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What I bought – 27 April 2011

Vocabularies are crossing circles and loops. We are defined by the lines we choose to cross or to be defined by. (A. S. Byatt, from Possession)

Man, that's a busy cover Dick is gonna beat up that shark right quick! I'm sorry, but my mind went right to it Charlotte, NO!!!! He ought to clean those boots, man! That lizard is totally checking her out Based on the quotes on the back, everyone loves this! Oh, the blood!

No time for links today! No, Travis, not even one like this. Wait, what? D’oh! Okay, I’m serious. Not even for Jessica Alba’s thirtieth birthday today. Damn it!

Batman, Incorporated #5 (“Master Spy”) by Grant “You’ll accept that her stinger comes out of her helmet because I say you will, fanboys!” Morrison (writer), Yanick Paquette (penciller), Michel Lacombe (inker), Nathan Fairbairn (colorist), and Pat Brosseau (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, DC.

I don’t claim to be a smart person. I’m clever enough, I suppose – I can tie my shoes and navigate a motor vehicle and I won’t go see Fast Five even though I’m dying to know how the Japanese dude (he’s played by an actor of Korean descent, but wasn’t he Japanese in the movie?) who was Lucas Black’s mentor in Tokyo Drift is somehow alive in the fifth one – I mean, that just doesn’t make any sense unless both the fourth one and the fifth one take place, chronologically, before Tokyo Drift, right? What the crap?

Where was I? Oh, yeah – I’m not claiming I’m bright. I’m certainly not as bright as the God of All Comics, who writes comics that only the initiated – like Tim Callahan – can understand. But I get by, and when a Morrison comic comes out, I just hope that G-Mozz doesn’t go too Mensa on me and allows me to read his comics without making my brain hurt. Usually, I can. But what of Batman, Incorporated #5? Why does it vex me so?

Okay, kids, read along (a pretty big SPOILER ahead, by the way). On page 3, Dr. Dedalus is talking to some dude. I’ll just assume the dude showed up in the background of a panel of Batman #657 or something years ago and only David Uzumeri noticed it. Anyway, in Panels 2-4, Dr. Dedalus very clearly poisons the young man, and he falls backward down the steps. In Pane 5, Dr. Dedalus hands the young man, who is very much alive, a piece of paper. Now, later we find out that Dr. Dedalus is, well, not what he appears. So is this Dr. Dedalus imagining what’s going on? That seems so, given the shift in coloring that accompanies panels 3 and 4. But later, we see his fantasy come true, so who actually kills the younger dude? And, when we consider what we learn about the Dr. Dedalus on the island, how did he do any of it? How did the Island Dr. Dedalus know where to walk even if he wasn’t actually speaking? Whenever you read a Morrison comic, you’re aware that the GoAC walks a fine line between “I’ll let the audience discover this on their own” and “There’s nothing here that the audience can use to discover this on their own.” Is this an example of the latter? I call on the nerds among us to clarify!

Anyway, other than that, this is a fine issue. Cool art, good dialogue, interesting use of Batwoman and Azrael (wait – that’s not Azrael? the hell you say!), and a nice twist. As always, one day Morrison won’t write Batman anymore, and I can sit down and read the entire crazy mess and look for all the connections. That day is not today!

Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ½ ☆ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

Man, he did NOT just say that about Batman!

Detective Comics #876 (“Hungry City Part One of Three”) by Scott Snyder (writer), Jock (artist), David Baron (colorist), and Sal Cipriano (letterer). $2.99, 20 pgs, FC, DC.

We finally get around to the “Giant Killer Whale in the Lobby” story that we were promised quite some time ago, and yes, it’s as cool as the recent Francavilla issues have been, which is nice. Jock’s first arc on the book was not bad, but Snyder got a little silly and superheroic at the end, which I hope this arc does not do. I mean, it’s a fine mystery – a young lady is discovered inside the belly of a killer whale which is itself left in the lobby of a Gotham bank that happens to be run by the daughter of Anthony Zucco, the gangster who killed Dick’s parents. We don’t need any silly superheroic stuff to make this a good story, do we?

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Jock does some very nice work here, even though I don’t like his version of Dick. I don’t know why – he’s just a normal white dude with black hair, so it shouldn’t be that hard – but something about his Dick is weirdly off, and I can’t quite put my finger on it. Both Dick and Gordon in the scene in the lab look like they’re about to cry (this is called “Claire Forlani Syndrome”), but at least Gordon looks like Gordon. Don’t ask me to explain it, because I can’t! But the rest of the book is drawn very well. Jock does his usual excellent job with full-page spreads, and the ending is nice and tense.

One last question: Shouldn’t Gordon just come right out and admit he knows who Batman is? I mean, I get that “Batman, Inc.” has allowed Dick to do detective work right in front of Gordon, but that scene is really pushing it. The fact that DC won’t allow Gordon to admit he knows seems to imply that Gordon is stupid, and Gordon isn’t stupid. I was chuckling throughout that scene because it’s soooooo obvious that Gordon knows, but God forbid DC lets a writer say that out loud. Jeebus.

Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ½ ☆ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

Well, that can't be pleasant

Morning Glories #9 by Nick Spencer (writer), Joe Eisma (artist), Alex Sollazzo (colorist), and Johnny Lowe (letterer). $2.99, 26 pgs, FC, Image.

SPOILERS, maybe? Man, I try not to spoil things, but then it’s so hard to write anything about these issues! Forgive me!

Ah, twins. The plot device of the intellectually dishonest and imaginatively bankrupt. Seriously. I don’t have a problem with this particular issue as it fits into the overall series, but using twins in fiction pisses me off, because like a lot of things in fiction, they’re never like real twins, they’re simply carbon copies of each other. I can deal with the fact that one twin might forget who he is, especially having spent so much time at a school that seems to exist only to destroy kids psychologically, but that’s only because I’m along for the ride with this comic, so I’ll cut it some slack. But the idea of twins in fiction annoys me, because twins aren’t that uncommon, so why wouldn’t a writer try to portray them realistically? I’ve known three sets of twins fairly well in my life. One pair are two of my best friends in the world, and ever since they were about 8 years old, it’s been pretty easy to tell them apart. I know that the people from Morning Glory Academy have never met the twins so they wouldn’t know, but my point is that even though my two friends lived together and liked a lot of the same things, they also dressed differently and had different hair cuts, so it was easy to tell them apart. Why should one of the twins in this comic, separated from his brother, look so much like him? Why wouldn’t one of them have longer hair or a bit of facial hair? The reason I’m not too angry is because it seems like Spencer might be setting something up where one twin is trying to look like the other, so he’s crafted his look to be as close to his brother as possible. That would be fine. But twins are distinct human beings, and fiction writers often seem to think they’re the same person, split somehow in two. Even the other sets of twins I’ve known, who were much closer to each other, were distinct, and even though I didn’t see them that often, I could still tell them apart. I do hope Spencer is doing something sinister with Jun and Hisao, because then at least I could deal with this a bit better.

So why does Miss Daramount deny one of them entry into the school? I know everyone there has the same birthday, but do the twins have different birthdays because the lateness of one of them meant one was born at a few minutes before midnight and the other was born a few minutes after, meaning they have different birthdays? That seems to be the implication, but is that correct? If so, why does the other twin eventually get in? I’m puzzled. Once again, I need clarification! (Boy, I’m needy today, aren’t I?)

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Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

If only it were that easy!

Scalped #48 (“You Gotta Sin to Get Saved Part Four of Five: Are You Honest Enough to Live Outside the Law?”) by Jason Aaron (writer), R. M. Guéra (artist), Giulia Brusco (colorist), and Sal Cipriano (letterer). $2.99, 20 pgs, FC, DC/Vertigo.

Boy, Dashiell is kind of a douchebag, isn’t he? I mean, he’s always been kind of a douchebag, but it’s really evident in this book. Poor Officer Falls Down. What will he do?

As usual, there’s not a lot to write about Scalped because it’s so damned good. What I find fascinating is that through it all, Dash has remained an FBI agent – whenever Aaron gives us a scenario where we think he’ll be tempted to ditch the bureau and go over to the dark side, he reminds us that as much as Dash hates Agent Nitz, he hates Red Crow just as much. It doesn’t really make him a healthy person psychologically, but it’s interesting that he resists the bullshit that Red Crow is selling. It’s also very interesting that Red Crow honestly seems to trust Dash – this issue doesn’t feel like a test, it feels like Red Crow really does want Dash to become a bigger part of the business, so I imagine that Red Crow is in for a nasty surprise (unless he actually does suspect Dash, but I don’t think he does). Aaron continues to do fascinating things with these characters – there are no heroes anywhere to be seen, and whenever someone does something a bit noble, they turn around and remind us what shitheels they can be too. It keeps us on our toes, but it also helps immerse us even more in this world and realize how no one has a good way out. Hence, you know, the spider web motif.

Yeah, Guéra and Brusco kill it on this issue. Dang.

Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ½ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

That's why you don't take the brown acid

Uncanny X-Men #536 (“Breaking Point Part Two”) by Kieron Gillen (writer), Terry Dodson (penciler), Rachel Dodson (inker), Justin Ponsor (colorist), and Joe Caramagna (letterer). $3.99, 21 pgs, FC, Marvel.

Kitty looks stupid Kitty looks stupid Kitty looks stupid!!!!!

Okay, I’m done. Let’s move on. Um, SPOILERS, sort of? I’m sorry, people! I’m keeping it as vague as possible!

You know, I’m not a big fan of this kind of “twist.” I mean, I like to see everyone’s better angels dictate policy, but at the same time, couldn’t everyone pretty much see this coming? I mean, really, Magneto? Really? Why are people so stupid? Let’s say the X-Men have been doing this kind of thing for 15 years, Marvel time. We could even push it to 20 if we want to make the original class in their mid-30s by now. Shouldn’t they maybe have learned a little bit about trust and the lack of it for some people? I’m just saying. After a while it goes from Admiration That The Mutants Don’t Treat Others The Way They Themselves Have Been Treated to Holy Shit Are They Fucking Stupid To Allow This To Happen Again?!?!?!?

Anyway, good dialogue kind of overwhelmed by the sheer stupidity of the characters. But I likes me some good dialogue!

Is that Forge, by the way? If I appeal to nerd knowledge three times in one post, do I need to turn in my nerd card because I’m just not cutting it? Noooooooo!!!!! If I can keep it, I swear I’ll watch Doctor Who while I tape a photograph of Karen Gillan to my Wookie statue and pretend she’s sitting right next to me! I SWEAR!!!!!!

Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

Ponder that, comrade!

Warlord of Mars #6 by Arvid Nelson (writer), Lui Antonio (artist), Adriano Lucas (colorist), and Troy Peteri (letterer). $3.99, 23 pgs, FC, Dynamite Entertainment.

I’m not quite sure what to say about this issue. I mean, Nelson moves the plot along, and John Carter and Dejah Thoris profess their love for each other, and we learn that not all Green Martians are heartless bastards, but it’s not like it’s the greatest comic in the world. I enjoy it for the sheer plotting of it all – Nelson isn’t doing the best job with characterization (his work with Dejah Thoris is better on her spin-off mini-series, for instance), but it’s just a fun adventure story that zips along nicely. I’m still mystified how Dejah Thoris keeps those golden nipple covers on, but that’s just part of the silliness! As always with this, I can’t really recommend Warlord of Mars, because it’s not all that good, but I do enjoy watching the adventure unfold.

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Rating: ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

One totally Airwolf panel:

He's totally copping a feel!

The Bulletproof Coffin by David Hine (writer), Shaky Kane (artist), Richard Starkings (letterer), and Jimmy Betancourt (letterer). $17.99, 197 pgs, FC, Image.

I’ve never read a bad word about this. Will I be the first to trash it? I sure hope not.

Invincible volume 14: The Viltrumite War by Robert Kirkman (writer), Ryan Ottley (penciler/inker), Cliff Rathburn (inker), Fco Plascencia (colorist), Sheila Saldana (color assistant), Ivan Plascencia (color assistant), and Rus Wooton (letterer). $19.99, 202 pgs, FC, Image.

The fact that this collection isn’t named after a cheesy 1980s/1990s sitcom kind of depresses me. Kirkman can’t have run out, right? I mean, I get that it’s all important and shit, but still. Anyway, this might be the last Invincible volume I get. It’s not that the book is bad, but it does feel like Kirkman is running low on ideas. We’ll see. I might get the collections just because Ottley is so motherfucking good.

Here is The Ten Most Recent Songs Played On My iPod (Which Is Always On Shuffle):

1. “Arc of the Curve” – Fish (2007) “If love is blind then I will never see again”
2. “All That Was Said” – Hamell on Trial (2003) “How can we change what has begun?”
3. “Tomorrow Comes a Day Too Soon” – Flogging Molly (2004) “But wake the gods, it’s Judgement Day”
4. “Electric Love” – Cinderella (1990) “And if the world should stop turning our love would be alive”
5. “Many Too Many” – Genesis (1978) “You set me on a firmly laid and simple course, then removed the road”
6. “Unpindownable” – Chumbawamba (2008) “I grew feet so I could crawl out of the sea”
7. “I Want to Go Home” – James (2008) “Kissing is forbidden, biting leaves marks”
8. “So This Is Love?” – Van Halen (1981) “A man needs love to live, I’m the living proof”
9. “Blister in the Sun” – Violent Femmes (1983) “Big hands, I know you’re the one”
10. “Throw Me Out” – Marillion (2008) “I tore apart my oldest friend”

Anyway, it’s a big weekend across the pond. Just remember, Britishers, this is your new overlord:

You better start being nicer to her! (Many more here.)

As some of you may know, I’m leaving my humble abode to head east to the wilds of Pennsylvania for a bit while my daughter enters a clinic to help her with her stubborn refusal to eat properly. I leave on Saturday morning and may have to stay there for as long as two months, depending on the program and how well she takes to it. The clinic is not too far from my parents’ house, so I decided to stay with them instead of on-site – so for a time, I will be a total stereotypical comics nerd, although I won’t actually be in the basement. I decided to put my weekly comics buying on hold rather than go to the shop near my parents’ house – my retailer here will simply hold onto my books and I’ll have a big ol’ stack when I get back. So my weekly reviews are going on hiatus for a while. I have a bunch of collections and graphic novels to review, plus I just got this month’s Previews, so I’m not going to stop posting (yes, I hear the collective “DAMN IT!” from the peanut gallery), but I’m not doing weekly reviews for a month or two. I’m already bummed that I won’t get to read Mouse Guard or Atomic Robo next week, but I’ll get them when I get back!

Have a nice day, everyone!


On Clarification Request #3:

No, that is not Forge. That is, in fact, Madison Jeffries, formerly of Alpha Flight. He’s very much like Forge, only more Canadian and slightly less stable in the mind. Comes from having conversations with toasters and cell phones all day, I suspect. Forge, I believe, exploded during one of the story arcs of Astonishing X-Men (Warren Ellis’s run).

it shouldn’t be that hard – but something about his Dick is weirdly off, and I can’t quite put my finger on it.

My inner 12-year-old thanks you for the amusement.

Dear scary vision in the Scalped panel: Actually, yeah, kind of.

Forge, I believe, exploded during one of the story arcs of Astonishing X-Men (Warren Ellis’s run).

Whereupon he changed his name to Splorge.

I have not been reading X-Men recently but, can assume Magneto somehow betrayed the team?

Currently, I am reading the new Thor series from the beginning (up to 606 at the moment). While I think the story is good and art amazing I keep getting pulled out of it by idiocy shown by the Asgardians: FOR EFF’S SAKE! WHY IN THE NAME OF ODIN ARE ANY OF YOU LISTENING TO LOKI!

It really annoys me.

Bulletproof Coffin WAS great, but the ending was also a BIG letdown.
I don’t want to call it a cop-out, but it was so creatively inconsistent from the rest of the book it felt like one.
LOVED every page leading up to it tho.

I mean, that just doesn’t make any sense unless both the fourth one and the fifth one take place, chronologically, before Tokyo Drift, right?

-> From what I heard, Fast Five does take place before Toyko Drift.

I haven’t read Uncanny yet, but it’s way too soon for Magneto to betray them…. I think. My guess is that he was alluding to Magneto being naive somehow this time. Hell, I don’t know.

I doubt Magneto betrayed them so soon. It’ll happen eventually – and frankly, I think Cyclops is an idiot for trusting him – but they seem intent on pushing this “Magneto’s with the X-Men” angle right now, so I doubt that’s what happened. More likely the heroes did something stupid, like pull the equivalent of trusting the dude with the Fu Manchu mustache.


You’ve been warned! All that said, nothing exciting to report. No betrayal as yet, just Magneto being foolish for plotting purposes.

@Greg. Not be nitpicky…but I don’t think this

“Ah, twins. The plot device of the intellectually dishonest and imaginatively bankrupt.”

Is what you actually mean, right? I mean you’re not objecting to the use of twins in fiction. You’re objecting to the MISuse of twins in fiction…right-o? I only nitpick because I have twins in the sequel to my book…but I commit none of the sins you list…so I hope I’m in the clear…will you let me know? ;)

Following the end of last issue, I’m guessing that Whedon’s one-armed alien who asked for asylum turned against the X-Men just like every single reader knew he would. Which would certainly make the characters look dumb.

I confess, Greg, that I was lost by this issue of Batman, Inc., too. I think the scene with the guy collapsing from the poisoned apple was supposed to be Dr. Dedalus’ fantasy, but reading the issue, it still felt like there was some kind of exposition I had missed along the way.

Billy Bissette

April 28, 2011 at 6:35 pm

jjc, Uncanny does have a new writer, and new writers love to play the “This character isn’t the way I like, so I’m gonna change it right now” game…

Billy, yeah, I know Gillen is new, but I trust his ability to write a proper character turn with hints dropped along the way. If he sticks around long enough I suspect he’ll be the 2nd best writer Uncanny has had. I’ve read them all since Giant Size #1. Sadly.

Many times, while reading Batman Inc., I find that I’m totally confused. I keep thinking this is because I don’t keep up with all of Batman lore, but I don’t think so. I think sometimes it just doesn’t make any sense. Overall, I truly enjoy the series, but this odd feeling is still lingering after every issue.

Eric T.: Dang. I should have known that was Madison Jeffries. Thanks!

Cass: I honestly didn’t think of that, but it’s pretty funny. I must be getting too mature to notice silly stuff like that. That makes me sad.

B Ash: Yeah, why anyone trusts or even listens to Loki at this point makes no sense to me. If I were Thor, I’d punch him the face every time I saw him, before he could say a word. Just on principle.

Bruce: Man, who knew the Fast and the Furious movies would have such a complicated chronology?

Kelly: NO TWINS!!!! Yeah, I do mean the misuse of twins, but it seems like almost every writer I’ve ever read who uses twins misuses them, so I had to generalize. Will you be the one to change my mind?!?!?!?

Dan: I’m glad I’m not the only one!

Yeah, Magneto is still a “good guy.” As jjc points out, he acts rather naive about something even though he ought to be on the lookout for duplicity all the time!!!!!

They already established that Tokyo Drift was set after four, so I guess it makes sense that five would be before it, as well.

Good luck with your daughter, Greg! Best wishes to everybody in the the family. I’ll miss the reviews every week, but I’m happy to see you putting first things first.

What Brian said — it’s been stated a long time ago the fourth takes place before Drift.

And what Dan said — good luck with your daughter’s treatment.

That probably will be the last Invincible trade you buy, Greg. I wasn’t impressed at all with The Viltrumite War. The only selling point is seeing all the beautiful ways that Ryan Ottley can draw body members being ripped off.

Best wishes to you and your daughter and I hope everything works out well.

It’s crazy that a series like Fast and Furious has an inner chronology and perhaps even a mythology? Who knew?

Who drew that cover to Morning Glories. I have to give whoever it was props for actually drawing Asians that look Asian. I don’t know why, but it seems like one of the hardest things to draw in fiction is an Asian-looking Asian. Japanese, Korean and Chinese comics draw Asians with huge eyes or multicolored hair and in general they never look Asian. Asian artists in American comics don’t do a much better job either. Jim Lee for example just drew Asians that looked squinty versions of his generic white people.

Finally read my buddy’s copy of Uncanny. Magneto comes off like a giddy 5 year old. Kind of funny.

I’m sure this isn’t a big part of the story but what about this Breakworld metal doesn’t Magneto understand? He’s been shown manipulating it plenty of times. Maybe it’s just my stupid engineer brain that needs to know these things.

I’m with grant morrisons thoughts on gordon: the only people outside of the bat family who know are joker and gordon. For one the truth means nothing and the other would never say out of respect, but bruce knows both know.

@Greg: Time will tell as to whether I can actually change your mind (or if what I do will even be any good) but my twins are very different.

Good luck with your daughter man

I don’t think it is just the birthday in Morning Glories, I think the time is also important. The reason I say this, is that both Jun and Hisao were born on May 4th.
Why do I say this? Well, first of all, Hisao was born second as evidenced in this line:
Jun’s mom: “…Hisao certainly took his time when I was giving birth to them. Jun was born almost a half hour earlier.”

But now, Hisao was born on May 4th at 23:59 as evidenced in the following exchange:
Morning glories academy dude: “But–the boys medical records say they were born at the same time 23:59, the fourth of May”.
Jun’s mom: “…Some silly nurse not doing her job. Must have put Hisao’s birth time down”

This means Jun and Hisao have the same birthday. However, this is the information that triggered the Academy not wanting Jun. Therefore, my conjecture is that the Academy only wanted people born at 23:59pm on May 4th of that year. This would make the coincidence even bigger, a lot more people share a birthday, than sharing a birth-time.

About half a million kids are born every day. So on average a little under 6 people are born on the same minute. Which is about the number of kids recruited at MGA.

@Enrique: Though the issue hurt my head and I eventually gave up trying to figure it out – too many comics to read this week and flashbacks of elementary school math class “if Hisao was born at blah blah blah and his brother Jun was born at blah blah blah, but they switched places twenty minutes later…which one is brainwashed now?!” – I agree with your take – that it’s about the 23:59 time specifically paired with the date.

That said, highly unlikely that twins would be born within the same minute (unless both were born via c-section perhaps) as the average time between twins is something like 15+ minutes. Surprised those smarty pants at the academy of evil wouldn’t look a little more closely into that before committing.

Hey Burgas, take care, man. Since I’m on my sister’s computer right now, I’m not going to look at the links :) , but I will when I get home (I’m up in Boston for the big Comic Con!)

And I can’t read ANY of this because it’s all comics I’m going to get and haven’t read yet. Or there’s spoilers for stuff I don’t want spoiled. Arrgh!

I didn’t know that it was established that Tokyo Drift was after the fourth movie. In the beginning of the fourth one, Sung Kang says he’s going back to Japan, and I just assumed they jumped forward enough in time that Tokyo Drift had occurred. Okay, I’m not going to talk about Fast and the Furious anymore!!!!

Enrique: Whoops, yeah, I forgot about that time thing. I agree with Kelly, though – twins are never born at the exact same time, so that seems like an odd mistake.

Thanks for all the good thoughts about Mia, everyone. We’re keeping our fingers crossed that new people will be able to have new strategies. That would be nice.

T.: Sorry, I forgot about you! The cover artist for Morning Glories is Rodin Esquejo.

@Kelly Thompson: I think you give the reason why the smarty pants at the academy assumed they were born at the same time. If it were a C-section, they would be born in the same minute. Why would the academy know that it wasn’t a C-section?


May 2, 2011 at 5:01 am

Two months cold turkey?
Good luck, man!
(Good luck with you’re daughter as well, of course).

when a Morrison comic comes out, I just hope that G-Mozz doesn’t go too Mensa on me and allows me to read his comics without making my brain hurt. Usually, I can. But what of Batman, Incorporated #5? Why does it vex me so?

Yeah, I’m going to have to re-read that entire arc.
I was totally bumfuzzled by the time I got to the end of the issue.

I mean, I get that “Batman, Inc.” has allowed Dick to do detective work right in front of Gordon, but that scene is really pushing it. The fact that DC won’t allow Gordon to admit he knows seems to imply that Gordon is stupid, and Gordon isn’t stupid. I was chuckling throughout that scene because it’s soooooo obvious that Gordon knows, but God forbid DC lets a writer say that out loud. Jeebus.

Hmm… I never really consider he’s meant to know, I always see it as ‘it makes no sense if he’s such a good cop*, that he doesn’t know when even his daughter is in on it’, so never really question it.
I thought Snyder was hanging the lampshade on it in the first issue he did, where they brought up Gordon’s personal history with Dick, and the fact Dick used to be a cop – figured that was his excuse for why Gordon would be chummy with him, without knowing.
You could well be right though – guess it’s a good excuse to re-read.

*Although there’s been so many stories about mistakes he’s made, I’m not sure that’s true.
Maybe he’s a below average cop, but Gotham cops are that poor at their jobs/on the take, that he stands out as a hero.

I didn’t know that it was established that Tokyo Drift was after the fourth movie. In the beginning of the fourth one, Sung Kang says he’s going back to Japan, and I just assumed they jumped forward enough in time that Tokyo Drift had occurred. Okay, I’m not going to talk about Fast and the Furious anymore!!!!

I don’t think you ever get to whinge about people who care about continuity in comics ever again.
I’m with matthew – I had no idea anybody actually gave a toss about these films, let alone enough to discuss the continuity.
I thought it was just raising cars, then at the end there’s a race to the death… rinse and repeat.
Shows what I know!


May 2, 2011 at 5:05 am

Racing cars that is, not raising them!
I’d totally be into the series if it was Vin Diesel raising cars.

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