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2011 Top DC Characters #40-36

After nearly 1,400 ballots were cast, YOU the reader ranked your favorite comic book characters from 1-10. I assigned point totals to each ranking and then tabulated it all into a Top 50 list. We’re now revealing that list throughout September. Here is the master list of all the characters revealed so far. The countdown continues…

Write-ups later, results now!

40. Huntress – 420 points (5 first place votes)

39. Animal Man – 422 points (7 first place votes)

38. Donna Troy – 464 points (5 first place votes)

37. Sinestro – 475 points (2 first place votes)

36. Impulse/Kid Flash – 545 points (6 first place votes)

Check back tomorrow for Marvel’s #40-36!

33 Comments

Has anyone ever made good use of Animal Man besides Morrison? I guess he placed this high mostly on the strength of the Morrison-penned issues of his own series, which were 20 years ago. Maybe 52 got him some extra votes too… (AFAIK Morrison wrote the AM bits in 52 as well.)

“Who is Donna Troy?” A good question, indeed. I’ve been a cursory reader of DC comics since the late 80s, and I’ve read a lot of comics featuring her, but I still wouldn’t know the answer to that question. How is she different from Wonder Woman, as a character?

Interesting list. With only 8% of the votes revealed, we’re seeing a pretty broad spectrum of characters including Vertigo and Charlton. My guess is that as we continue, it’ll shift to the mainstream DC only. I’m extremely interested to see if Static or any of the other Milestone characters breaks into the top 50.

Biggest jumps up from last time include Sinestro (up 70 places) and Rene Montoya (up 56 places). I’m amused that the biggest drops from last time are Death, Thanos (who loves death) and Question (Vic) who is dead.

Other amusing facts include Lois Lane growing more popular as her marriage is lost and the Flashes dropping an average of 5 points during a major Flash crossover. Voting is up strongly. Death’s votes this year would have put her in the top twenty last time.

The Crazed Spruce

September 6, 2011 at 4:43 am

Well, nothing from my list this time ’round.

I used to love the pre-Crisis Huntress, and at first that kinda coloured my opinion of Helena Bertinelli, but the darker version of the character kinda grew on me after a while. Still didn’t crack my top 2, though.

I liked what little I’ve seen of Animal Man, but I haven’t seen enough to judge him properly. Maybe if I’d read his regular series, he might’ve made my list.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Donna Troy and all, but she’s been written too inconsistenly for me to pick her. And her completely f***ed-up continuity isn’t doing her any favours.

If I’d thought of Sinestro when I put my list together, I might have squeezed him into the teens somewhere, or maybe tied for 21st, but I didn’t, so he missed the cut. He is the iconic Green Lantern villain, though, and that deserves some recognition, I suppose.

I loved Bart Allen at one point, but somewhere along the line he lost me. I think what I once found funny soon became annoying. I missed his maturation in Teen Titans, but I get the feeling I would’ve probably liked it. Even so, he lost me when he became the Flash. (And if they hadn’t killed him off so quickly, he might’ve won me back. Too bad he never got the chance.)

wow…DC is weaker than I thought…

I love Bart, I’m glad he made the list. His character has always been awesome when properly handled. His naiveté when properly handled is adorable, but some writers just didn’t really get that and wrote him kind of stupid. Also always making him the brunt of jokes was not exactly kind to the character but I’ve always loved him, even as Flash, however short lived that was. I hope Scott Lobdell does him justice in the new TT.

I’m glad to see he cracked the top 50. Made my day.

nice picks though sinestroe is another thought would rank higher. other wise nice choices. including seeing kid flash on the list and donna still ranks even though she is one messed up character origin wise.

All right, two of mine on the list (Death and Animal Man). What’s really interesting is that Sinestro moved up so much from the list four years ago. I guess Geoff knows how to write the guy.

My bets are that of my other 8 characters, only Booster Gold, Wally West, and Kyle Rayner will make the Top 50.

I don’t even remember my list. Who the flip did I vote for? Oh well.

I would like to meet the five people who voted Donna Troy as their favorite character.

Donna Troy?!? Amazing. Even a completely personality-free cypher can be someone’s favorite.
Vapid eye-candy FTW!

This is a neat batch of characters, but it is also pretty clear illustration of the problems that DC has in the market. Three of the five characters highlighted have other versions. Four of the five are derivations of other characters.

40. Huntress: I am with The Crazed Spruce on this one. Helena Wayne was an amazing character and I have always knocked Helena Bertinelli for who she wasn’t. Still, the character ultimately found a niche in BIRDS OF PREY.

39. Animal Man: The one totally unique character on the list. Buddy Baker also is a character who languished on the D-list for a couple decades before Grant Morrison used him to make him mark on American comics. More amazingly, he has sort of languished in the decades since.

38. Donna Troy: She is Rodney Dangerfield of the Silver Age. Her lack of anything resembling a coherent origin has allowed the character to wander all over the place. Still, she has been a major character in a bunch of classic stories. Does anyone have an over/under on the date when the relaunch starts being unraveled by the Return of Donna Troy?

37. Sinestro He is a great character, but a terrible name. It is a shame that EMERALD DAWN I & II have been sent down the memory hole. The modern characterization for Sinestro really came from those issues.

36. Impulse/Kid Flash: Bart Allen is probably my favorite of the extremely weak fourth generation of DC heroes. Cassie Sandsmark has a better origin than Donna Troy, but otherwise they are a bunch of Scrappy Doos. Bart at least had his own personality during his Impulse years.

If it was 10, 15 years ago I might have voted for Sinestro. Johns has brought him back into the spotlight but in the process made him much less interesting. As silly as GL’s weakness to yellow was, I found that a lot more interesting than yellow=fear, because fear wasn’t ever particularly relevant to Sinestro’s personality, either his strengths or his flaws. Still isn’t. It seemed like a pretty arbitraty and cliched change. Also, although there are some cool characters in the Sinestro Corps, its very presence makes both Sinestro and the GL Corps a lot less unique/ interesting.

I like Donna, but her story has been a mess since the beginning, and became more of a mess the more people tried to “fix” it. (Although Byrne was by far the worst offender.)

As for Huntress, same here: I was dubious of her for a long time because she wasn’t Helena Wayne, and I didn’t find the added Mafia/Catholic stuff particularly interesting, but I’ve enjoyed the wasy she’s developed in BoP.

Animal Man was a great comic for a while, and I certainly still have a soft spot for Buddy.

I never liked Impulse, but it seemed like the rapid aging/Flash era really messed him up for a lot of people who did like him. As for how or who he is now, I’m not the best judge of that, and it’s probably going to be different later this month anyway.

Okies I can tick off Donna Troy from my list….. as I said growing up in the 80′s, Donna was a lot of things to me: crush, sister, mother figure. I will also say that the Who is Donna Troy? storyline before / during her marriage is one of the heartbreaking yet uplifting stories I have even read. Even though every re-boot that DC had did tried to erode her history and character, the 10 year old still in me can’t ever forget Ms Troy fighting alongside The Teen Titans vs The Titans of Myth….

As far as Bart goes, can we say that his character is symbolic of the schizophrenic problems DC has had over the past 10 years? Here is this fun character in Bart Allen, who was kneecapped by a shotgun to be “Peter Parkered”. Then has his friends taken away along with his mentor. Artificially aged to take up a mantle then killed off needlessly. Through timey-wimey means is brought back to his ‘original’ age only to be…… ok I won’t ruin what Flashpoint did but O COME ON!!! Can fans of the Impulse run be slapped in the face anymore???

I’m glad to see Huntress made it. If you would have told me back in the 90′s that I would ever vote for her in something like this, I would have laughed at you. But I did, and quite highly at that.

To my mind, she’s easily one of the most improved characters in comics as compared to her original post crisis introduction series and other early appearances. Most of which I couldn’t stand. Helena really found her niche in Birds of Prey and the book wouldn’t have been the same without her.

Huntress was in my top ten. I’m hoping to God that the new Justice Society has the original Huntress and Power Girl in it.

Donna Troy? That’s got to be an error or some kind of prank. Not that I have anything against her but she’s probably one of the blandest character in comics.

Huh, Bart made the list. I was expecting him to turn up at 54 or so.

Sinestro’s one of the bigger jumps (although I’m expecting a few other characters to have even bigger jumps than him pointwise.)

Oh, and Animal Man continues the Vertigo drop.

I haven’t read the Birds of Prey issues featuring Huntress (had to cut my pull list before the end of the Dixon years), but I absolutely loved the Cry for Blood mini. Easily one of Greg Rucka’s best comics and it made me like the character.

I have no use for Kid Flash, but Impulse was a great character. He wasn’t broke, there was no need to “fix” him.

@Tuomas – Delano (most notably with Steve Pugh) made great great great use of ANIMAL MAN by pushing the character even further into the politics of animal rights, more so than Morrison’s. A bit like Moore’s use of SWAMP THING as an exploration of 80s-era green politics while turning the character into a powerhouse in his own right. Delano had a very caustic sense of humour, too.

“Here is this fun character in Bart Allen, who was kneecapped by a shotgun to be “Peter Parkered”. Then has his friends taken away along with his mentor. Artificially aged to take up a mantle then killed off needlessly. Through timey-wimey means is brought back to his ‘original’ age only to be…… ok I won’t ruin what Flashpoint did but O COME ON!!!”

Comics, everybody!!!!

“I have no use for Kid Flash, but Impulse was a great character. He wasn’t broke, there was no need to “fix” him.”

That`s just Geoff Johns. Everything that isn’t what he wants, it’s broken and needs “fixing”.

No-one I really like at all this week except Animal Man. Bart was great when he was Impulse, but not so much as Kid Flash – and even less so as The Flash.

@Tuomas – Delano (most notably with Steve Pugh) made great great great use of ANIMAL MAN by pushing the character even further into the politics of animal rights, more so than Morrison’s.

The first half of Delano’s run was good. It went way off by the end.

Also though, Peter Milligan’s short run was brilliant.

Animal Man is my first DC top 10 to show up. Donna Troy and Impulse would be in my top 50, as well as Supergirl and Deadshot. Out of the rest of my top 10, 4 will definite be on here, 2 might be, and the other 3 are members of the Legion of Super-Heroes, so I think it’s doubtful.

how can Donna Troy beat out Lois Lane, the Huntress and Animal Man?

@buttler: I must respectfully disagree. First off, yellow as just…yellow seems so much more arbitrary. I think it makes much more thematic sense to have fear be the force that can stop willpower. And Sinestro as dictator of Korugar was very much a fascist image, and fascism has always been about fear, both being inspired by fear of outsiders and disorder and using fear to enforce order.

The first half of Delano’s run was good. It went way off by the end.

Also though, Peter Milligan’s short run was brilliant.

I kinda liked how ANIMAL MAN under Delano really went for the jugular and just kept attacking and attacking, up until the end. I find it slightly irksome how Animal Man as a character (up until today, at least, as I feel Lemire’s take on the new book is more Delano’s than any one else’s) is more defined by Morrison’s admittedly good albeit really just an exercise on Alan Mooreing than any real superheroics or character study. I thought and still think Delano’s run was better with how the character was treated as if he mattered AS a character and not just as a SUPERHERO CHARACTER, which is how he approached Constantine too in HELLBLAZER. It’d be great to have the Delano ANIMAL MANs in trades.

And yes, agreed with Milligan!

Don’t care at all for the Huntress. She’s doing waaaay too much hanging-on in the Batbooks.

Yayy Donna!!!
love her to bits! growing up with the New Teen Titans – she was the girl that all the boys wanted to date and all the girls (and some boys) wanted as their BFF. She had many of the the powers of her sister Diana but her experiences were much more human and perhaps more relatable.
Of course her character has been mangled by many recent writers but for some of us Donna will always be a DC icon!

Ronald Jay Kearschner

September 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm

I liked Earth-2 Huntress when Joe Staton drew her.

Bart was my #1, but only as Impulse. You can keep Kid Bland.

Although, I hear that he’s been getting some of his old personality back, so maybe I’ll become a fan once more.

I want my write ups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can fans of the Impulse run be slapped in the face anymore???

By completely wiping out his history as Impulse, which this reboot seems to be doing?

I want no part of that.

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