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Comic Critics #162!

Here is the latest installment of the Comic Critics strip, courtesy of Sean Whitmore (writer) and Brandon Hanvey (artist)! You can check out the first hundred and sixty-one strips at the archive here and you can read more about Sean and Brandon at the Comic Critics blog.

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29 Comments

looks like josh does not want to admit the small vile finaly at least had clark in the supes or even liked it a little.

Smallvile. How could such a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE show last for ten seasons?! Are teenaged girls the culprit once again? Or is it the retarded bible-belt that enjoyed such a brain-dead show so much? I WANT AN EXPLANATION.

Smallville was not supremely let-down disappointing like LOST or BSG because you knew Smallville was going to disappoint you week after week. The Booster Gold episode was OK.

Ethan Shuster

May 16, 2011 at 7:10 am

I cannot believe the amount of people I know of that watched Smallville all these years, and hated it most of those years.

But, seriously, you couldn’t make a fitted suit for the guy to wear for like, ONE scene?!?

Panel three: Badass.

Apartment 2G. Heh.

I saw some band nerds gushing about the last episode before my graduation ceremony Saturday… so based on that very small sample I just witnessed, I’d guess the people that liked the show were nerds, but not COMIC nerds.

I like Josh’s face in panel 9. It does a good job conveying that he’s both angry at himself for watching Smallville all these years and about to break down and cry in private because it’s over.

Joe H…that’s quoted for truth. The only ones I heard like this finale was ones that a) never picked up a Superman comic before or b) only tuned in to see the suit be donned on TV.

I needed to watch the JLU finale immediately afterwards to wash away Smallville from my head…..

…And we so needed an exclamation point for that final Josh close-up too!

“That was never the point.”

HAH! Good visual storytelling in this one.

But yeah, we’ve all been there. For me it was Lois And Clark. For today’s fans… Smallville.

Travis Pelkie

May 16, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Nice closeups, but since I never followed Smallville, a lot of it’s lost on me. But sweet visuals, nice work.

I saw some band nerds gushing about the last episode before my graduation ceremony Saturday… so based on that very small sample I just witnessed, I’d guess the people that liked the show were nerds, but not COMIC nerds.

I think people are in serious denial here, like people want to believe their comic book fan peers above liking crap like Smallville, or want to believe that comic nerds are a better form of nerdery than other types of nerds. Get real, PLENTY of comic fans loved Smallville. Have you seen some of the comics that comic fans like? Comic fans are the ones who voted Jeph Loeb into the top 50 writers on CSBG’s poll and who made Loeb’s Hulk a top seller? Loeb, the same writer who wrote the WORST seasons of Smallville. Not even the best seasons.

And we want to pretend comic fans have taste too superior to enjoy Smallville?

funkygreenjerusalem

May 16, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Comic fans are the ones who voted Jeph Loeb into the top 50 writers on CSBG’s poll and who made Loeb’s Hulk a top seller? Loeb, the same writer who wrote the WORST seasons of Smallville. Not even the best seasons.

Well, they were voting based on his comic work, not his tv work.

I’ve got the hardcover of his first year of Hulk – that was some seriously fun comics.
Dumb, no doubt, but really fun.

Didn’t Jeph Loeb write Season 2 of Smallville? I would say that was the show at its best.

Tom Fitzpatrick

May 16, 2011 at 9:02 pm

Watched the finale, as far as series finales goes, it wasn’t that bad. Could have been alot worse.

Let’s face it, what exactly were we supposed to expect, really?

Clark finally flies: check.

Luthor returns and forgets who Clark really is: check.

Perry White is the editor of the Daily Planet, and Jimmy Olsen’s the photographer: check.

Lois Lane is the reporter and Clark is the bumbling co-worker: check.

Papa Luthor’s dead, Sister Luthor’s dead, Lex’s the president: check.

The series over and everyone’s happy (or not): check.

I don’t get it.

What WAS the point?

Forget it Mary; it’s Smallville.

The final scene we should have gotten: As Clark finally flies off from the Planet, you see Batman in profile in the shadows as he says,”Hh. It’s about time.” Fade to black.

Smallville was not supremely let-down disappointing like LOST or BSG because you knew Smallville was going to disappoint you week after week. The Booster Gold episode was OK.

You lost me right there – The Lost finale was great.

people can bitch about the LOST finale as much as they want, and the last season was weak but ask what would have been better and all the sudden they are pretty quiet.
BSG now that show just became some kind of scientology lite in how bad it got.
Lets celebrate smallville ending, whether u liked it or more likely didnt, its time was way over due.

people can bitch about the LOST finale as much as they want, and the last season was weak but ask what would have been better and all the sudden they are pretty quiet.

I personally had no problems with the LOST finale because after being burned by X-Files and other shows, I never allowed myself to believe they ever had a true grand plan all along. I took it for granted they were making it up as they went along and that there would be more left unanswered than answered. I just decided to enjoy the story going forward and enjoy the episodes on a standalone basis, but for the fans who were obsessively collecting and reconciling clues from Season 1 and trying to see how everything fit together, I can understand their frustration.

And contrary to what you say, all of those fans had plenty of suggestions on how to improve the final season and finale, at least the ones I’ve spoken to. It’s usually “I would have explained this old clue” and “I would have explained this mystery from season X” and “I would have explained the connection between X and Y characters and explained what the significance of this event was” and so forth and so forth.

That’s EXACTLY how I felt about Lost, T. Same with Battlestar Galactica, although I personally was less interested in that show. With both series, I was just curious to see what they’d pull out of their posteriors to bring things to a close, not what everything had been “building up to since day one” or some nonsense like that.

I do believe it’s possible to create a show that can plan a true 5 year arc that isn’t just made up as it goes along. I wish I could see it more often. The only time I saw it really done was in my memory was JMS’s Babylon 5. I think a good clue about whether creators actually have a grand plan or are making it up as they go along is by looking at the number of clues, conspiracies, red herrings and teasers. The more clues, teases and conspiracies a mystery has, the more likely it is to be made up as it goes along and make zero sense when ultimately resolved. I call this The Wolverine Rule of Grand Narratives. Babylon 5 had way less clues and teases and conspiracies than BSG for example.

I think people are in serious denial here, like people want to believe their comic book fan peers above liking crap like Smallville, or want to believe that comic nerds are a better form of nerdery than other types of nerds. Get real, PLENTY of comic fans loved Smallville. Have you seen some of the comics that comic fans like? Comic fans are the ones who voted Jeph Loeb into the top 50 writers on CSBG’s poll and who made Loeb’s Hulk a top seller? Loeb, the same writer who wrote the WORST seasons of Smallville. Not even the best seasons.

And we want to pretend comic fans have taste too superior to enjoy Smallville?

I watched SMALLVILLE for most of the first six seasons and enjoyed four of them. I ducked back in to catch heavily promoted episodes that were (to be honest) mostly pretty rough viewing. Although, I thought the did a nice job with Zatanna.

In my experience, the SMALLVILLE audience was very different from the comic shop audience. It was interesting to watch a superhero story work for people that typically do not enjoy them. It got silly after a couple years, but the “No Tights, No Flights” rule really did seem to open up the Superman mythos to people that otherwise would have avoided it.

Most of the flaws the show developed over time derived from restrictions placed upon it by DC. Smallville had to be the head injury capital of the world as various people learned Clark’s secret, “forgot” and re-learned it. Similarly, the relationships that are the core of show like that couldn’t really progress in any sort of a normal way. That seemed to change a bit in later years, but by then I had lost interest.

capt usa(jim)

May 17, 2011 at 1:57 pm

I just started watching Smallville regularly with season 9 and this season, I’m a fan of the show, the finale and how easy it was to beat Darkseid was disappointing, the fact that nobody ever verbally gave a good response to the why Clark needs Lois(it was like the writers knew it had to happen and yet they couldn’t figure out how to put it into words) and the writers love of those crappy wedding vows, seriously those words wouldn’t change anyones mind who is on the fence, but the writers acted like they wrote something special. Arguably the crappiest wedding vows of all time—watch Chuck for some decent ones.

This was probably my favorite strip yet. Cracked me up.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

May 17, 2011 at 7:37 pm

Babylon 5 had way less clues and teases and conspiracies than BSG for example.

The writing was on the wall with BSG in several ways – first, when they decided to bring back the religious angle, after abandoning it quickly at the start of the 2nd series. If you’re watching sci-fi, and suddenly religion comes into it as a powerful force, it’s a good sign they are winging it.
Secondly, and most noticeably, from the start of season four, they started writing out the plot twists of the season before.
If there’s an awesome cliffhanger reveal one episode, and it’s quickly written out in another episode, it’s a clear sign they are throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.

“Forget it Mary; it’s Smallville.”

LOL, Mr Giddes

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