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DC/Marvel Tourney, DC Street Level Region, Final Round
The final round of voting begins now!
Simply choose which characters you think would win in a (non “to the death”) fight in the following match-up. The voting concludes 48 hours from right now!
Each competitor has, let’s say, a half hour to prepare (so it’s not like Dick just walking up to Bruce and punching him in the face out of nowhere – Bruce would be prepared), and can use whatever weaponry you figure would be typical for that character (so Batman – either one – can use whatever weapons you would expect him to normally use, but he can’t go get, I dunno, the Infinity Gauntlet, or whatever).
Enjoy!






34 Comments
Brian Mac
March 27, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I pick…Batman!
Tom Healey
March 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm
No way Bruce could lose this.
Mecha-Shiva
March 27, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Brian Mac is crazy, it’s obviously Batman.
R.
March 27, 2011 at 2:00 pm
This is tricky. We’ve seen them fight before, but never in a situation where they knew they’d be fighting. As far as I know, anyway.
Leslie Fontenelle
March 27, 2011 at 2:05 pm
The master beats the apprentice. Bruce is more committed, he probably has known for a long time how to take out Dick if necessary, and nobody profits from that 30-minute prep-time as much as him.
Thok
March 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Batman. Always Batman. Always driving Batman Bats!
Farson89
March 27, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Pfft, like Dick has a chance in hell.
The Crazed Spruce
March 27, 2011 at 3:15 pm
There are times when even the best teacher can be surpassed by his star pupil.
This isnot one of those times. Bruce all the way.
buttler
March 27, 2011 at 3:28 pm
This is where we find out that Bruce implanted a hypnotic suggestion to shut Dick down if necessary way back when Robin was in short pants. When Bruce says the words “Penny Plunderer,” Dick stops fighting and clucks like a chicken.
Always prepared. That’s what makes him Batman.
Greg Hatcher
March 27, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Bruce is going to win it in a walk, but I think that’s why I could never get into these kind of stats-board contests. Because the better and more interesting story, the one with the most drama and inherent conflict, would be if Dick won.
Chris Thrailkill
March 27, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I’m going with Batman.
Smokescreen
March 27, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Bruce will win. However, I could see (and voted) for Dick, because I don’t think Dick would be dumb enough to try a one on one fist fight. I would instead imagine he’d use his acrobatics to keep everything in the air and do hit and run attacks. Would that be enough? I’m not sure, but it would probably give him a chance.
Sijo
March 27, 2011 at 5:37 pm
“Because the better and more interesting story, the one with the most drama and inherent conflict, would be if Dick won.”
IF it were written well, that is. They often come up with the cheapest excuses for these eg. maybe Bruce was distracted by his latest romantic tangle to focus on the fight, etc. It tends to feel forced, which is why we have these fans vote-offs… at least fans they try to defend their points, with the companies it’s often “there it is, deal with it”.
ZZZ
March 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Bruce wins by hitting the Bat-Failsafe button on his belt and activating the nannites in Dick’s bloodstream that he’d always hoped he’d never have to use. Actualy, that was a joke, but Bruce probably does have the ability to neutralize all of Dick’s gear, or at least come up with some sort of transmitter that makes his utility belt short out and fall off at the start of the fight.
AJ Ryan
March 27, 2011 at 5:53 pm
They have fought before. Sometime around the Bruce Wayne Fugitive/Murderer storyline, I believe.
Dick could not land a single blow.
In my experience, bad writers just make their characters more powerful to compensate for lack of characterization. And as Mark Waid pointed out, Batman is probably the most poorly written character in comics.
When people say “Batman can beat anyone” it is perhaps the greatest indictment of the character that can be made.
Rene
March 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Bruce is the guy that always wins a fight, even when he shouldn’t.
Dick is the guy that always loses a fight, even when he shouldn’t.
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to predict who’d won if they fight!
Travis Pelkie
March 27, 2011 at 6:36 pm
I haven’t been following these matchups, but I wanted to agree with Rene here. Bruce would come out on top, mostly because Dick would be all angst-y about “am I good enough to fight Bruce?” and all that stuff. Good lord, Dick, you’ve been a superhero for years and years! You’ve beaten all sorts of villains with Bruce and the Titans and stuff, you’re the linchpin of the DCU (which is why he wasn’t killed in Infinite Crisis, basically), and you’ve been with a smokin’ hot alien woman! Stop thinking you’re not good enough!!!
Um, this wasn’t any sort of therapuetic thing for me, no sir…
MarkAndrew
March 27, 2011 at 9:28 pm
“Bruce is going to win it in a walk, but I think that’s why I could never get into these kind of stats-board contests. Because the better and more interesting story, the one with the most drama and inherent conflict, would be if Dick won.”
I don’t see this as a stats board contest. I’m voting for who would win if I wrote the comic.
John G
March 27, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Robin wins. Just because.
Mystic1
March 27, 2011 at 11:06 pm
I agree with AJ Ryan above. I voted for Grayson in order not to contribute to the “Batman can beat anyone” riff that makes him such a poorly written character. Batman is a fallible human being. He would be a better character again if he did fail sometimes, like any human being will on occasion do.
Gavin Bell
March 28, 2011 at 2:17 am
Batman CAN be a poorly written character, but when he’s done right, he’s the best character there is in all of comics.
Now that I think about it, the fact he’s such a great character is probably the reason he’s able to survive bad writing… and maybe the reason he’s easy to write badly, too. Frank Miller’s tested this at both extremes, obviously.
AS
March 28, 2011 at 2:17 am
I do wonder if Dick would have good enough ammunition to mess with Bruce psychologically. That said, Bruce would still do better on that front too.
bad_trotsky
March 28, 2011 at 4:18 am
Ok I guess it did have to come down to this. I was interested in the earlier rounds but you know how these things usually end.. Batman vs Batman was unexpected. We know Bruce plans for everything. But who is to say Dick did not plan for this situation either? Dick was always intended to wear the cowl eventually and he learned from the best.
chad
March 28, 2011 at 6:59 am
this was a hard one to call since both are good fighters. though in the end bruce winds up taking it since he might have taught dick most of what he knows but proably had a few tricks up his sleeve to take the win.
T.
March 28, 2011 at 7:26 am
This is the simplest and most accurate analysis of all.
Enrique
March 28, 2011 at 7:52 am
Bruce gets another >90% win here. Hopefully he’ll get a challenge in the coming rounds.
P. Boz
March 28, 2011 at 10:35 am
My vote for Dick was a vote against the Bat-God.
danjack
March 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Dick would try his hardest, but Bruce would be able to put him down.
Then, if i’m writing this battle, Dick launches into his sneak attack that Bruce would never see coming from his own son & Dick would win!
Ummmm… of course this would never happen in 1 million years, so never mind.
DFTBA
Jeff R.
March 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Dick would win, but only because Bruce would let him. Because this isn’t a deathmatch, but I’m assuming that there are real stakes here and both apparently think very strongly that they ought to win the fight, and Bruce,when it comes down to it, trusts Dick’s judgment a bit more than his own.
Rusty Priske
March 29, 2011 at 5:59 am
This should be 100% to 0% but it won’t be because some peopel are contrary… and that’s fine.
Corey DeGraaf
March 29, 2011 at 12:17 pm
I think if it was a match the the limits set above, I truely believe Dick could win as long as he fights by his own terms and doesn try to fight like Batman. He needs to fight the the acrobatics and percision of his Nightwing persona while also using the brutality he has gained from being Batman, and Deathstrokes apprentice. I mean come on, he created his own fighting style. He has learned from some of the top best and figured out how to mold all of it in to his own personal skill.
Obviously i havent talked about Bruce much and before i do, Dicks final test was the gauntlet, having to stay undetected while Bruce tries to track him. I would say if any non-superhuman could take Bruce it would be Dick.
Bruce (thanks to fanboys and writers alike) is the most unstoppable non-super human being in the DCU. He has taking on gods, super humans, aliens, intergalactic police, armies of assassins and live to tell the tale. He seems to have a plan for everything and everyone and the tools for each job. He takes the time to watch his opponent before and/or during their battles to find their weakness.
The big thing is that from growing up working with Bruce, Dick should be the most capable to bluff a weakness in front of Bruce and change his style and momentum to suit his needs against his mentor.
Nyeme
March 29, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Bruce preps for everything but Dick preps for Bruce. I’m pretty sure that during their beef, Dick probably went “Bruce” and devised a scheme/plan (with Alfred’s help) to take out Bruce. We can assume Dick already knows that Bruce has a plan to take him out, since Bruce has a plan to take out everyone; so maybe Dick snooped around until he found it what it was. So when Bruce comes with that “I was hoping I’d never have to use this” application, Dick would have a counter and have one of his own. Of course the writers would just say that Bruce suspected Dick would find out his plan, and come up with a way to take him (Bruce) out, so he has a counter-measure in case Dick goes rogue and attacks him. SMH’
Seriously though, Dick would take the fight to the air, use his quickness as well as the tricks his acquired through the years. Bruce is disciplined but Dick could make it a dirty fight. if ANYONE is equipped to tyake down Bruce, it’s be Dick
Zor-El of Argo
March 29, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Dick has always been the better acrobat, and he has learned from allies other than Bruce. The JLA is a team of superstars who never train together because they are all already “the best.” The Teen Titans trained together and learned from each all the time. And so Dick learned from true warriors like Starfire and and Donna Troy. Bruce is to busy being mysterious and intimidating to admit that he could actually learn something from other heroes.
Dick can throw a few suprises at Bruce. Maybe not enough to win, but certainly enough to make it interesting.
jpbl1976
March 30, 2011 at 9:07 am
“How can Dick possibly win?! I’m the goddamn Batman!” – Bruce Wayne