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Meta-Messages – Peter David Gives Young Justice Nightmares…

All October long I will be exploring the context behind (using reader danjack’s term) “meta-messages.” A meta-message is where a comic book creator comments on/references the work of another comic book/comic book creator using the characters in their comic. Each time around, I’ll give you the context behind one such “meta-message.” Here is an archive of the past installments! If you have a suggestion for a future meta-message, e-mail me at bcronin@comicbookresources.com.

A few different folks suggested the opening pages of Young Justice #1, where Peter Davis gives Robin, Superboy and Impulse some…familiar dreams.

In the opening of Young Justice #1, Peter David has his three leads (Robin, Superboy and Impulse) go through some nightmares. Each nightmare is based on something Peter David did to a comic book character whose ongoing adventures he told.

For instance, Aquaman…

Supergirl…

and the Hulk…

After their initial shock…

Robin goes even further with the meta-joke…

It was a clever way to open up a new ongoing series!

28 Comments

Just re-read this issue as a free digital download. Lots of fun.

This is one of the problems I have with David’s writing, honestly. The constant wink is gross.

It was awesome.

Impulse FLASH!

Those are some muscular 15-16 year olds.

Stephane: Yeah. Nauck’s not a terrible storyteller, but his drafting is gross.

They sleep in their costumes? Seriously? On a camping trip?!

To Joe rice
I agree, a little would go a long way but he goes overboard.
In the robin panel did we really need to heard about a beard to get the joke? too much

loved batman making a crack about aquaman growing a beard after losing his hand to robin. plus always loved impulse going impulse crush puny humans. nice pick

This just reminds me how much I miss Peter David’s Supergirl.

Keep going through Peter David’s Young Justice; it’s full of meta-messages. One in particular that comes to mind is a scene where Impulse and Superboy are complaining about how their favorite comics titles always get cancelled (shortly after the cancellation of both SUPERBOY and IMPULSE); Robin walks in (his series was still going strong) and they give him pointed looks …

Man, I really loved this book when I was younger – I was 14 when #1 came out. A few friends and I would walk to the comic shop near my high school pretty often to buy issues of this and the other DC teen hero books. I’ve got fond memories of Impulse, Robin, Wonder Girl and Superboy as they were then.

For whatever flaws it had, “Young Justice” was a lot of fun, great for younger readers, and I wish we had more superhero comics like it now.

Thanks for the slice of nostalgia.

I’m sorry, if you don’t like the original Young Justice, you just don’t like fun period (just like TPTB at DC).

Or your idea of fun doesn’t involve smug punsters and inside joke boredom accompanied by ugly art. I love me some fun comics, but Young Justice always made me roll my eyes.

Peter David is just not funny. Not at all. Not even a little.

@Collected Editions:
He already did that one. It’s #18 on the list.

I’m sorry, but if you don’t like what I like, then you just don’t like fun!

I love YJ, full of jokes and metamessages. Nauck art gets more cartoony but more fitting for the product.

I thought I liked fun, but clearly I was mistaken. I like jokey comics, and I like some Peter David stuff, but I’m just not interested in these characters and could never sustain any interest in this series. What we learn from this is that I hate young people. (Although I do like Runaways and Avengers Academy, which may complicate matters.)

I like an inside joke, but not one that lasts five pages and doesn’t actually mean anything other than to reference the writer’s other work.

This comments section does a pretty good job of demonstrating that humour is subjective, huh?

Yup. I enjoy Peter David, enjoyed Young Justice, and wish there were more of them collected.

I enjoy Peter, but not David.

The t.v. show on Cartoon Network is way better than that comic! It is like a huge disgrace for this guy to mess up these somewhat cool characters.

Really… an earing … on Super Boy… what kind of world do we live in… the 90’s… REALLY!!

Mychael Darklighter

July 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm

jesus, he was created in the 90s.
good book. good characters. pipe down.

Sorry for coming late to this discussion…

It was a quite fine comic, a nice conter-weight to the “complexity-driven” and “dark” storylines that filled the magazines then (not saying there wasn’t good stories in those settings; just that it’s nice seeing variety). Here in Brazil the first five issues were published, but the series remained mostly ignored by our publishers: due to the lack of space (and money!), they were forced to choose carefully what they would print, and often had to put on paper the stories which, even if not very good, were necessary to the “chronology” of the goddamned “universe”.

I hate these two words when they become objects of cult. And “continuity”, also, in any occasion!

Doesn’t bother anyone that they sleep in masks and costumes and boots? How would Impulse sleep with those wing thingies on the sides of his head. If I have to wear a band aid on my face while I sleep it drives me nuts.

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