. I’m very pleased w/ the GL Afro pick.

I love Chaz art!


Wow. The superman dialogue is spot on, but the Oracle/Batgirl sketch is flat out amazing. Punches you in the gut, and definitely strikes an emotional chord. Once again, I am reminded why I am such a big Caanan Grall fan

Great work from everybody this week! Seeing what everyone comes up with is always a blast!

And a special THANK YOU to Big Mike and mic?. I appreciate the support, guys! (By the way, Mike Allred’s one of my favorites artists!)

I think it’s that superheroes are metaphors, mythology, etc. Do you think we’d actually have offshore drilling at all if the ocean was a country? No, but Aquaman and Mera put their foot down in Brightest Day because they are meant to inspire. This is what a world with heroes looks like, better but not perfect.

Great work by all. I loved the Oracle/Batgirl sketch. Lump in throat time. Beautiful job.
The Superman dialogue is pretty sharp. Sad but true!
And, as a huge fan of Justice League animated series, the John Stewart sketch made me laugh out loud.

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Sorry thats no Mcfarlane Spidey.

I would like to see the jive talking Blade meets modern day blade
that would be hilarious …

and also I like the spider-man one but erm it does not seem
to convince me that its old meets new …the artist has a great style
but one looks almost as good as the other due to design and colouring
nothing more

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