CSBG Archive
Meta-Messages – Peter David Gives Young Justice Nightmares…
All October long I will be exploring the context behind (using reader danjack’s term) “meta-messages.” A meta-message is where a comic book creator comments on/references the work of another comic book/comic book creator using the characters in their comic. Each time around, I’ll give you the context behind one such “meta-message.” Here is an archive of the past installments! If you have a suggestion for a future meta-message, e-mail me at bcronin@comicbookresources.com.
A few different folks suggested the opening pages of Young Justice #1, where Peter Davis gives Robin, Superboy and Impulse some…familiar dreams.
In the opening of Young Justice #1, Peter David has his three leads (Robin, Superboy and Impulse) go through some nightmares. Each nightmare is based on something Peter David did to a comic book character whose ongoing adventures he told.
For instance, Aquaman…

Supergirl…

and the Hulk…

After their initial shock…

Robin goes even further with the meta-joke…

It was a clever way to open up a new ongoing series!






26 Comments
XBen
October 20, 2011 at 4:39 am
Just re-read this issue as a free digital download. Lots of fun.
Joe Rice
October 20, 2011 at 4:58 am
This is one of the problems I have with David’s writing, honestly. The constant wink is gross.
Anonymous
October 20, 2011 at 5:29 am
It was awesome.
Squashua
October 20, 2011 at 5:30 am
Impulse FLASH!
Stephane S.
October 20, 2011 at 5:32 am
Those are some muscular 15-16 year olds.
Joe Rice
October 20, 2011 at 5:45 am
Stephane: Yeah. Nauck’s not a terrible storyteller, but his drafting is gross.
DocOrlando
October 20, 2011 at 6:24 am
They sleep in their costumes? Seriously? On a camping trip?!
peter
October 20, 2011 at 6:31 am
To Joe rice
I agree, a little would go a long way but he goes overboard.
In the robin panel did we really need to heard about a beard to get the joke? too much
chad
October 20, 2011 at 6:44 am
loved batman making a crack about aquaman growing a beard after losing his hand to robin. plus always loved impulse going impulse crush puny humans. nice pick
Drancron
October 20, 2011 at 7:00 am
This just reminds me how much I miss Peter David’s Supergirl.
Collected Editions
October 20, 2011 at 7:28 am
Keep going through Peter David’s Young Justice; it’s full of meta-messages. One in particular that comes to mind is a scene where Impulse and Superboy are complaining about how their favorite comics titles always get cancelled (shortly after the cancellation of both SUPERBOY and IMPULSE); Robin walks in (his series was still going strong) and they give him pointed looks …
Bryesque
October 20, 2011 at 7:28 am
Man, I really loved this book when I was younger – I was 14 when #1 came out. A few friends and I would walk to the comic shop near my high school pretty often to buy issues of this and the other DC teen hero books. I’ve got fond memories of Impulse, Robin, Wonder Girl and Superboy as they were then.
For whatever flaws it had, “Young Justice” was a lot of fun, great for younger readers, and I wish we had more superhero comics like it now.
Thanks for the slice of nostalgia.
Lorrie
October 20, 2011 at 7:28 am
I’m sorry, if you don’t like the original Young Justice, you just don’t like fun period (just like TPTB at DC).
Joe Rice
October 20, 2011 at 7:42 am
Or your idea of fun doesn’t involve smug punsters and inside joke boredom accompanied by ugly art. I love me some fun comics, but Young Justice always made me roll my eyes.
CM Funk
October 20, 2011 at 7:49 am
Peter David is just not funny. Not at all. Not even a little.
Perry
October 20, 2011 at 8:13 am
@Collected Editions:
He already did that one. It’s #18 on the list.
Apodaca
October 20, 2011 at 10:15 am
I’m sorry, but if you don’t like what I like, then you just don’t like fun!
Kabe
October 20, 2011 at 10:38 am
I love YJ, full of jokes and metamessages. Nauck art gets more cartoony but more fitting for the product.
buttler
October 20, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I thought I liked fun, but clearly I was mistaken. I like jokey comics, and I like some Peter David stuff, but I’m just not interested in these characters and could never sustain any interest in this series. What we learn from this is that I hate young people. (Although I do like Runaways and Avengers Academy, which may complicate matters.)
Chris McFeely
October 21, 2011 at 4:39 am
I like an inside joke, but not one that lasts five pages and doesn’t actually mean anything other than to reference the writer’s other work.
ZebedeeDooDah
October 21, 2011 at 11:30 am
This comments section does a pretty good job of demonstrating that humour is subjective, huh?
***Dave
October 21, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Yup. I enjoy Peter David, enjoyed Young Justice, and wish there were more of them collected.
Dick Hobo
November 13, 2011 at 1:05 am
I enjoy Peter, but not David.
Mockingjay
March 12, 2012 at 4:10 pm
The t.v. show on Cartoon Network is way better than that comic! It is like a huge disgrace for this guy to mess up these somewhat cool characters.
Mockingjay
March 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Really… an earing … on Super Boy… what kind of world do we live in… the 90′s… REALLY!!
Mychael Darklighter
July 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm
jesus, he was created in the 90s.
good book. good characters. pipe down.