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Dick Grayson Back As Nightwing!

As per DC’s The Source.

I would think that Grant Morrison would be able to write around this, but perhaps not. I really don’t like the idea of this possibly interfering with Morrison’s work. Let’s hope that is not the case!

Kyle Higgins is the co-writer of the nifty Gates of Gotham mini-series out right now, so I’m optimistic about him as the new writer of Nightwing. Eddy Barrows is a fine artist, so I have no real problem there.

Really, we’re just waiting on Batman, Inc. news.

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Let’s hope that’s not Dick.

If Batman Inc. gets screwed because of this, we at least have the Morrison Superman ongoing. Although that also raises the question of why would you work for a company that would pull something like that on you.

Did you just completely skip the headline there, Wally?

If Batman Inc. gets screwed because of this, we at least have the Morrison Superman ongoing. Although that also raises the question of why would you work for a company that would pull something like that on you.

I’m still holding on to hope for the following three reasons:

1. Cutting off Morrison at the knees regarding Batman Inc. is so dumb that I don’t think anyone would do it. It’s not just dumb in the “oh, that was a dumb idea” sense, but it is dumb in the “it is not in your financial best interests to do it”

2. DC is likely going to hold off on the announcements regarding Morrison titles, since they’re their biggest books, so us not having any info about Batman Inc. #1 is not necessarily a bad sign.

3. The Source’s solicit info for Nightwing #1 includes the line: After a tenure as the Batman of Gotham, Dick Grayson resumes his mantle as Nightwing!

That sounds like Dick’s tenure as Batman is still in continuity, in which case Morrison’s Batman Inc. is not necessarily affected at all.

Your reasoning is sound except for this part…

….but it is dumb in the “it is not in your financial best interests to do it”…

I’ve noticed that hardly slows anyone down in comics, especially when it’s in direct competition to the “At last! I get to do the fan-fiction I’ve been waiting a decade to write!” reasoning that has governed so many decisions we’ve seen.

1. Has DC confirmed Morrison’s Superman book yet?

2. All indications are that the relaunch was been in the works for quite some time. You’d have to think that Morrison was aware of what was going on, and planned accordingly. I hope so anyway, since the Batman Inc. is the only DC book I read regularly, and I’d hate to see it get screwed up.

3. Although I really enjoy Dick as Batman, I can see that the Nightwing property is valuable to DC. And it’s not really an identity that works for any other character. So this makes some sense.

Nightwing’s head looks about 15-20% too small.

You know what? I like the costume. I hope the Batman comics are getting simplified. Not every supporting character needs their own comic, you know? I’d be happy with Batman, Nightwing and Batgirl, if not less. I say take the staff you use to make a billion spinoffs, and use them to make the comics longer than twenty-something pages.

@ Brian Cronin: Yes, that line on the solicit info and the fact that apparently Damian will still be around are hopeful news, so I’m still optimistic.

@ DanLarkin: I think the Superman book was confirmed. Brian even posted it here on CSBG.

@ DanLarkin: I think the Superman book was confirmed. Brian even posted it here on CSBG.

DC hasn’t officially confirmed it yet.

@Brian Cronin

You would think though that Morrison must have had some say in the reboot seeing him and Geoff Johns were the guiding the DC universe over the last 5 years.

I’ve noticed that hardly slows anyone down in comics, especially when it’s in direct competition to the “At last! I get to do the fan-fiction I’ve been waiting a decade to write!” reasoning that has governed so many decisions we’ve seen.

Ha! Well, there’s debatable stuff, like “Barbara as Batgirl will sell better than Stephanie as Batgirl” and there’s some plainly evident truths, like “Greg Capullo and David Finch’s artwork sells comics,” so it was not surprising at all to see Capullo on a major title and Finch’s comic continue. Similarly, DC has seen enough of Morrison on Batman to know that the guy continually sells for them, so it would surprise me to see them cut him off before they had to (as in, “before he decides to leave on his own”).

Then again, Marvel did mess with Morrison on New X-Men, so I could be wrong….

You would think though that Morrison must have had some say in the reboot seeing him and Geoff Johns were the guiding the DC universe over the last 5 years.

Yeah, I should have mentioned that as another reason to hold on to hope for Batman Inc. In fact, I think I will retcon it and say that I did say that initially. ;)

Bat-Wing (the African Batman from Batman Inc.) getting his own book is probably a good sign. I hope.

So i just saw at IGN that there is gonna be a Bat-Wing(african batman from INC.) and Red Hood and the Outlaws. To me the showing of a Bat-Wing comics should tell us that yes INC. still happened

If they are all deaged a bit, then he got to have been Batman at an earlier point in life. Hopefully, his self-esteem issues as Nightwing will be less terrible to read through this time around.

William O'Brien

June 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Apparently Inc ends with #10 and Batman Leviathan will come out next year to wrap things up.

Rollo Tomassi

June 6, 2011 at 2:12 pm

I can see them having Dick saying something along the lines “I was only Batman because Bruce was dead. Now that he’s back and Batman again, I don’t need to be Batman also. I’m more comfortable as Nightwing.”

I’m waiting for them to explain Babs as Batgirl if evertything else is still in continuity.

I’m waiting for them to explain Babs as Batgirl if evertything else is still in continuity.

They could always have her get healed. Hell, Batman had his back healed, right?

I think that batman inc will stay around because it is something that could exist very early in the dcu and it gives you a whole sling of batman esque characters to use so if you need a batman in your book you can use one of these. so the french bats, nightrunner or el gaucho the zorro-esque argentinian batman would be good to see in jli. the problem with batman is that you dont want him to be in too many books as a starring roles otherwise it would devalue his appearance the same way wolverine is devalued because he is in too many books he doesnt need to be.

Through all of these announcements, I find myself wondering “WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING WITH TIM DRAKE?”

Please DC, answer this for me.

I love the costume. Red and Black is a powerful color scheme. And it seems to work For the Batman of Batman Beyond and Batwoman. I think getting Dick to go red and black is a smart choice.

It will look real cool if he ever does a Batwoman team up is all I’m saying. In fact. I’m saying this needs to happen stat! More Batwoman is always a good thing.

I could certainly see Dick TRYING for a Batwoman “team-up,” just like he has everybody else in the Batfamily, but I don’t think he’ll get to far with it.

I could certainly see Dick TRYING for a Batwoman “team-up,” just like he has everybody else in the Batfamily, but I don’t think he’ll get too far with it.

Whoops, sorry for the double post.

buttler, he might score with Batwoman if Kevin Smith comes back to write the team up. He could call it “Chasing Katy” or something.

Hahahaha. You’re not wrong.

Hey! I like Kevin Smith! … I would think he has more sense than that. Chasing Amy wasn’t that bad of a movie. The ‘Amy’ in it was actually a straight chick (or bi, its not clear) that leaves the main character because he wants to have a three way with her. It’s not like it is perpetuating the myth that you can ‘turn gay’ or ‘turned un-gay’ or anything. So I’m not sure that joke is exactly on the mark.

Though I think part of the fun of Batwoman and Nightwing is the fact that nobody knows she is gay. I thought it was funny in 52. No reason to drop a good joke that hasn’t run its course yet…

Also. Like I said. Matching costumes.

“Amy” in Chasing Amy was an ex of Silent Bob’s whom we heard about but never saw. The main female character, Alyssa, was definitely bisexual–generally preferred women and identified as a lesbian, but then fell for a guy. Definitely not “straight,” though.

Welp, there goes any interest I have in Dick Grayson as a character. (I only seem to give a crap when he’s wearing a Batman suit).

@ Bill Reed

Funny enough, I feel the same way. Dick has matured too much to revert back to Nightwing or Robin. He was more interesting as Batman, by way of a contrast to Bruce.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

June 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Then again, Marvel did mess with Morrison on New X-Men, so I could be wrong….

How do you mean?

I know Jemas got in the way of a couple of his ideas – at least with Marvel Boy – but the undoing of all his work on the franchise happened after he signed exclusive with DC, which apparently Marvel found out about at the con it was announced, and weren’t too happy about it – I think that played a big part in the decision to send the books in the opposite direction.

To me Dick Is Nightwing. It’s an identity unique to him (yes I know it’s based on old Superman stories but he has made it his own.) Did anyone really expect him to just stay as Batman’s stand-in forever?

As for DC not messing with Morrison’s plans, have we forgotten Final Crisis already? Though hopefully they learned from that mess.

And shouldn’t DC had tested Bat Wing with a miniseries or something instead of giving him his own series already?

Dick as the Batman of Gotham always struck me as a little odd, given that every other member of Batman, Inc that isn’t Bruce Wayne has a different codename: Batwing, Nightrunner, etc. So I’m glad Nightwing’s back, even if the new uniform screams Joel Schumacher..

FunkyGreenJerusalem

June 6, 2011 at 10:23 pm

And shouldn’t DC had tested Bat Wing with a miniseries or something instead of giving him his own series already?

It is odd, but not to odd – a high-tech batman-esque character fighting in Africa is a pretty decent concept to hang a series on, and me thinks DC is trying to appeal to as many people as possible, so are wanting to get more black lead characters with their own books from the get go.

If anything, this kinda explains the solicitation for Batman 713, Dick Grayson at an identity crossroads. I just the hope the transition will feel natural

Tom Fitzpatrick

June 7, 2011 at 5:20 am

Sounds like to me that the whole Flashpoint thing is just another word for SNAFU.

I could be wrong, tho’. ;-)

Well out of all the announcements, this is the only book that interests me so far. I grew up with the Teen Titans, so Bruce doesn’t hold has much attention for me as Richard. Guess I’m dropping Justice League Batman, Detective, and will finish trade waiting on B&R.

Four books to one… Way to go DC. (Jury’s still out on Batgirl and Teen Titans.)

I was really enjoying Dick as Batman, so I’m disappointed that he’s going back to being Nightwing. But I’m probably more disappointed that he’s going back to Nightwing more or less as he was, with a red emblem instead of blue. I would have liked to have had a more Batman inspired costume change, with a cape even, something that echoed his career as Batman.

“a high-tech batman-esque character fighting in Africa is a pretty decent concept to hang a series on”

*Koff* Black Panther *Koff*

But hey, Marvel rips off DC all the time. Did you know they had a character named Bat Wing (an obvious Batman parody, too). Hey maybe this is DC’s way to get back at them! “You won’t let use the name Captain Marvel on our logos? Fine, we’ll steal this obscure character of yours and give him his own comic book. Neener-neener!” :D

Batwing was more of an ersatz Man-Bat; you’re thinking of Nighthawk and/or Blackwing.

I was really enjoying Dick as Batman, so I’m disappointed that he’s going back to being Nightwing. But I’m probably more disappointed that he’s going back to Nightwing more or less as he was, with a red emblem instead of blue. I would have liked to have had a more Batman inspired costume change, with a cape even, something that echoed his career as Batman.

In that case, back by popular demand…

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/justice-league-of-america/55-1.jpg

The solicit for this book makes me groan, given that it’s another hackneyed “Dick returns to his old Circus” story that we’ve seen at least three times already.

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